Masteron and blood work

[Smokescreen]

350 mg a week of masteron is pretty low man... im on 700 mg week of mast and i think the pics show how well its working... no bloodwork yet but i think that theory is ridiculous... i didn't find anything pertaining to that through searches... it may have happened to someone before but to say there is no such thing as masteron out there is just not true...

Yes, but even "low" should've increased DHT by at least 1 or 2 points.

I'm certainly not going to stop using masteron (or whatever the hell it really is) because I like what I get from the stuff which is energy, aggression and strength.

Proviron, however, has increased my DHT levels, as well as my ex-girl.

I just don't like proviron because it tends to bloat me after 5 weeks of use. I'm not the only one this happens to. There are others that have complained of the same thing, even our very own, C.K.



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[JTJT123]

Got blood work done before starting masteron, and then got blood work done 6 weeks into masteron.

Test results showed absolutely no increase in DHT levels whatsoever. Testosterone remained the same level (not like it was going to raise it anyways....I'm just mentioning it). And SHBG remained the same.

Maybe the masteron was fake? If so, then why did it feel like I was on masteron? Why did this one masteron from this well known lab AND source feel like all the other masterons I have used before?

I was more alert, more motivated, more aggressive, more stronger, more harder, and more leaner. But again, DHT and SHBG levels remained the same.

What gives??? So what the hell is really in this stuff called "masteron"? Is it really masteron? Is it really some chemical/drug that all it really does is affect the central nervous system? Perhaps a stim of some sort?

And last thing.....estrogen levels remained the same.




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Interesting post. I'll take a stab at it hoping some of the more well read members will add to it.

First, I'm not surprised that your DHT levels didn't rise because Masteron is a DHT derivative unlike Proviron which is actual DHT (the chemical alteration which is something like 2-methylation makes Masteron more active in muscle tissue than straight DHT) It's like Dbol and Testosterone. Dbol is a testosterone derivative but taking Dbol won't make your Test levels rise. Actually it should make it significantly lower since your body suppresses and eventually shuts down it's own production, which brings me to my next point.

The surprise here is that if you did in fact have legit gear your testosterone levels should not have remained the same unless you were using HCG or HMG to keep your levels elevated. I'm assuming this was a Masteron only cycle or at least a NO-TEST cycle because if you were taking any appreciable dose of Test you would have expected your levels to rise.

As to there being no "real" Masteron this is probably a misunderstanding by people because the original Belgian made Syntax(or something like that) is no longer produced and 99.9 percent of the Masteron comes from UGL's. The only Human Grade Masteron I know of comes from a pharmaceutical company in Thailand(I won't name it because even though it's HG some of the mods might not know it and decide to delete the whole post). Anyway, it comes in pretty little amps and costs more than Primo. As to the UGL Masteron most of us use, I'm sure it wasn't that difficult to find the chemical structure of a compound no longer under patent and make powder. If it was some CNS drug that did what Masteron does-Strength, Aggression, Increased Libido, Intense Erections, & Muscle Hardening that would be awesome. You'd get crazy benefits without messing with your bodies own HPTA. But I'm pretty sure it isn't that at all. I've never heard of a CNS stim that could do any of those things except increase libido and aggression.

As to the estrogen-again no surprise. Masteron doesn't lower estrogen directly. It inhibits the aromatase enzyme so when you use aromatizing steroids like test, eq, or d-bol it competes with the estrogen for binding sites thereby lowering the conversion rate.

 

[Smokescreen]

Interesting post. I'll take a stab at it hoping some of the more well read members will add to it.

First, I'm not surprised that your DHT levels didn't rise because Masteron is a DHT derivative unlike Proviron which is actual DHT (the chemical alteration which is something like 2-methylation makes Masteron more active in muscle tissue than straight DHT) It's like Dbol and Testosterone. Dbol is a testosterone derivative but taking Dbol won't make your Test levels rise. Actually it should make it significantly lower since your body suppresses and eventually shuts down it's own production, which brings me to my next point.

The surprise here is that if you did in fact have legit gear your testosterone levels should not have remained the same unless you were using HCG or HMG to keep your levels elevated. I'm assuming this was a Masteron only cycle or at least a NO-TEST cycle because if you were taking any appreciable dose of Test you would have expected your levels to rise.

As to there being no "real" Masteron this is probably a misunderstanding by people because the original Belgian made Syntax(or something like that) is no longer produced and 99.9 percent of the Masteron comes from UGL's. The only Human Grade Masteron I know of comes from a pharmaceutical company in Thailand(I won't name it because even though it's HG some of the mods might not know it and decide to delete the whole post). Anyway, it comes in pretty little amps and costs more than Primo. As to the UGL Masteron most of us use, I'm sure it wasn't that difficult to find the chemical structure of a compound no longer under patent and make powder. If it was some CNS drug that did what Masteron does-Strength, Aggression, Increased Libido, Intense Erections, & Muscle Hardening that would be awesome. You'd get crazy benefits without messing with your bodies own HPTA. But I'm pretty sure it isn't that at all. I've never heard of a CNS stim that could do any of those things except increase libido and aggression.

As to the estrogen-again no surprise. Masteron doesn't lower estrogen directly. It inhibits the aromatase enzyme so when you use aromatizing steroids like test, eq, or d-bol it competes with the estrogen for binding sites thereby lowering the conversion rate.

I was taking testosterone as well....as usual. I'm on TRT for life.

As for the estrogen. Estrogen remained the same shit. Before AND after masteron. That's all I'm going to say about that.

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[Gunslinger007]

I just don't like proviron because it tends to bloat me after 5 weeks of use. I'm not the only one this happens to. There are others that have complained of the same thing, even our very own, C.K.

You sure it was real Proviron? I have mega-dosed the shit, up to 300mg/day, and have run it continuously for up to 5 months, never had anything but hardening, libido increase, a little acne, and itchy scalp/mild hairloss (this was corrected with RegenePure shampoo). I have a hard time believing real Mesterolone could ever cause one to retain water. I suppose anything is possible, but I would suspect the legitimacy of the hormone first.

 

[Smokescreen]

You sure it was real Proviron? I have mega-dosed the shit, up to 300mg/day, and have run it continuously for up to 5 months, never had anything but hardening, libido increase, a little acne, and itchy scalp/mild hairloss (this was corrected with RegenePure shampoo). I have a hard time believing real Mesterolone could ever cause one to retain water. I suppose anything is possible, but I would suspect the legitimacy of the hormone first.

Bayer provirons from Costco that someone gets for me over at California. Real Deal.

I can find the comment that C.K. said about proviron as well if you don't believe me. Let me know. Kind of sad that I have to go down to that level, but ill do it for you.

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[Gunslinger007]

No, I believe you. If it's Bayer, you can't get more legit than that. But hearing that Proviron causes bloat is like hearing that 3 grams of Test a week swells your balls up and jacks your sperm count. Bizarre.

 

[Smokescreen]

No, I believe you. If it's Bayer, you can't get more legit than that. But hearing that Proviron causes bloat is like hearing that 3 grams of Test a week swells your balls up and jacks your sperm count. Bizarre.

Starts off really nice for the first 3 or so weeks. Then the very first thing I begin to notice is lumps in my nips. 2 weeks after dropping the proviron, the lumps go away. Now, if I stay on for past 3 or 4 weeks, what was once hard and lean now becomes soft and bloated.

Funny because my ex girl would just get leaner and leaner and leaner as the weeks would go on. Me? Id poop out with bloatness after 3 or 4 weeks. It really depends on how much I use. The bloatness kicks in fast if I go full 100mgs per day.

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[Nelson Montana]

Interesting post. I'll take a stab at it hoping some of the more well read members will add to it.

First, I'm not surprised that your DHT levels didn't rise because Masteron is a DHT derivative unlike Proviron which is actual DHT (the chemical alteration which is something like 2-methylation makes Masteron more active in muscle tissue than straight DHT) It's like Dbol and Testosterone. Dbol is a testosterone derivative but taking Dbol won't make your Test levels rise. Actually it should make it significantly lower since your body suppresses and eventually shuts down it's own production, which brings me to my next point.

The surprise here is that if you did in fact have legit gear your testosterone levels should not have remained the same unless you were using HCG or HMG to keep your levels elevated. I'm assuming this was a Masteron only cycle or at least a NO-TEST cycle because if you were taking any appreciable dose of Test you would have expected your levels to rise.

As to there being no "real" Masteron this is probably a misunderstanding by people because the original Belgian made Syntax(or something like that) is no longer produced and 99.9 percent of the Masteron comes from UGL's. The only Human Grade Masteron I know of comes from a pharmaceutical company in Thailand(I won't name it because even though it's HG some of the mods might not know it and decide to delete the whole post). Anyway, it comes in pretty little amps and costs more than Primo. As to the UGL Masteron most of us use, I'm sure it wasn't that difficult to find the chemical structure of a compound no longer under patent and make powder. If it was some CNS drug that did what Masteron does-Strength, Aggression, Increased Libido, Intense Erections, & Muscle Hardening that would be awesome. You'd get crazy benefits without messing with your bodies own HPTA. But I'm pretty sure it isn't that at all. I've never heard of a CNS stim that could do any of those things except increase libido and aggression.

As to the estrogen-again no surprise. Masteron doesn't lower estrogen directly. It inhibits the aromatase enzyme so when you use aromatizing steroids like test, eq, or d-bol it competes with the estrogen for binding sites thereby lowering the conversion rate.

Beat me to it. Was just going to post it. This is correct. Good job.