Mass and Strength

[LiftinHeavyAssWeight]

Hey what's going on Elite Fitness. I am here to get some advice, critique, ass chewing, whatever it may be on a cycle I would like to run. I really don't have a steroid guru, or other friend that juices to turn to, so most of my knowledge comes from research done on the internet and forums like this. Thought I would actually create an account and get some personalized thought about what I would like to do.
A little about myself. I am 32 years old, a former college football player turned power lifter. I stand in at 5'8, 210 pounds, somewhere around 15% body fat, maybe a little more maybe a little less. My goal is strength and size, being or getting lean is not my style.
In the past I have ran oral only cycles with dbol, anadrol, and mdrol. All by themselves. Have also ran test only cycles, test and an oral kicker, test stacked with deca and an oral, test stacked with primo and an oral. For this cycle I would like to incorporate a everything together. Anadrol was my favorite oral I have used so that is what I want to use in the stack. Then add in test, deca, and primo. Also, I am on TRT so there is no need for a real PCT for me.. so I guess this is more of a Blast then a cycle. This is what I have planned, if you would recommend something different or a change, please let me know.

Cycle
1-15 Test Cyp 200 mg per week
1-15 Deca 400 mg per week
1-15 Primo 400 mg per week
1-4 Anadrol 50 mg per day

Cycle Support
1-15 caber .5 mg e3d
1-15 .25 mg adex eod

Liver Support
1-6 N-AC
1-6 Liv-52

 

[Nelson Montana]

400 mgs of deca and 50 mgs of drol -- expect to be bloated as all hell.

Mandatory -- N2GUARD and HCGen while one. UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE while of. The Liv 52 and NAC is good too. Follow with BRIDGE. WIth only 200 mgs of T, you may not need any AI but I think it's a good idea to have some dex on hand.

 

[dylangemelli]

i don't like the layout at all... like nelson just said, you are going to a bloated disaster, with nasty sides and feeling like absolute shit... why in the world would you want to run that type of cycle and then waste primo in that way? why not run primo and eq?

 

[LiftinHeavyAssWeight]

Well I do not feel that is at all true for me. I have stacked test, deca, and anadrol in the past and loved it. I put on a good amount of water but a long with that came a great deal of strength. Size and Strength are the primary things that I am looking for. Besides the access water, I did not experience any side effects worth noting or worrying about. And why would running primo be a waste? The quality gains made will still be there in the end, yes? I don't see any reason to use hcgenerate but I will look into n2guard.
I have considered running EQ, but I do not like the idea of putting something in my body that is not intended for humans.
Thanks for the replies so far.

 

[NegroPops]

I would switch out the anadrol for dbol. Think doing that will add to the quality of your gains. I think test, deca, primo, and dbol is basically what Arnold ran back in the day.. or at least that's how the story goes.

 

[dylangemelli]

your running all those bloating compounds and not seeing primo really work... but you would know better than me apparently so go ahead...

 

[LiftinHeavyAssWeight]

By the look of the pic of your avatar I can tell that me and you have a different way of training and goal, so we may not see eye to eye on some things. I was simply trying to explain that I have had success with stacking these compounds in the past, and I see the added water as a benefit more then a side effect. But I also understand that when the cycle is over with, I will not maintain the same size and some strength will drop off because of the loss of the water. That is why I wanted to run primo with this stack for the good quality gains that come with it, that will still be there after the water subsides. I meant no disrespect.

 

[NegroPops]

I think you could go with a cycle like this, which would keep the water down.. but you would still get massive gains in strength and size.

1-10 Test Cyp 200/week
1-10 NPP 100 mg/eod
1-10 Primo 100 mg/eod
1-4 D-bol 40 mg/day

 

[buddhabuilder]

When you state, "getting lean is not my life style.", is this code for, "I drink beer"?

 

[LiftinHeavyAssWeight]

Well I know that NPP is a shorter ester version of deca/nandrolone but I have never ran that. I was basing this cycle/blast on what I have ran in the past with success. I guess it is time for me to open up my eyes to something else maybe? I like the cycle you laid out, although I would still like to run the cycle between 12 and 16 weeks.

Being lean is not my style simply refers to the fact that I enjoy being a tad bit larger. I prefer mass and strength over aesthetics. Just a personal preference.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I would switch out the anadrol for dbol. Think doing that will add to the quality of your gains. I think test, deca, primo, and dbol is basically what Arnold ran back in the day.. or at least that's how the story goes.

Actually just dbol and primo. No deca. And yes, primo and dbol is a sweet combo. The best oral with the best injectable IMO. Simple and effective.

 

[NegroPops]

Tren > Primo

 

[BEAST420]

But apparently primo has no sides and Tren sides can be terrible for some...

 

[NegroPops]

Primo has no sides except the ungodly PIP, and since it is only dosed at 100 mg/ml.. that means a lot of shots and a lot of pain.

Trens side effects are literally outweighed by how much weight you can put up while on it.

 

[MattJS]

I second Dbol being a better choice than Anadrol if you have the option to switch....
Dbol= Cheap effective very little sides apart from estro and it makes you feel good
Anadrol= More expensive less effective plenty of sides makes you feel like shit

 

[MattJS]

Tren does have side effects but to be honest for me Anadrol was a lot worse... With tren you get incredible results with the side effects, with anadrol you get incredible side effects with the results...

Don't get me wrong I'm not suggesting anyone start running tren every cycle, its a harsh AAS and needs to be used sparingly, but for me it has a place and I'll definitely use it from time to time, I can't say the same for drol though...

As for primo haven't tried it yet I'm hoping to start in the next week or so, but I like the idea of being on something where I don't have to worry about taking more drugs to manage the side effects and can just concentrate on making steady gains....

 

[BEAST420]

Agreed dog , deff using primo before I give Tren a run... My next cycle will prob be test ,primo, anavar back end and dbol kicker..

But yea I can't talk much on eithor since have not run them.. Just can talk from what iv read (which is a lot)