Married with Children? You're amongst the elite in America.

[heatherrae]

No. I never said I did.
Public education is too liberal. Teaching about marriage and parenting would only make the problem worse as it would be entirely political correctness.

Money is the biggest cause of divorce? I disagree. Despite what CNN might have told you I do not know any of my divorced friends in their situation due to money. I'd opt to say there are numerous causes for divorce but it's more about selfishness, incompatibilty, and spoiled people inable to compromise.

Regardless the causes, throwing MORE money at public education is going to do nothing to remedy the problem of divorce.

Adequately funding education isn't about preventing divorce it is about having and educated populace, which has been one of the major reasons why america was such a great country.

 

[Frisky]

Agreed.

If the parents are worthless then it's probable their kids will be too.

A healthy stable parental environment (i.e. marriage) will cause the kid to want to suceed and achieve whereas deadbeat parents will surely cause the opposite.

Throwing more of my tax money at shitty education isn't going to change a thing. Last time I checked they did not teach much on marriage & parenting at public schools. If anything they are teaching the opposite with all the liberal PC crap.

all right mr blow up doll man... LOL

I love the 'healthy stable parental environment' ... hahahaha. but then again, you got the 'dead beat parents (plural) correct. At least you have not cast a stone on a specific gender ... I respect that.

Now, do you actually realize exactly what your tax money is being used for? Sure the hell isn't to help with education like it should be. And please tell me you are NOT serious when you say that giving more to education would not better our community, state, country... (I should slap you)

I for one do not have the money to send my kids to private schools, nor the money to take away from my work to home school so they are forced into public education. I pay my taxes just like the next... yet the education that I can afford is sub par to Mr 6figure income.

I've known and still do know peers whom came from a very disrupt home... dead beat family, was told they would amount to nothing... cast aside. And they proved all of that wrong. One of which is a very sucessful attorney, one whom right now owns a multi million dollar company...

So ... let me shorten this up for you... STFU already... oh... and make me a sammich bitch

 

[Bikini Mod]

all right mr blow up doll man... LOL

I love the 'healthy stable parental environment' ... hahahaha. but then again, you got the 'dead beat parents (plural) correct. At least you have not cast a stone on a specific gender ... I respect that.

Now, do you actually realize exactly what your tax money is being used for? Sure the hell isn't to help with education like it should be. And please tell me you are NOT serious when you say that giving more to education would not better our community, state, country... (I should slap you)

I for one do not have the money to send my kids to private schools, nor the money to take away from my work to home school so they are forced into public education. I pay my taxes just like the next... yet the education that I can afford is sub par to Mr 6figure income.

I've known and still do know peers whom came from a very disrupt home... dead beat family, was told they would amount to nothing... cast aside. And they proved all of that wrong. One of which is a very sucessful attorney, one whom right now owns a multi million dollar company...

So ... let me shorten this up for you... STFU already... oh... and make me a sammich bitch

BEST POST ON THIS THREAD.

 

[alien amp pharm]

Adequately funding education isn't about preventing divorce it is about having and educated populace, which has been one of the major reasons why america was such a great country.

Yes, but we somehow got off on the tangent of how a high education equals less divorce and how we should also throw more money at education.

I disagree with both.

 

[heatherrae]

all right mr blow up doll man... LOL

I love the 'healthy stable parental environment' ... hahahaha. but then again, you got the 'dead beat parents (plural) correct. At least you have not cast a stone on a specific gender ... I respect that.

Now, do you actually realize exactly what your tax money is being used for? Sure the hell isn't to help with education like it should be. And please tell me you are NOT serious when you say that giving more to education would not better our community, state, country... (I should slap you)

I for one do not have the money to send my kids to private schools, nor the money to take away from my work to home school so they are forced into public education. I pay my taxes just like the next... yet the education that I can afford is sub par to Mr 6figure income.

I've known and still do know peers whom came from a very disrupt home... dead beat family, was told they would amount to nothing... cast aside. And they proved all of that wrong. One of which is a very sucessful attorney, one whom right now owns a multi million dollar company...

So ... let me shorten this up for you... STFU already... oh... and make me a sammich bitch

 

[-SD-]

No. I never said I did.
Public education is too liberal. Teaching about marriage and parenting would only make the problem worse as it would be entirely political correctness.

Money is the biggest cause of divorce? I disagree. Despite what CNN might have told you I do not know any of my divorced friends in their situation due to money. I'd opt to say there are numerous causes for divorce but it's more about selfishness, incompatibilty, and spoiled people inable to compromise.

Regardless the causes, throwing MORE money at public education is going to do nothing to remedy the problem of divorce.

Im probably using outdated information but at some point money was considered the biggest cause of divorce but regardless its still a good idea to teach financial literacy in high school because if we have couples who manage money better that contributes to a happier marriage, according to the premise of the original post.

 

[Frisky]

Yes, but we somehow got off on the tangent of how a high education equals less divorce and how we should also throw more money at education.

I disagree with both.

higher education will not = less divorce, but will help our society as a whole. America has the worse education... espically the corrupt south. Our technology is sub-par other places...

More money SHOULD be thrown at education instead of the poverty of other countries/ and war. The mind is a very powerful thing... its sad that the fall of our public school system, the non support of it, and the non willingness of people like you to try to better it... has our economy so damn lazy and stupid.

It is really easier to go be a crack head and collect SS though... Lets not educate our children, our new generation... allow them to follow a trend that we are indeed as a whole teaching them... that its ok to not excel in our studies, its ok that we are put in a catagory due to situations in which we as children can not change. You should run for President...

did you fix my sammich?

 

[heatherrae]

higher education will not = less divorce, but will help our society as a whole. America has the worse education... espically the corrupt south. Our technology is sub-par other places...

More money SHOULD be thrown at education instead of the poverty of other countries/ and war. The mind is a very powerful thing... its sad that the fall of our public school system, the non support of it, and the non willingness of people like you to try to better it... has our economy so damn lazy and stupid.

It is really easier to go be a crack head and collect SS though... Lets not educate our children, our new generation... allow them to follow a trend that we are indeed as a whole teaching them... that its ok to not excel in our studies, its ok that we are put in a catagory due to situations in which we as children can not change. You should run for President...

did you fix my sammich?

PWND by Friskers.

 

[alien amp pharm]

I've known and still do know peers whom came from a very disrupt home... dead beat family, was told they would amount to nothing... cast aside. And they proved all of that wrong. One of which is a very sucessful attorney, one whom right now owns a multi million dollar company...

Big fucking deal! For every one person you know in the situation you described above there are probably 1000 who don't amount to anything.

I stand by my statement "If the parents are worthless than it's probable their kids will be too".

Teaching kids about divorce and marriage (the original subject of this thread) happens at home. Not in public schools or on tv. It's as simple as that.

So take yourself and your little princess females on here and go do my laundry.

 

[-SD-]

lol@corrupt south. You obviously havent seen places like LA Unified or Oakland Public or Chicago Public, Detroit, DC, ETC ETC

 

[alien amp pharm]

higher education will not = less divorce, but will help our society as a whole. America has the worse education... espically the corrupt south. Our technology is sub-par other places...

More money SHOULD be thrown at education instead of the poverty of other countries/ and war. The mind is a very powerful thing... its sad that the fall of our public school system, the non support of it, and the non willingness of people like you to try to better it... has our economy so damn lazy and stupid.

It is really easier to go be a crack head and collect SS though... Lets not educate our children, our new generation... allow them to follow a trend that we are indeed as a whole teaching them... that its ok to not excel in our studies, its ok that we are put in a catagory due to situations in which we as children can not change. You should run for President...

did you fix my sammich?

Fix the problem with public schools at hand then.
Geez you're worse than government officials who blow money, end up in debt, then resort to raising taxes to fix your self-created problems.

What is lacking at your current public schools? Perhaps you should move if it's that bad there.

 

[heatherrae]

Im probably using outdated information but at some point money was considered the biggest cause of divorce but regardless its still a good idea to teach financial literacy in high school because if we have couples who manage money better that contributes to a happier marriage, according to the premise of the original post.

You're information isn't outdated. Financial distress is cited year after year of being the number one cause of divorce.

 

[heatherrae]

Big fucking deal! For every one person you know in the situation you described above there are probably 1000 who don't amount to anything.

I stand by my statement "If the parents are worthless than it's probable their kids will be too".

Teaching kids about divorce and marriage (the original subject of this thread) happens at home. Not in public schools or on tv. It's as simple as that.

So take yourself and your little princess females on here and go do my laundry.

Does the sun get in your eyes up there in that ivory tower of yours?

 

[Frisky]

Big fucking deal! For every one person you know in the situation you described above there are probably 1000 who don't amount to anything.

I stand by my statement "If the parents are worthless than it's probable their kids will be too".

Teaching kids about divorce and marriage (the original subject of this thread) happens at home. Not in public schools or on tv. It's as simple as that.

So take yourself and your little princess females on here and go do my laundry.

I love you.... still I do, but you suck at the whole education thingy. I just thanked the heavens above that you will soon be sterile. LOL

 

[Frisky]

Fix the problem with public schools at hand then.
Geez you're worse than government officials who blow money, end up in debt, then resort to raising taxes to fix your self-created problems.

What is lacking at your current public schools? Perhaps you should move if it's that bad there.

the lacking part is the state funds to provide better pay for our teachers, better and more up to date school books... lots of things are lacking.

Oh and btw... I just moved into a really amazing subdivision, My kids are currently on hardship to the best school in my area.

AND.... I wouldn't consider bettering our education system blowing money... LOL dipshit

(can i move in with you? )

 

[Frisky]

lol@corrupt south. You obviously havent seen places like LA Unified or Oakland Public or Chicago Public, Detroit, DC, ETC ETC

No I haven't.... its corrupt enough here for me.

 

[alien amp pharm]

You're information isn't outdated. Financial distress is cited year after year of being the number one cause of divorce.

Did someone doing a few random questionaires tell you that?

Oh lookie! Here is one that disagrees with you!

"While money is reportedly the number one argument between a couple, it is unknown if this is actually the number one cause for divorce. Again, this is because the generalized incompatibility grounds would cover a reason for divorce based on money issues. " ..........."it is safe to say that of all the possible causes of divorce, incompatibility is the number one reason people file."
http://www.causesof.org/causes-of-divorce.php

and another!

"When the vows break, don't blame it on financial problems. Money is not the number one cause of divorce, says a researcher at California State University, Sacramento.
Contrary to popular belief, there's no evidence that money issues are the major factor when marriages break up"
http://www.csus.edu/news/101701moneydivorce.htm

and yet another!

"Also, 62% of ex-wives and ex-husbands answered "yes" to the question, " do you wish your ex-spouse had worked harder to save the marriage?" These findings (along with "lack of commitment" being the number one reason given for divorce) run counter to the conventional wisdom that most divorces only happen after both spouses have done their best to save the marriage."
http://www.divorcereform.org/cau.html

 

[Frisky]

Did someone doing a few random questionaires tell you that?

Oh lookie! Here is one that disagrees with you!

"While money is reportedly the number one argument between a couple, it is unknown if this is actually the number one cause for divorce. Again, this is because the generalized incompatibility grounds would cover a reason for divorce based on money issues. " ..........."it is safe to say that of all the possible causes of divorce, incompatibility is the number one reason people file."
http://www.causesof.org/causes-of-divorce.php

and another!

"When the vows break, don't blame it on financial problems. Money is not the number one cause of divorce, says a researcher at California State University, Sacramento.
Contrary to popular belief, there's no evidence that money issues are the major factor when marriages break up"
http://www.csus.edu/news/101701moneydivorce.htm

and yet another!

"Also, 62% of ex-wives and ex-husbands answered "yes" to the question, " do you wish your ex-spouse had worked harder to save the marriage?" These findings (along with "lack of commitment" being the number one reason given for divorce) run counter to the conventional wisdom that most divorces only happen after both spouses have done their best to save the marriage."
http://www.divorcereform.org/cau.html

did it also list the fact that you really suck at sex? Cause, thats what betty told me.

MUAH!

 

[alien amp pharm]

Does the sun get in your eyes up there in that ivory tower of yours?

How is stating a common sense fact being considered looking down on people?

By basically saying that parents should not be worthless? Why would I applaud worthless parents?

 

[heatherrae]

Did someone doing a few random questionaires tell you that?

Oh lookie! Here is one that disagrees with you!

"While money is reportedly the number one argument between a couple, it is unknown if this is actually the number one cause for divorce. Again, this is because the generalized incompatibility grounds would cover a reason for divorce based on money issues. " ..........."it is safe to say that of all the possible causes of divorce, incompatibility is the number one reason people file."
http://www.causesof.org/causes-of-divorce.php

and another!

"When the vows break, don't blame it on financial problems. Money is not the number one cause of divorce, says a researcher at California State University, Sacramento.
Contrary to popular belief, there's no evidence that money issues are the major factor when marriages break up"
http://www.csus.edu/news/101701moneydivorce.htm

and yet another!

"Also, 62% of ex-wives and ex-husbands answered "yes" to the question, " do you wish your ex-spouse had worked harder to save the marriage?" These findings (along with "lack of commitment" being the number one reason given for divorce) run counter to the conventional wisdom that most divorces only happen after both spouses have done their best to save the marriage."
http://www.divorcereform.org/cau.html

Whoopie, you found 3 articles stating different interpretations for the results to the well known statistical results of 1000's of polls stating that financial reasons are the number one reasons for divorce.

 

[heatherrae]

How is stating a common sense fact being considered looking down on people?

By basically saying that parents should not be worthless? Why would I applaud worthless parents?

It isn't that you are calling the parents worthless, it is that you are calling the CHILDREN worthless and hopeless by saying that they will end up just like their parents and thus don't deserve an education.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Did someone doing a few random questionaires tell you that?

Oh lookie! Here is one that disagrees with you!

"While money is reportedly the number one argument between a couple, it is unknown if this is actually the number one cause for divorce. Again, this is because the generalized incompatibility grounds would cover a reason for divorce based on money issues. " ..........."it is safe to say that of all the possible causes of divorce, incompatibility is the number one reason people file."
http://www.causesof.org/causes-of-divorce.php

and another!

"When the vows break, don't blame it on financial problems. Money is not the number one cause of divorce, says a researcher at California State University, Sacramento.
Contrary to popular belief, there's no evidence that money issues are the major factor when marriages break up"
http://www.csus.edu/news/101701moneydivorce.htm

and yet another!

"Also, 62% of ex-wives and ex-husbands answered "yes" to the question, " do you wish your ex-spouse had worked harder to save the marriage?" These findings (along with "lack of commitment" being the number one reason given for divorce) run counter to the conventional wisdom that most divorces only happen after both spouses have done their best to save the marriage."
http://www.divorcereform.org/cau.html

Ummm she was a practicing family law attorney so I think she knows what she is talking about, not because of what she read on the net.

And secondly while I do agree that children have a better chance at becoming a productives member of society if they are raised in a home with two loving parents who can provide benefit to them, but then again, it also goes the other way.... does it not?

YOU OF ALL PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW THIS.

I am not making a personal attack, but only stating the obvious.

 

[mrplunkey]

good God, help us. Deliver us from another MrPlunkey "fuck the poor" tirade.

You go girl! It's you against the world.

You know all these guys secretly want you. That's the only reason they gang-up on you and your baby.

You're probably the only rational, level-headed person here.

Either that or you are just a flake who is desperate for attention and can't get it from the real world.

Come to think about it, I'm gonna go with that theory.

 

[heatherrae]

You go girl! It's you against the world.

You know all these guys secretly want you. That's the only reason they gang-up on you and your baby.

You're probably the only rational, level-headed person here.

Either that or you are just a flake who is desperate for attention and can't get it from the real world.

Come to think about it, I'm gonna go with that theory.

LOL...you're such an idiot. 99% of the people here like me. The only ones I scuffle with are the holier than thou nazi types like you.

 

[Bikini Mod]

You go girl! It's you against the world.

You know all these guys secretly want you. That's the only reason they gang-up on you and your baby.

You're probably the only rational, level-headed person here.

I changed what I said before - THIS was the best post on this thread.

Shows true character. We at elite have come to expect nothing less.

 

[alien amp pharm]

Whoopie, you found 3 articles stating different interpretations for the results to the well known statistical results of 1000's of polls stating that financial reasons are the number one reasons for divorce.

It just shows how you shouldn't believe everthing you hear and also how you can never admit when you are wrong.

FYI all 3 of those were on the main page of google search. I didn't even make it past the first page of search results.

None of the people in my life who have divorced were due to financial reasons. It was always due to incompatibility and adultery.

 

[Bikini Mod]

It just shows how you shouldn't believe everthing you hear and also how you can never admit when you are wrong.

FYI all 3 of those were on the main page of google search. I didn't even make it past the first page of search results.

None of the people in my life who have divorced were due to financial reasons. It was always due to incompatibility and adultery.

Que?

She practised family law. You used google.

Funny of the women that I knew who divorced they all said it was because their husband's were controlling jerks. My husband divorced the wives he had before because they cheated.

We all get to be right. LOL

 

[heatherrae]

It just shows how you shouldn't believe everthing you hear and also how you can never admit when you are wrong.

FYI all 3 of those were on the main page of google search. I didn't even make it past the first page of search results.

None of the people in my life who have divorced were due to financial reasons. It was always due to incompatibility and adultery.

statistically speaking, the number one reason stated when polling divorcing couples is "financial problems." 1000's of polls, year after year. Now, you found 3 articles where they want to interpret those results to mean something else. Big deal. I bet I can go on the internet right now and find three articles that say that the moon landing was faked. If you had ever been in a marraige and had any experience with financial pressures, you may have some perspective on this.

 

[alien amp pharm]

It isn't that you are calling the parents worthless, it is that you are calling the CHILDREN worthless and hopeless by saying that they will end up just like their parents and thus don't deserve an education.

would you be better pleased if I worded it differently?

"Parents who fail at marriage and life due to circumstances which they CAN controll will TEND to pass their behaviors onto their children whom are being exposed to it throughout maturing. In turn the chances of the children to succeed in life are reduced, but not diminshed"

Is that more PC for you?

Oh plus I never said they didn't deserve an education. There you go lying about what people said YET AGAIN.

 

[alien amp pharm]

Well as much as I've enjoyed all this, I have work to do.

Besides there will never be a conclusion to this thread with all the know-it-all women posting.

No wonder your marriages fail.

 

[heatherrae]

would you be better pleased if I worded it differently?

"Parents who fail at marriage and life due to circumstances which they CAN controll will TEND to pass their behaviors onto their children whom are being exposed to it throughout maturing. In turn the chances of the children to succeed in life are reduced, but not diminshed"

Is that more PC for you?

How can something be "reduced" but not "diminished." Oh well, incoherence aside, that isn't the argument that you made before.

First of all, just because someone's marraige fails, doesn't make them a failure at life or a bad parent. There are terrible married parents and great ones. There are terrible unmarried parents and great ones.

Secondly, that is a completely different argument than you made before. You said before that the parents are worthless and it is most probable that their children will be too so that there is no need in even trying to educate these children.

So, who all doesn't get an education and should just stay home? Is it kids of divorced parents, kids of single parents, kids whose parents are on public assistance, kids whose parents are in jail? Which ones are the worthless ones that don't get a chance at education?

 

[Bikini Mod]

Well as much as I've enjoyed all this, I have work to do.

Besides there will never be a conclusion to this thread with all the know-it-all women posting.

No wonder your marriages fail.

*cough* I am ECSTATICALLY happily married to a wonderful loving man that dotes on me night and day, a man who my children dont want to call stepfather. A man that they have volunteered they cant wait to call, "Daddy." ... that is the three who their spermdonor hasnt managed to destroy yet by making them his girlfriend.


Words of wisdom from a man who has never been married, one who never wants to BE married.

I think he is smarter than everyone else posting in this thread because he has found the only sure-fire way to eliminate divorce.

Now I have to run too... I get tired out from doing nothing all day.

 

[heatherrae]

Well as much as I've enjoyed all this, I have work to do.

Besides there will never be a conclusion to this thread with all the know-it-all women posting.

No wonder your marriages fail.

LOL...coming from a man who has never even been married. You're the expert though...lol.

 

[alien amp pharm]

How can something be "reduced" but not "diminished." Oh well, incoherence aside, that isn't the argument that you made before.

First of all, just because someone's marraige fails, doesn't make them a failure at life or a bad parent. There are terrible married parents and great ones. There are terrible unmarried parents and great ones.

Secondly, that is a completely different argument than you made before. You said before that the parents are worthless and it is most probable that their children will be too so that there is no need in even trying to educate these children.

So, who all doesn't get an education and should just stay home? Is it kids of divorced parents, kids of single parents, kids whose parents are on public assistance, kids whose parents are in jail? Which ones are the worthless ones that don't get a chance at education?

Hey dumbass, where did I say children shouldn't receive an education?

I said throwing MORE money at education is not the answer, but as usual you make shit up to try and win a losing argument.

 

[Bikini Mod]

How can something be "reduced" but not "diminished." Oh well, incoherence aside, that isn't the argument that you made before.

First of all, just because someone's marraige fails, doesn't make them a failure at life or a bad parent. There are terrible married parents and great ones. There are terrible unmarried parents and great ones.

Secondly, that is a completely different argument than you made before. You said before that the parents are worthless and it is most probable that their children will be too so that there is no need in even trying to educate these children.

So, who all doesn't get an education and should just stay home? Is it kids of divorced parents, kids of single parents, kids whose parents are on public assistance, kids whose parents are in jail? Which ones are the worthless ones that don't get a chance at education?

Only the females are too worthless to get an education. I mean afterall, they are the root of all evil..... aren't they?

 

[alien amp pharm]

LOL...coming from a man who has never even been married. You're the expert though...lol.

LOL...coming from a woman who is too much of a know-it-all princess to make any marriage last. You're the real expert I'm sure...lol

 

[heatherrae]

LOL...coming from a woman who is too much of a know-it-all princess to make any marriage last. You're the real expert I'm sure...lol

LOL....you have no idea why or why not my marraige didn't last, but it had nothing to do with anyone being a know-it-all or a princess. My ex hubbie and I are still great friends and would jump through a fire for each other. I consider that a pretty successful relationship that we are steadfast freinds despite the fact that we don't have to keep in touch and have no children together.

LOL...if you can't win on the issues, bring out the fact that I've had a divorce or that I'm pregnant. Last time you tried to drag out that I got pregnant to get money and that I didn't work. LOL...keep guessing until you hit some nerve. You can't win on the issues so attack the person.

 

[alien amp pharm]

I get tired out from doing nothing all day.

I would expect nothing different from you in life

 

[mrplunkey]

LOL...you're such an idiot. 99% of the people here like me. The only ones I scuffle with are the holier than thou nazi types like you.

Is your "like" level at 99% before or after you do one of your "sorry I've been such a flake" threads?

 

[heatherrae]

Is your "like" level at 99% before or after you do one of your "sorry I've been such a flake" threads?

I at least recognize and apologize when I have been a flake.

Some people (ahem) are entirely oblivious...lol.

 

[mrplunkey]

I at least recognize and apologize when I have been a flake.

Some people (ahem) are entirely oblivious...lol.

Then you should probably get started apologizing on this thread too.

 

[heatherrae]

Okay, I'm sorry that Longhorn is such an enormous hypocrite on this thread.

I'm sorry that MrPlunkey is a bloated, pompous, elitist snob with no compassion for his fellow man.

I'm sorry aap is still in that young and dumb know-it-all phase and hasn't yet experienced marraige or divorce to have a relevant opinion of it.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

Give it up for Al Bundy and the rest of his rag tag family. I love that show.... Oh wait this is about something else?

 

[txbondsman]

man, I can't leave yall kids alone for one day! I feel like yall are going to start the finger pointing and blame the spilled kool aid on the other one. gezzzzz

BTW, I'm an unmarried Dad, and proud of it. Best thing that ever happen to me....

 

[heatherrae]

man, I can't leave yall kids alone for one day! I feel like yall are going to start the finger pointing and blame the spilled kool aid on the other one. gezzzzz

BTW, I'm an unmarried Dad, and proud of it. Best thing that ever happen to me....

lol...you marraige destroyer you. ;-)

 

[txbondsman]

lol...you marraige destroyer you. ;-)

I don't do married women any more, too many close calls. But I'd risk it agin if you were! This Cyp, EQ and proviron have me ready to try and hurt some strange about now.

 

[heatherrae]

I don't do married women any more, too many close calls. But I'd risk it agin if you were! This Cyp, EQ and proviron have me ready to try and hurt some strange about now.

LOL...I think we have to get married first texas. According to the thread starter, if we don't get married first, we will cause other people to get a divorce. They will see our blatant and happily single promiscuity and want to divorce and get them some. ;-)

 

[AAP]

You *guys* have been pwned beyond belief on this thread.

 

[-SD-]

You *guys* have been pwned beyond belief on this thread.

I didnt dip my wick too deep.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I would expect nothing different from you in life

LOL

Just because I dont tell YOU what I am doing... I will have you know that after I got my hubby's new Harley (since he got me a jag for Valentine's how could I get him anything less for his birthday) all squared away, I put an offer on our new bigass home. After we have some chow and a few drinks we will then go to our little apartment where I will fuck his brains out.




I will go back to my golddigging ways.

Shit, my husband didnt have ANY MONEY when I married him.

Fuck, I failed at that too.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Give it up for Al Bundy and the rest of his rag tag family. I love that show.... Oh wait this is about something else?

This thread just keeps gettin better.

Now THIS is the ABSOLUTE BEST POST on this thread... period.

 

[Bikini Mod]

You *guys* have been pwned beyond belief on this thread.

As if your gay ass would even know.

 

[heatherrae]

LOL

Just because I dont tell YOU what I am doing... I will have you know that after I got my hubby's new Harley (since he got me a jag for Valentine's how could I get him anything less for his birthday) all squared away, I put an offer on our new bigass home. After we have some chow and a few drinks we will then go to our little apartment where I will fuck his brains out.




I will go back to my golddigging ways.

Shit, my husband didnt have ANY MONEY when I married him.

Fuck, I failed at that too.

If you find another one just like him, hook a sister up. lol.

 

[Bikini Mod]

If you find another one just like him, hook a sister up. lol.

There is only ONE like my old grump (thank goodness LOL) but I will be happy to send you an autographed copy of my book (fuck, I really HAVE been working) to help you find one for your very own.... or actually, let HIM FIND YOU.

 

[AAP]

As if your gay ass would even know.

One thing I know about marriage is the men in them suck cock like nothing else. Straight men give the best blowjobs.

 

[-SD-]

If you find another one just like him, hook a sister up. lol.

this should illicit many a reply.

 

[Bikini Mod]

One thing I know about marriage is the men in them suck cock like nothing else. Straight men give the best blowjobs.

DO TELL!!

 

[heatherrae]

One thing I know about marriage is the men in them suck cock like nothing else. Straight men give the best blowjobs.

Well they sure as heck don't lick the best kitty, well not if they are married to you, at least. I never tried a husband of someone else....LOL.

 

[digimon7068]

"elite" isn't exactly how i would describe my feelings about myself when i'm wiping my son's ass. . .actually, he's probably the elite one. . .he takes a shit, i gotta clean it up. . .it's all good though i'll pay that little shit back when i'm 80 and sittin' around fillin' up my depends

 

[javaguru]

Well they sure as heck don't lick the best kitty, well not if they are married to you, at least. I never tried a husband of someone else....LOL.

Well, you should have realized that beforehand(dating process). Unlike women, men don't "pretend" to like giving oral....true kitty lovers will always give a good licking.

 

[txbondsman]

Well they sure as heck don't lick the best kitty, well not if they are married to you, at least. I never tried a husband of someone else....LOL.

I have been reccommended by past GF to other girls that I am a HELL of a kitty licker! references supplied on request.

 

[redsamurai]

do you realize you are painting all children who are in public schools as crack babies?? Do you realize what you're saying?? Do you get that most kids in public schools come from middle class families?? Private education is too expensive for the average middle class family, let alone a poor one. I completely agree that the education system in this country needs to be overhauled.....it would be great if the private sector could take care of it....but I don't see that happening, the "profit" margins just aren't there for them to be interested. So it has to be government run. I personally think our government doesn't really give a fuck about educating america's children.......the elite's kids get their private education.

Yes, by all means, lets nationalize education so the poorest children can be even more fucked-up than before. That government magic bullet will sure fix it!

Typical response... we just need to put more money into government. Some people never learn from past mistakes.

Now we could, just for fun, address the real issue of generational welfare recipients who are wards of the state and crank-out crack addicted kids but that would be too pragmatic. Even if you spend $10M in education on a crack-addicted, fetal alcohol syndrome baby from a third-generation welfare mother who isn't even sure who the father is, chances are he's not going to be a productive member of society.

 

[Bikini Mod]

do you realize you are painting all children who are in public schools as crack babies?? Do you realize what you're saying?? Do you get that most kids in public schools come from middle class families?? Private education is too expensive for the average middle class family, let alone a poor one. I completely agree that the education system in this country needs to be overhauled.....it would be great if the private sector could take care of it....but I don't see that happening, the "profit" margins just aren't there for them to be interested. So it has to be government run. I personally think our government doesn't really give a fuck about educating america's children.......the elite's kids get their private education.

I didnt know that if a child came from a household that made less than 1 mill they were in the same class as crack babies.

Dayum.... I guess that Hitler dude had it all right afterall. Damn do-gooders ruined it for all of us.















Wait a minute... I am NOT german. I have brown hair and eyes and am not genetically full-busted nor do I have the proper "child bearing hips"...

*gulp*

 

[heatherrae]

I didnt know that if a child came from a household that made less than 1 mill they were in the same class as crack babies.

Dayum.... I guess that Hitler dude had it all right afterall. Damn do-gooders ruined it for all of us.















Wait a minute... I am NOT german. I have brown hair and eyes and am not genetically full-busted nor do I have the proper "child bearing hips"...

*gulp*

To the gas chamber with you! lol.

 

[Bikini Mod]

To the gas chamber with you! lol.

HEY! Who you callin Gypsy?.... poor white trash!!!

 

[heatherrae]

HEY! Who you callin Gypsy?.... poor white trash!!!

LOL...I could have passed for an arian as a child. I may have made it through...lol.

 

[Lestat]

I don't think married with children is an "established, healthy, social norm."

Says who?? I see a lot of abusive marriages and hostile environments for children as a result.

 

[javaguru]

Research by British website http://www.insidedivorce.com

How kids cope The research found that:

80% of children of divorced parents consider themselves to be “quite happy” or “very happy”.
60% say it is better for parents who argue to split up.
80% of children of divorced parents say their home life is the same or better after divorce.
Just 28% of children of divorced parents want them to get back together.
The biggest benefit of a break-up for children is an end to arguments.
The greatest impact of divorce on children is a sense of helplessness and pressure to take sides.
The worst drawback is continuing arguments between parents over the time they spent with their children and the need to travel between two homes.
Few children – just 13% - object to their parents finding someone new after divorce.
70% of children of divorced parents say a definite “yes” to wedding bells at some point in their lives.

 

[heatherrae]

Research by British website http://www.insidedivorce.com

How kids cope The research found that:

80% of children of divorced parents consider themselves to be “quite happy” or “very happy”.
60% say it is better for parents who argue to split up.
80% of children of divorced parents say their home life is the same or better after divorce.
Just 28% of children of divorced parents want them to get back together.
The biggest benefit of a break-up for children is an end to arguments.
The greatest impact of divorce on children is a sense of helplessness and pressure to take sides.
The worst drawback is continuing arguments between parents over the time they spent with their children and the need to travel between two homes.
Few children – just 13% - object to their parents finding someone new after divorce.
70% of children of divorced parents say a definite “yes” to wedding bells at some point in their lives.

I couldn't agree more with those stats. When a family is very troubled, staying together for the kids sake, is usually more harmful than getting a divorce

 

[digimon7068]

Research by British website http://www.insidedivorce.com

How kids cope The research found that:

80% of children of divorced parents consider themselves to be “quite happy” or “very happy”.
60% say it is better for parents who argue to split up.
80% of children of divorced parents say their home life is the same or better after divorce.
Just 28% of children of divorced parents want them to get back together.
The biggest benefit of a break-up for children is an end to arguments.
The greatest impact of divorce on children is a sense of helplessness and pressure to take sides.
The worst drawback is continuing arguments between parents over the time they spent with their children and the need to travel between two homes.
Few children – just 13% - object to their parents finding someone new after divorce.
70% of children of divorced parents say a definite “yes” to wedding bells at some point in their lives.

from my experience. . .100% of children don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. . .

while i don't disagree that it's better to grow up in a single-parent home than one where the parents a friggin assholes. . .it doesn't excuse the parents from being assholes. . .and, i think that children that grow up in a traditional home with two loving parents are a hell of a lot better off than those that grow up in a single parent home. . .when i was a kid, my friends whose parents divorced got away with a hell of a lot more shit than i did. . .only one set of eyes on them. . .they also got a lot more presents than i did. . .their parents were always competing against one and other for the child's affection and trying to hurt the other one in the process. . .plus the gifts helped the parents deal with the guilt of having fucked up the whole situation to begin with. . .

from my experience, a lot of that "happiness" that the kids are experiencing is as a result of the material gifts that they are showered with and the additional "freedom" that usually exists in a single-parent household. . .while i believe that these children believe that they are happy (see my opening statement), i think that if you surveyed the same kids after they are grown up, the results would be a little different. . .historical perspective generally sheds a completely different light on things. . .

 

[javaguru]

from my experience. . .100% of children don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. . .

while i don't disagree that it's better to grow up in a single-parent home than one where the parents a friggin assholes. . .it doesn't excuse the parents from being assholes. . .and, i think that children that grow up in a traditional home with two loving parents are a hell of a lot better off than those that grow up in a single parent home. . .when i was a kid, my friends whose parents divorced got away with a hell of a lot more shit than i did. . .only one set of eyes on them. . .they also got a lot more presents than i did. . .their parents were always competing against one and other for the child's affection and trying to hurt the other one in the process. . .plus the gifts helped the parents deal with the guilt of having fucked up the whole situation to begin with. . .

from my experience, a lot of that "happiness" that the kids are experiencing is as a result of the material gifts that they are showered with and the additional "freedom" that usually exists in a single-parent household. . .while i believe that these children believe that they are happy (see my opening statement), i think that if you surveyed the same kids after they are grown up, the results would be a little different. . .historical perspective generally sheds a completely different light on things. . .

I think the point was how the kids feel about divorce and not whether or not they know what was best for their family. The point was that most kids of divorced parents prefered the divorce to the situation they were in. Most of the issues you mentioned are parenting issues and not issues with the kids themselves.

 

[Longhorn85]

LOL...coming from a man who has never even been married. You're the expert though...lol.

Using that logic, as a divorcee you are not an authority on the subject either. In fact, if anything you have proven that you are an anti-expert on family relationships.

 

[mrplunkey]

do you realize you are painting all children who are in public schools as crack babies?? Do you realize what you're saying??

No, I'm but you're clearly trying to read it that way for dramatic effect.

Do you get that most kids in public schools come from middle class families?? Private education is too expensive for the average middle class family, let alone a poor one.

Which is why we need to give everyone vouchers and let them spend the money however they see fit.

I completely agree that the education system in this country needs to be overhauled.....it would be great if the private sector could take care of it....but I don't see that happening, the "profit" margins just aren't there for them to be interested.

Vouchers. Say it with me a few times... vouchers... vouchers... vouchers...

So it has to be government run.

That's your standard answer to everything. Pretending like you used some logic here in deciding "it has to be goverment run" is laughable. Your answer on every thread is "more goverment" regardless of the subject.

I personally think our government doesn't really give a fuck about educating america's children.......

Of course they don't! When the hell are you going to figure this out? The goverment is run by people. People look-out for their best interests. Anytime you amass billions or even trillions of dollars and assign people to manage it, its going to be abused. So do they "give a fuck" about anything? Well... they do -- they very much care about carving-off the biggest, fattest slice of pork that they can. So how to you address the problem? You make sure there is less pork to fight over. And the only way to do that is to minimize goverment.

the elite's kids get their private education.

Well, you bring up an interesting point. Since you've decided I'm an ivory tower elitist, I guess I should be all for the status quo. That way the public educational system can keep dumbing-down generation after generation of kids which will insure my own children have an advantage going forward. The real elitists out there are the LBJ liberals who in the name of the "war on poverty" have institutionalized the poor into a permanant underclass by making them wards of the state -- and wasted tens of trillions of dollars in the process. But hey, he meant well and I guess good intentions have to count for something.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Using that logic, as a divorcee you are not an authority on the subject either. In fact, if anything you have proven that you are an anti-expert on family relationships.

Where does that leave me on the bell curve?




And just for the record... where are your children educated Plunkey?




Just saying.

 

[Gymgurl]

Is heatherRae divorced? If so I m soooo out of the loop lol

 

[Behemoth]

If parents made decisions on the best interest of their children, my division would close the doors and I would be unemployed.

People are idiots. They fall from the idiot tree.

 

[Bikini Mod]

If parents made decisions on the best interest of their children, my division would close the doors and I would be unemployed.

People are idiots. They fall from the idiot tree.

WERD

Sadly, parents is plural.

I have my 10 year old chastising her teachers because they do not know how to discipline other students to keep them from distracting the children in the class who want, more than anything, to learn.

I told her, "Baby, I want you to realize and remember that just because someone is older than you that does not automatically mean that they are smarter. Be respectfull in your inquiries but remain steadfast untill they give you an acceptable answer." (And yes, I did use that verbage.)

 

[velvett]

If parents made decisions on the best interest of their children, my division would close the doors and I would be unemployed.

People are idiots. They fall from the idiot tree.

DING DING DING


we have a winner

 

[digimon7068]

I think the point was how the kids feel about divorce and not whether or not they know what was best for their family. The point was that most kids of divorced parents prefered the divorce to the situation they were in. Most of the issues you mentioned are parenting issues and not issues with the kids themselves.

egg-zack-ly! polling children to determine if divorce is detrimental is like polling politicians to find out if the government is bad. . .

 

[heatherrae]

Using that logic, as a divorcee you are not an authority on the subject either. In fact, if anything you have proven that you are an anti-expert on family relationships.

Coming from an adulterer who is probably only still married because he is still deceiving his wife by not telling her the truth that he couldn't manage to keep his dick in his pants, I wouldn't throw any stones about other people's relationships if I were you.

 

[heatherrae]

Is heatherRae divorced? If so I m soooo out of the loop lol

He is talking about my divorce in 2004 and threw out all kinds of crap that my husband was a terrible man and that he is so much better...rofl.

He doesn't hold a candle to my ex hubbie. My ex hubbie was a very kind, gentle, loving soul. I have much love and respect for him still.

 

[alien amp pharm]

Coming from an adulterer who is probably only still married because he is still deceiving his wife by not telling her the truth that he couldn't manage to keep his dick in his pants, I wouldn't throw any stones about other people's relationships if I were you.

He said "Using that logic" and I agree with him.

I don't have to stick my hand into a flame to know it will burn it. Especially if I've seen other people do it prior.

You can only dream of having as much common sense and practical knowledge as I do. Best stick with your law books.

 

[heatherrae]

He said "Using that logic" and I agree with him.

I don't have to stick my hand into a flame to know it will burn it. Especially if I've seen other people do it prior.

You can only dream of having as much common sense and practical knowledge as I do. Best stick with your law books.

Yeah, that is the real impression you give off around here, dripping with practical knowledge and common sense.

Have you ever noticed that people who lack education always say, "yeah, but I have more common sense/ street smarts?" LOL.

You never tire of following me and slinging your little lame insults do you. I used to know kids like that when I was in grade school. Most learn better coping skills for their feelings of inadequacy by the time they're out of high school. Then, there is you.

 

[digimon7068]

Yeah, that is the real impression you give off around here, dripping with practical knowledge and common sense.

Have you ever noticed that people who lack education always say, "yeah, but I have more common sense/ street smarts?" LOL.

You never tire of following me and slinging your little lame insults do you. I used to know kids like that when I was in grade school. Most learn better coping skills for their feelings of inadequacy by the time they're out of high school. Then, there is you.

yikes. . .i didn't realize this was going on. . .sorry i bumped this thread back up this am. . .

 

[-SD-]

He is talking about my divorce in 2004 and threw out all kinds of crap that my husband was a terrible man and that he is so much better...rofl.

He doesn't hold a candle to my ex hubbie. My ex hubbie was a very kind, gentle, loving soul. I have much love and respect for him still.

Then why did you divorce?

 

[heatherrae]

Then why did you divorce?

I made the mistake of marrying my best friend and overlooking the fact that what I had for him was more of a platonic love than the sort of love that you should have for your husband. My husband caught wind of this idea after some time, although I tried to never let it show, because I did love him to death.

Our divorce was very amicable and we even held hands and shed a few tears when we were standing in the court room for the hearing to dissolve the marraige. To this day, I love him so much. Actually, that just brought a little tear to my eye. So many things I miss about him.

 

[alien amp pharm]

I made the mistake of marrying my best friend and overlooking the fact that what I had for him was more of a platonic love than the sort of love that you should have for your husband. My husband caught wind of this idea after some time, although I tried to never let it show, because I did love him to death.

Our divorce was very amicable and we even held hands and shed a few tears when we were standing in the court room for the hearing to dissolve the marraige. To this day, I love him so much. Actually, that just brought a little tear to my eye. So many things I miss about him.

So basically you married a ballless guy you knew you could dominate and control then got bored with it.

Sweet!

 

[Frisky]

What I think most don't realize... or accept is that not everyone marry's and has kids with future of divorce. I expected and wanted to raise my children in a comfortable loving 2 parent home. I have taken the monkey on my back though... Because i filed for divorce and I decided that our marriage was failing at a very fast pace. We pushed thru VERY hard times... and were together for 11 years without seperation at all... When time came that i felt WE needed it, I realized that the fix was long gone.

 

[Bikini Mod]

LOL

I am still waiting for the *experts* to let me know where I fall on the bell curve.

Just an observation, are the women on this site far less judgmental and humbled by life than the GROWN men ...... or is it just me?

 

[-SD-]

I made the mistake of marrying my best friend and overlooking the fact that what I had for him was more of a platonic love than the sort of love that you should have for your husband. My husband caught wind of this idea after some time, although I tried to never let it show, because I did love him to death.

Our divorce was very amicable and we even held hands and shed a few tears when we were standing in the court room for the hearing to dissolve the marraige. To this day, I love him so much. Actually, that just brought a little tear to my eye. So many things I miss about him.

So your husband had more than platonic love for you but you only had platonic love for him. Everything else about the guy was great but you managed to still get divorced? The whole divorce sounds forced or am I missing something. Most couples would kill to be in that position and simply let real love grow with time. I thought the best situation was to be friends first then get married?

 

[Bikini Mod]

So your husband had more than platonic love for you but you only had platonic love for him. Everything else about the guy was great but you managed to still get divorced? The whole divorce sounds forced or am I missing something. Most couples would kill to be in that position and simply let real love grow with time. I thought the best situation was to be friends first then get married?

When we are young we chase the cute bad guys because our mothers never told us to look at a man with our mind first, our heart second and our eyes last.

Not saying this happened to Ms Rae, but strictly speaking from my own experience. I wasted my affections on sooooooooooo many of the wrong type of man.... then life broke me and brought me my husband.

My husband is the most beautiful, amazing, charismatic man alive and I can see no other. There is NOTHING that another man could offer me that would cause me to even think about straying. ....and he looks like a santaclaus-lawngnome biker dude... but dammit he TOWERS head and shoulders above most men... in my estimation I CAN SEE NO OTHER.

 

[mrplunkey]

And just for the record... where are your children educated Plunkey?

My oldest goes to Bearden High (public school) and my middle child goes to West Valley (public school). My youngest is home schooled.

All three children have been offered Webb (a very nice, expensive private school). My oldest wanted to go to public school from day one. My middle child is considering changing to Webb for high school (but it's 100% her choice to make). My youngest will be leaving home school next year for either public or private school, per his choice.

Both my ex wife and I augment our children's education considerably as well.

 

[Bikini Mod]

My oldest goes to Bearden High (public school) and my middle child goes to West Valley (public school). My youngest is home schooled.

All three children have been offered Webb (a very nice, expensive private school). My oldest wanted to go to public school from day one. My middle child is considering changing to Webb for high school (but it's 100% her choice to make). My youngest will be leaving home school next year for either public or private school, per his choice.

Both my ex wife and I augment our children's education considerably as well.

So then I am confused (which isnt an exception) are you for or against public education?

 

[digimon7068]

What I think most don't realize... or accept is that not everyone marry's and has kids with future of divorce. I expected and wanted to raise my children in a comfortable loving 2 parent home. I have taken the monkey on my back though... Because i filed for divorce and I decided that our marriage was failing at a very fast pace. We pushed thru VERY hard times... and were together for 11 years without seperation at all... When time came that i felt WE needed it, I realized that the fix was long gone.

you married a normal dude that turned into an outlaw biker. . .based upon your story (which i believe), no way you could have seen that one coming. . .you get a free pass. . .no explanations necessary. . .plus you got them na-na's and you know how to handle a sidearm. . .you'll always get the benefit of the doubt from me

 

[alien amp pharm]

LOL

I am still waiting for the *experts* to let me know where I fall on the bell curve.

Just an observation, are the women on this site far less judgmental and humbled by life than the GROWN men ...... or is it just me?

Hopefully the rest of the EF crowd has learned to overlook your vomit of postings as I have.

You are a washed-up has-been. Go find your p-whipped husband if you're seeking attention.

 

[-SD-]

My oldest goes to Bearden High (public school) and my middle child goes to West Valley (public school). My youngest is home schooled.

All three children have been offered Webb (a very nice, expensive private school). My oldest wanted to go to public school from day one. My middle child is considering changing to Webb for high school (but it's 100% her choice to make). My youngest will be leaving home school next year for either public or private school, per his choice.

Both my ex wife and I augment our children's education considerably as well.

What is the median property value that the taxes are derived from to support those public schools?

 

[heatherrae]

So basically you married a ballless guy you knew you could dominate and control then got bored with it.

Sweet!

No, he wasn't balless. He was kind and romantic and loving. I didn't get bored of him either. Even when we were seperated we spent tons of time together and went on little dates to the movies and such. As hard as you try, you can't find anything to sully about him or me because what we had was above you and your mentality.

 

[-SD-]

No, he wasn't balless. He was kind and romantic and loving. I didn't get bored of him either. Even when we were seperated we spent tons of time together and went on little dates to the movies and such. As hard as you try, you can't find anything to sully about him or me because what we had was above you and your mentality.

Sounds like the perfect marriage, I dont get why you got divorced. I mean if you had a balancing scale and put all the good things about the marriage/him on one side and put the bad things on the other, the side with the good stuff would slam through the ground with its weight lol.

 

[heatherrae]

So your husband had more than platonic love for you but you only had platonic love for him. Everything else about the guy was great but you managed to still get divorced? The whole divorce sounds forced or am I missing something. Most couples would kill to be in that position and simply let real love grow with time. I thought the best situation was to be friends first then get married?

i didn't want the divorce. He did. He sensed that I loved him like a brother and not like a husband which sort of screwed with his ego and things sort of snowballed. He had some troubles at work and I graduated law school right at the same time we married and began making far more money than he did. It is hard to detail exactly how we got off track.

I still love him, but I still am not very physically attracted to him. Anyway, he has had a girlfriend for a few years now, and I fully support his happiness in that relationship. I wish him only the most love and happiness in the world. I hope we always remain freinds.

 

[-SD-]

i didn't want the divorce. He did. He sensed that I loved him like a brother and not like a husband which sort of screwed with his ego and things sort of snowballed. He had some troubles at work and I graduated law school right at the same time we married and began making far more money than he did. It is hard to detail exactly how we got off track.

I still love him, but I still am not very physically attracted to him. Anyway, he has had a girlfriend for a few years now, and I fully support his happiness in that relationship. I wish him only the most love and happiness in the world. I hope we always remain freinds.

Ok that makes more sense.