Marijuana Kills

[calveless wonder]

you take oxy's right plunk? how is that different

 

[jnevin]

great discussion...i've definetly learned a bit from the different view points in this thread.
jnevin has some serious issues with weed though, which i find humours, on a stairroid based board, for anyone to get so pissy about a soft drug like weed.
jnev, how do you live with yourself on sauce? seems like you'd be overwhelmed with guilt and shame

I don't really have issues with weed. Moreso with weedheads that seem to think that just because they happen to be hooked on it and it's not something like heroin, it should be legal and it's completely harmless.

Every argument comes back to "Well, they can drink, gamble, smoke, etc. Why can't I do illegal drugs?" Because it's still illegal. I wouldn't cry if I got caught with the joose and use the argument that it doesn't hurt anyone else.

And yeah guy. I have a stellar amount of self respect.

 

[binö]

I'm obviously being hyperbolic, but no addict of ANY other kind is like a pot addict. Rather than manning up and just saying, "I smoke pot because I like getting fucked up." They come up elaborate justifications for why they're some persecuted minority, the hold festivals honoring the fucking plant (the did when I was in Madison, WI -- it was pathetic -- can you imagine having a crack festival??), they maintain that the world would go to hell in a hand basket if the world didn't have weed, they even try to claim that a perfectly healthy person would be in still better health by smoking it!

Between college, grad school, and you, I've heard every bullshit excuse for getting high imaginable, yet NOT ONE OF YOU has the balls to admit to the fact that, even though you smoke-up daily, you're an addict. And as per the "victimless crime" bullshit, nigga please. I saw some extremely intelligent people smoke their way out of a very elite university. Funny how they later realized their pot habit had gotten them kicked out of school and that, as soon as they dumped that dumb ass drug, their grades went back up.

lol joosers make the exact type of arguments!
i've seen them here time and time again, even the fabled march on washington lollolol seriously i've heard that quite a few times here.
the lengths i've witnessed joosers go to justify their habits mirrors would you just said

 

[binö]

I don't really have issues with weed. Moreso with weedheads that seem to think that just because they happen to be hooked on it and it's not something like heroin, it should be legal and it's completely harmless.

Every argument comes back to "Well, they can drink, gamble, smoke, etc. Why can't I do illegal drugs?" Because it's still illegal. I wouldn't cry if I got caught with the joose and use the argument that it doesn't hurt anyone else.

And yeah guy. I have a stellar amount of self respect.

do you have a problem with joosers who talk about how harmless joose is, and since it's not like herion, it should be legal?

 

[binö]

these posts just aren't the same without the phrase "shooting up bathtub test"

in that vein, teen joosers are now getting mentor status at EF
wtf?
teen joosers at one time weren't allowed to post here...now they are lauded as e-heros, disgusting imo

 

[jnevin]

do you have a problem with joosers who talk about how harmless joose is, and since it's not like herion, it should be legal?

Of course I do. But that's not the point of this thread.

 

[binö]

i quit blazing with little problem
gone abou 6-7 months now, and i don't feel any better/smarter
either i fuct my brain permanatly, or there was never any damage to begin with

 

[binö]

Of course I do. But that's not the point of this thread.

honestly i never see you post that opinion in the "jooser freedom" type of threads, only in weed threads
which leads me to think you have some inherent dislike of weed

 

[Lestat]

i quit blazing with little problem
gone abou 6-7 months now, and i don't feel any better/smarter
either i fuct my brain permanatly, or there was never any damage to begin with

Same here, i went through phases of liking weed, not liking it, etc. I've found that generally speaking it acts as more of an enhaner on my life than a detractor. Yes, its illegal, but I strongly disagree with that. When they prohibited alcohol during prohibition many people aquired it illegally, I don't view them as criminals although technically they were, they were more oppressed by a government that, while good intentioned, was really meddling with people's personal freedom to a degree we hadn't seen before.

Some states still had anti sodomy laws on the books! most agree those are antiquated and unjust, I would say the same for the laws concerning marijuana posession and usage. By making those arguments, I don't absolve all personal responsiblity or hide the fact that there can be a downside for some, that isn't the point at all. The point is, the laws are unjust and unfair, and we can use the legislation (or lack of) in regards to other behaviors and substances as an example.

 

[Lestat]

This thread has got me thinking... I don't use juice now and dont plan on ever using it in the future (dabbled in the past), but I wouldn't try to restrict others from using it. I know a lot of people that have used or use it currently, most without issue, but the fact is, some kids do abuse it, some adults even fuck themselves up bad. Does this mean the substance itself is the problem?

Im actually ok with recreational coke usage or opiate usage. I've had friends abuse both and really fuck themselves up, but MOST people i know, including myself, who have used those things have done so without issue.

I do not ever want to use Xtasy, never have, never will, but again, I'm not going to talk down to someone who pops one every weekend at a rave. They could be doing some long term damage to their brain chemistry, but why the fuck is that any of my business?