Marijuana Kills

[jerseyrugger76]

that's an easy one...

giving up pot won't help people overall. If I was going to stop supporting things that have a deterimental effect on society I'd start with beef (which I already gave up), gasoline, guns, and then alcohol.

I say even in a utopia, marijuana will have its place. Its positive effects far outweight its negative.

You can't understand the concept of God, yet if you would listen to yourself and other pot addicts talk in such adoring terms about that stupid plant you would realize that you do, in fact, believe in god. Your god just happens to be green, leafy, and packable into small bowls. It's the damnedest thing I've ever seen.

 

[stilleto]

I'm still really shocked at the overall selfishness of this thread. Why not give-up drug use for the overall betterment of people? Sure you might not have problems with pot, but other people do.

then by your theory, alcohol should totally be illegal then too, right?

and sleeping pills?

and fast food. cigarrettes. and gambling.

 

[Lestat]

You can't understand the concept of God, yet if you would listen to yourself and other pot addicts talk in such adoring terms about that stupid plant you would realize that you do, in fact, believe in god. Your god just happens to be green, leafy, and packable into small bowls. It's the damnedest thing I've ever seen.

lololol

1) I fully understand the concept of a god
2) you apparently do not! I do not think this plant is divine or has a purpose for me or others. I do not try to derive my morals from the plant.

How did you come to think that this plant was anywhere near a "god" to me? What sort of religious dogma comes along with believing in this plant?

 

[jnevin]

I love it when potheads justify their addiction. All of a sudden it's not them with a problem, it's everyone else that drinks, gambles, etc.

 

[Lestat]

I love it when potheads justify their addiction. All of a sudden it's not them with a problem, it's everyone else that drinks, gambles, etc.

I think that drinking and gambling is perfectly benign for the vast majority of people who partake in them.

I think the point is, peopel who gamble and drink still like to limit other people's behavior because they either feel its worse than their's or they just don't enjoy it so why bother protecting someone's ability to partake.

It gets frustrating because there are millions of people that use pot, but I don't see where the social ills come into to play, with something like alcohol or ciggarettes or even gambling the issues are pretty well documented and observable on a daily basis.

 

[jerseyrugger76]

lololol

1) I fully understand the concept of a god
2) you apparently do not! I do not think this plant is divine or has a purpose for me or others. I do not try to derive my morals from the plant.

How did you come to think that this plant was anywhere near a "god" to me? What sort of religious dogma comes along with believing in this plant?

I'm obviously being hyperbolic, but no addict of ANY other kind is like a pot addict. Rather than manning up and just saying, "I smoke pot because I like getting fucked up." They come up elaborate justifications for why they're some persecuted minority, the hold festivals honoring the fucking plant (the did when I was in Madison, WI -- it was pathetic -- can you imagine having a crack festival??), they maintain that the world would go to hell in a hand basket if the world didn't have weed, they even try to claim that a perfectly healthy person would be in still better health by smoking it!


Between college, grad school, and you, I've heard every bullshit excuse for getting high imaginable, yet NOT ONE OF YOU has the balls to admit to the fact that, even though you smoke-up daily, you're an addict. And as per the "victimless crime" bullshit, nigga please. I saw some extremely intelligent people smoke their way out of a very elite university. Funny how they later realized their pot habit had gotten them kicked out of school and that, as soon as they dumped that dumb ass drug, their grades went back up.

 

[jnevin]

I think that drinking and gambling is perfectly benign for the vast majority of people who partake in them.

I think the point is, peopel who gamble and drink still like to limit other people's behavior because they either feel its worse than their's or they just don't enjoy it so why bother protecting someone's ability to partake.

It gets frustrating because there are millions of people that use pot, but I don't see where the social ills come into to play, with something like alcohol or ciggarettes or even gambling the issues are pretty well documented and observable on a daily basis.

Like I said.

 

[Lestat]

I'm obviously being hyperbolic, but no addict of ANY other kind is like a pot addict. Rather than manning up and just saying, "I smoke pot because I like getting fucked up." They come up elaborate justifications for why they're some persecuted minority, the hold festivals honoring the fucking plant (the did when I was in Madison, WI -- it was pathetic -- can you imagine having a crack festival??), they maintain that the world would go to hell in a hand basket if the world didn't have weed, they even try to claim that a perfectly healthy person would be in still better health by smoking it!


Between college, grad school, and you, I've heard every bullshit excuse for getting high imaginable, yet NOT ONE OF YOU has the balls to admit to the fact that, even though you smoke-up daily, you're an addict. And as per the "victimless crime" bullshit, nigga please. I saw some extremely intelligent people smoke their way out of a very elite university. Funny how they later realized their pot habit had gotten them kicked out of school and that, as soon as they dumped that dumb ass drug, their grades went back up.

Is someone who has a drink every day an addict?

Is someone who eats the same food every day an addict?

Is someone who watches the same TV every night of the week an addict?

Why are you so quick to judge other's behavior? Why is what other people do for pleasure and enjoyment in their liesure time of such a concern to you.

Also, do you know the definition of addiction? I suspect you don't. Its when the human body is dependent and reliant on something to function normally.

Do you know the different between addition and substance abuse? Do you know the distinction between subtance use and substance abuse. Maybe concern yourself with getting familiar with the terms you throw around so casually before concerning yoursel with other people's private behavior.

You seem to be taking a few personal experiences and generalizing them to all. Some people have issues with substances, I've seen it firsthand myself. Some people can't smoke pot because when they do they do not feel like working or doing anything productive. Just as when some people drink alcohol they get very violent, or engage in risky behaviors. No one is denying that these things do exist, there are risks to almost everything in life, pot is no exception.

But when I start to talk about about, its usually about how these risks are minimal, or different with different users, etc.

 

[Lestat]

Like I said.

i guess if I was going to go into smug mode i'd say something like

"I love when people judge others as a way to escape self reflection and critical examination of their own lives..."

 

[enigma4dub]

obama has already stated he is pro-MM, however, he explicitly said he is not going to spend political capital on making it legal on the federal level.

mccain...not sure what his stance is, either.

don't you worry about having your name in some database, though? honestly.

no because im not paranoid! although with the hash ive been taking down maybe the feds are at the door right now!!!

and i dont care about federal legalization just keep the dea out of ca.