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Marijuana is the most overrated 'substance' on earth

And legalizing another smokable form of carcinogens wouldn't lead to future respiratory problems? alcohol kills more than tobacco? Liver failure and drunk manslaughters tops cancer


marijauna isn't remotely as carcinogenic as cigarrettes. I know they keep trying to sell that as such but they've done studies on this in europe and there simply is no comparison. If you've got a joint in your mouth 24/7.....yes I"m sure you're going to have lung damage, but it's mainly from the heat of the smoke. From what I've read if you use a vaporizer you're almostly completely eliminating the damamge to your lungs. As a former smoker I can attest to what happens to your cardio vascular capacity from smoking cig's vs. weed.....it's not even comparable.




1. Homegrown takes 4=5 months harvest vs Homebrew 2 weeks batch
2. Homegrown male vs female plants pollinating = ruined 4 month crop vs. Homebrew a bad batch, gee make another
3. Homegrown 3-6 oz off one plant (depending), limited space planting vs Homebrew unlimited room, multiple barrels at a time (liquor, brew, wine)
4. Homegrown smell of weed heavily lingers, neighbors calling police, every animal eats marijuana, bugs killing plants, hard to keep PH levels right, to dry, to hot, to cold = dead 4 month harvest. Wait another yr till next round Vs. Wait another 2 weeks for next batch, wowzer
5. Germinating and cloning is difficult, picking out male plants early is difficult, tipping right is difficult vs. Add water, malt, hops, stir, yeast, ferment GEE WIZ
6. Penalty for growing weed vs penalty for homebrew, rhetorical

And that's just going on outdoor issues


but my point is that homebrew is crap. Just adding your malt's, hops and water doesn't a good beer make. I dunno, maybe you're hooked on that primo but I've been plenty happy with just straight up outdoor naturally grown weed. I don't need the kush's and the diesels to get high.


American tree is mainly grown indoors or greenhouse hydro, meaning 24/7 electricity (light/heat/humid/temp control) the expense of that compared to churning barrels of liquid isn't even close


agreed, which is why if I could grow it would be outside or at least on the window sill. Like I said, I would be fine with just straight natural weed.






Modern history, weed will get taxed if legalized also. Contradicting your logic here
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how is it contradicting? I know full well uncle sam will at least try to crack down on homegrowers if weed is legalized so you have to get it from a liscensed source. But if it get's legalized how hard are they really going to go after home growers? They can't, everybody will be growing some in their yard or greenhouse. You'll be able to go to a coffeehouse or cannabis club type outfit for the good primo shit and that's how it should be.
 
I just got done watching a really intriguing moving entitled "The American War on Drugs" Talk about food for thought.

Basically, preventing organic drugs (naturally occurring, like marijuana, mushrooms) from being legal in a very twisted way is a huge business that creates profits in numerous sectors ... and they're not talking some south American dictators, but good old American capitalists: American Drug War: The Last White Hope - War on Drugs
 
I just got done watching a really intriguing moving entitled "The American War on Drugs" Talk about food for thought.

Basically, preventing organic drugs (naturally occurring, like marijuana, mushrooms) from being legal in a very twisted way is a huge business that creates profits in numerous sectors ... and they're not talking some south American dictators, but good old American capitalists: American Drug War: The Last White Hope - War on Drugs

Looking at it from a socio-economic perspective: increased profits likely means increased employment rates. And increased employment likely means greater standards of living for countless families.

I'm HAPPY organic drugs are banned if it means greater livelihoods for many families. I think it's very twisted to potentially take a hot meal off a hard-working families plate, just so some fucking new age hippie doesn't have to worry about the legal consequences of their next shroom high.
 
Looking at it from an economic and social perspective: increased profits likely means increased employment rates. And increased employment likely means greater standards of living for countless families.

I'm HAPPY organic drugs are banned if it means greater livelihoods for many families. I think it's very twisted to potentially take a hot meal off a hard-working families plate, just so some fucking new age hippie can get one more shroom high.
You don't get it. It's closing an economic gate, so to speak. Preventing "organic" drugs from being accessed by the general public just creates a larger market for synthetic drugs. For example, in Amersterdam they've never heard of crystal meth.

If the war on drugs in America ended tomorrow it would put more than 2 billion a year back into the economy that is currently being used to "fight the war" and feed/house non violent drug offenders.

It's the same situation as what happened back with prohibition. People didn't stop drinking, they just drank poison and the govt. spent money (which they could have been collecting in taxes) chasing the bootleggers.

If they cared so much about protecting our health, why don't they make cigarettes, which kill about 1/2 a million people in this country alone, illegal?
 
You don't get it. It's closing an economic gate, so to speak. Preventing "organic" drugs from being accessed by the general public just creates a larger market for synthetic drugs. For example, in Amersterdam they've never heard of crystal meth.

If the war on drugs in America ended tomorrow it would put more than 2 billion a year back into the economy that is currently being used to "fight the war" and feed/house non violent drug offenders.

It's the same situation as what happened back with prohibition. People didn't stop drinking, they just drank poison and the govt. spent money (which they could have been collecting in taxes) chasing the bootleggers.

If they cared so much about protecting our health, why don't they make cigarettes, which kill about 1/2 a million people in this country alone, illegal?

There is no money to be made from MJ or shrooms because they can't be patented and therefore can't be monopolised. They are so simple to grow that in some parts of the world like india they're actually considered to be pests.

If legalized people would merely start growing there own, and it would prove to be devastating to the alcohol and tobacco industries and will results in increased unemployment rates. And considering our current economic climate, I think that's something we can do without. Such a major blow may just result in a collapse.

And let's not forget about the social implications. I'd rather not have to worry about the authorities turning up stoned everytime I feel the need to dial 999.

Of course they don't really take the general publics health into question regarding this and rightfully so. At ages 16 and 18 people should be able to decide what is good for them and what isn't. If they decide to use either substance irresponsibly, well then that's their problem.

Of course there are the ethcial issues surrounding the tobacco and alcohol industries. But that's a different story.
 
Is weed overrated ? IMHO its like alcohol, you get a decent feeling but its nowhere near mdma or stuff like that. But it does the job, specially H...
 
Wrong there's no way some half-pint limey prick is related to me.

Besides I'm the youngest in my family.

Cheers,
Scotsman
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Gotta love Scottish contempt for the British :D
 
There is no money to be made from MJ or shrooms because they can't be patented and therefore can't be monopolised. They are so simple to grow that in some parts of the world like india they're actually considered to be pests.

If legalized people would merely start growing there own, and it would prove to be devastating to the alcohol and tobacco industries and will results in increased unemployment rates. And considering our current economic climate, I think that's something we can do without. Such a major blow may just result in a collapse.

And let's not forget about the social implications. I'd rather not have to worry about the authorities turning up stoned everytime I feel the need to dial 999.

Of course they don't really take the general publics health into question regarding this and rightfully so. At ages 16 and 18 people should be able to decide what is good for them and what isn't. If they decide to use either substance irresponsibly, well then that's their problem.

Of course there are the ethcial issues surrounding the tobacco and alcohol industries. But that's a different story.

You dont understand basic economics. I can grow my own vegetables, make my own beer, even sew my own clothes. The government doesnt have a monopoly on any of that. So why dont I do that all myself instead of buying it like i already do? Because the time/effort/hassle it takes me to do those things is far more than just quickly buying those things from someone else. People tent to specialize when we have an economy that is money based and not barter based. You have a job, that is your specialty that you are using to acquire money, which you use to then buy goods and services because you cant make or provide all the goods and services you have in your life by your own time and effort. Therefore its much more efficient for my time and energy to pay someone else for those goods and services from the money that I get from a job or business, than to use up all the free time and energy in my life growing/making those things from scratch.
Basically this is the reason we even have currency at all. So we can pay people for goods and services that would take too much time and effort to do ourselves.
This is also the reason every tom, dick, and harry will not be growing their own weed, and will simply pay others money for it. Just like they do at a grocery store or clothing store and everything else they buy in life.
 
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