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Mag 10? any users?
- Thread starter sweed
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Honestly better off taking juice. Haven't heard much if anything from anyone who has used it. It's a top of the line pro-hormone(pre-tend steroids) so that's as good as it gets. Kind of like the difference between getting a bibi gun or a real 12 gauge shotgun. 
Get the real thing if you're going to go the hormone route.
Get the real thing if you're going to go the hormone route.well...
to be honest I have heard that mag-10 can make you lose your hair so I would never fuck with that...if you really want to stick with prohormones then go with 1-AD from ergo pharm.
I used it last year and gained about 5-7 lbs off of it, that and eating like a pig.
although recently I've discovered that amazingly, Test and dbol work a lot better than prohormones
to be honest I have heard that mag-10 can make you lose your hair so I would never fuck with that...if you really want to stick with prohormones then go with 1-AD from ergo pharm.
I used it last year and gained about 5-7 lbs off of it, that and eating like a pig.
although recently I've discovered that amazingly, Test and dbol work a lot better than prohormones
I hear ya on the real thing.... I just dont have the money right now... I guess i'll have to settle for the bb gun, haha
But boy How bad I would love to try a cycle... Hearing about the pumps sounds crazy... ne one wanna give me a loan??
ne one got ne more responces , please let me know
Thanks Mike
But boy How bad I would love to try a cycle... Hearing about the pumps sounds crazy... ne one wanna give me a loan??
ne one got ne more responces , please let me know
Thanks Mike
DJ_UFO
Banned
basically the difference between prohormones and the real mccoy, is that prohormone give you some good gains with a lot of sides. The real juice, give you very good gains with far less sides. I tried 4ad with 1-test. my balls shrinked very hard, my hair felt in the front line, got a lot of pimples on my back, and gained 10 pounds solid after 6 weeks. It was 13 pounds after cycle with water. Kept 10 of them. with the real juice, i've already gained 12 pounds in 3 weeks without that bloated look.
Sweed said:
10 week cycle of d-bol for 220$??? I can get 1000 for that much but I know not everyone can so even so, 220$ for 10 weeks is ok I guess. A cycle of test that would cost less than 150$ for 10 weeks on 500mg/week would be good. Shit if you can get your hands on some QV test enanthate you can get a 50cc bottle with 250mg per cc for under 200$ if you have a good source. Even if you don't you could get it for 300$. That bottle will last a newbie 2 long cycles.
Sweed said:
Why hope when you can get it for sure. It's like saying you want to swim in the ocean and then saying "I hope there are no sharks in these shark infested waters" instead of swimming in nice tropical waters where you know there are definately no sharks around. hehehehe
Sweed said:
Do a search on test only cycles. There are far too many. Do a search overall on steroids in general too bro. Just for your own good. Asking if their are any sides shows you're still very new to the game. Enjoy the wonderful world of underground fitness. Just be sure you can swim before you jump in you know what I'm saying.
Guys, do you not think you are pushing a guy to gear, that was not quite ready yet?
Sweed, getting on the juice is a big decision, and involves much more than comparing the price of prohormones to test. It seems like you made the jump pretty quickly here. Is this really the route you were wanting to go? Especially if you already knew a source as you mentioned above. Dont let people pressure you into this. When I was natural, I did a couple of PH cycles (1-test from MHP, and 4AD) and I did get some gains and did not have to worry about the sides. Not, I am constantly worried about sides, taking anti-e's, etc. Not that the sides are not avoidable and controlable, they are, but you need to know what you are getting into. I do not know of one guy personally that has gyno from PH. From gear on the other hand...
Just think about it.
Sweed, getting on the juice is a big decision, and involves much more than comparing the price of prohormones to test. It seems like you made the jump pretty quickly here. Is this really the route you were wanting to go? Especially if you already knew a source as you mentioned above. Dont let people pressure you into this. When I was natural, I did a couple of PH cycles (1-test from MHP, and 4AD) and I did get some gains and did not have to worry about the sides. Not, I am constantly worried about sides, taking anti-e's, etc. Not that the sides are not avoidable and controlable, they are, but you need to know what you are getting into. I do not know of one guy personally that has gyno from PH. From gear on the other hand...
Just think about it.
GodOfThunder
New member
Sweed I can tell you first hand that pro hormones carry some bad side effects. They made my natural gyno worse and my left nipple started lactating. I got some pimples on my back. Oh yea, strength went up a little bit and I gained 5 pounds. All in all, 6 months later, seeing as how I am alot more educated on AAS and Prohormones(I am still AAS free by the way), I would say that if you are physically ready to alter your hormones, real steroids are DEFINITLEY a better choice. Look into Oxandrolone(Anavar). That is what I am considering using for my first cycle.
hey thanks a lot guys.. I know i am NOT ready for my very first cycle just yet.. I still have a lot of research to do on my own. I was just a little over excited being a newbie in here and talkin to you all, tryin to find out all this info. there is still a lot of things I have to learn about like "gear" and "AAS" , dont kno what those mean? but i'll find out.
I really appriciate all the helpful info you guys have given me, thanks a lot
-Sweed
I really appriciate all the helpful info you guys have given me, thanks a lot
-Sweed
yeah
Sweed,
I wasnt tryin to push you into cycling yet, just letting you know that with prohormones you do run the risk of getting as many sides as you do gains.
I started researching into supplements that would help me gain a good few years ago, and only recently have I made that jump. If I were you I would keep training hard and focus on your diet.
I dont know how clean it is but take the amount of protein you are currently taking in and add 50 grams. Do that for a month and you'll see more growth. Also keep taking your other supps as they can only help you on your quest.
Do some research and ask intelligent questions, we're all here to help each other, and you seem like a smart guy so dont rush into anything without weghing the options fully.
Good luck
Tony
Sweed,
I wasnt tryin to push you into cycling yet, just letting you know that with prohormones you do run the risk of getting as many sides as you do gains.
I started researching into supplements that would help me gain a good few years ago, and only recently have I made that jump. If I were you I would keep training hard and focus on your diet.
I dont know how clean it is but take the amount of protein you are currently taking in and add 50 grams. Do that for a month and you'll see more growth. Also keep taking your other supps as they can only help you on your quest.
Do some research and ask intelligent questions, we're all here to help each other, and you seem like a smart guy so dont rush into anything without weghing the options fully.
Good luck
Tony
Ya I already take in around 300 grams of protein a day, some days more , some days less. I am taking N-large and that helped me gain a lot since september... I am looking to bulk up a lot til the spring. My goal right now is 250 lbs , I am at about 222 right now... I was 195 when I started school in september! So i think for now I am gonna keep on my diet and do my reseach...
Thanks again for the support Tony
-Sweed
Thanks again for the support Tony
-Sweed
Sughrue
New member
To answer your original question, I have tried Mag-10 and didn't get any results from it whatsoever. It's also very expensive; something close to $50/week. I stopped using it 3 weeks in and switched to 1-AD/4-AD.
I've had very good results with Ergopharm's 1-AD and 4-AD. I've done one 30-day cycle of 1-AD alone and am now finishing one with both 1-AD and 4-AD. Gained about 15 pounds lbm with no sides but not crazy dosages either.
Now here learning, drinking from a firehose, possibly looking to try a real cycle sometime early next year.
Sughrue
I've had very good results with Ergopharm's 1-AD and 4-AD. I've done one 30-day cycle of 1-AD alone and am now finishing one with both 1-AD and 4-AD. Gained about 15 pounds lbm with no sides but not crazy dosages either.
Now here learning, drinking from a firehose, possibly looking to try a real cycle sometime early next year.
Sughrue
twistedneck
New member
The word is 4-AD alone doesn't AXE your libido as bad as 1AD or 1-Test. 4AD is more anabolic in nature - check out Big Cat's profile of it on bodybuilding.com . Biotest has a well researched 4-AD EC liquid product.
madmatt I would like to try and get as big as possible first with out juicin'... i have already gained a lot this year since september... although the juice is in my mind.. just not yet.. still want to research and experiment with the legal stuff first...
thanks tho for your opinion
-Sweed
thanks tho for your opinion
-Sweed
Sweed said:
Legal, illegal doesn't mean shit unless you are worried about getting in trouble at which point most cops don't care if you juice or not. Anyway even in certain countries even pro-hormones are illegal and in some not. See what I mean? It doesn't matter. There is no such thing as natural. Anyway you might not be ready for steroids but don't think that eating alot of protein and taking alot of supplements and busting your ass lifting a ton of weight is natural because it's not.
BTW - although alot of individuals don't like it a deca only cycle is a good choice imo. Just don't do it for too long and too high a dose. Maybe add some proviron mid-way if you need it. My younger brother just finished his 3rd deca only cycle(damn does he love deca) with good results still. Using the same doseage as well. 300mg/week for 10 weeks. Yeah he's real mild.
Maybe i threw words around in my last post without thinking... but i think you might understand it better if I said I was only 20... maybe i need a few more years... I am 6'2'' and 220 lbs, and im sure if i get a good first cycle I can really increase my strength and mass gains...
Thanks again mike
Thanks again mike
DJ_UFO
Banned
Bro...my only advice...DO NOT GO WITH PRO HORMONES. You'll have some gains but you can get very hard sides...I'm telling you...I'm on week 5 of a real cycle and having half the sides from pro hormones. Do your research, homework and go. I was reading forums for about a year and a half before going with a cycle.
I'm not recomending juicing, but prohormones have much worse side effects than roid's and produce less results. prohormones have not been around long enough to know the long term effects. Steroids on the other hand have been around for many years and their effects are well known. look at it like this, prohormones are something some chemist who works for a supplement company put together in a lab somewhere and found that it will make you gain a few pounds of muscle, throws it in a bottle and it's off to the store shelves where they can sell it and make money, without ever researching side effects, they don't have time to waste doing that, because of all the competition in the industry. Steroids on the other hand were developed by scientist to produce healthy weight gain in ill patients normally suffering from muscle wasting diseases, and studied by the FDA for many years before being released.
I used to take prohormones and I got descent results, but much worse side effects. I will not take them any more because the shut me down way harder than roids do as well as being much worse on the liver also. If you don't believe me run a ten week cycle of test at 250-500mgs a week and have your liver enzymes tested, then run a 10 week cycle of 1-AD and have the same test run. Oh, yeah you can try the same test with your prostate too.
I used to take prohormones and I got descent results, but much worse side effects. I will not take them any more because the shut me down way harder than roids do as well as being much worse on the liver also. If you don't believe me run a ten week cycle of test at 250-500mgs a week and have your liver enzymes tested, then run a 10 week cycle of 1-AD and have the same test run. Oh, yeah you can try the same test with your prostate too.
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