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Alright guys, so my older brother used to workout with me over summer break and he messed up something in his lower back, his lower left side of his back, right above left buttcheek. It hurts if he stands/sits to long, if he leans forward/ pick legs up for abs, touching/tieing shoes. We don't have money to go to a doctor/chiro i need help diagnosing his problem so we can find ways to rehab his injury all help is appreciated
 
Massage and heat. Stretching is good too. Traction is great if you pull on his leg and he gets relief that way, you can figure out some back traction set up. Look on EBay for some inexpensive back traction ideas. It might be a disk, but even disks can resolve themselves without doctor care, although it takes time. A few days of taking Ibuprofen every 4 hours could help.
 
if its soft tissue problem or even muscle it can seem like its the bone.

he could have hurt it lifting but with the adrenaline rush didn't know it was hurt until when he woke up.

hard to determine the problem.. don't blame you for not seeing a doc all they are gonna do is take xray's and give him drugs. neither of which will solve the problem.

for now just have him rest it.. try heat and ice alernating and see if it feels better..
 
He has taken 2 or 3 months off lifting and it still hurts him.. What stretches? I think it could be bad posture he sits like oldman sometimes
 
I had pretty much the same symptoms, although all injuries are unique. I ended up with two herniated disc's (L5-S1). Been seeing a chiro and physical therapist for almost a year now. It's gotten a lot better but still isn't 100%. Just Google lower back stretches. I do a lot of core work at the therapist. I went to the doctor and refused to be put on pain meds no matter how much it hurt. I just manned up and took it, even though my wife has had to pick me up off the couch a few times. That being said, if you can, visit the doctor at least once. Just try to get a proper diagnosis before you do a lot more damage. It took me a long time to visit one, and I guarantee you I did more harm than good trying to self medicate myself. Good luck.
 
i had the same injury,L5- S1 herniated disc. did it squating in the gym. had constant numbness is left foot. could not sit down or stand to long. a good doctor in nyc told me i needed surgery...never got it. lower back stretching and a good chiro helped me. most of all it took time to heal. a lot of time. i changed my workout routine and carefully choose excercises with less strain too back. just started doing squats again last month. very little weight see how it goes, this was over 10 years ago injury
 
Burnthiscorpse said:
Inversion table bro. Trust me. I have owned one for over 12 years. From pinched nerves to tweaked lumbar vertabrae to wifes degenerative disk issue. It will fix almost any issue with your lumbar section.
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you've mentioned that before man. i want to get one but i cannot find one anywhere, looked at every store in my town. saw an informercial for one but I don't trust those informercials, seems like its always a scam.

can you recommend a store/site to get one? maybe get a used one from craigslist?

i am definately gonna get it
 
Evan Tipps said:
He has taken 2 or 3 months off lifting and it still hurts him.. What stretches? I think it could be bad posture he sits like oldman sometimes
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there are a lot of things you need to do for long term health with weightlifting. the problem with lifting is we don't get hit with injuries that are direct.. a lot of times they are nagging type injuries that we get over time and they never get a chance to heal because we keep pounding away.

a quality mattress, pillow is important.. stretching everyday and especially warming up before and stretching after workouts. yoga.. an occasional visit to the acupuncturist/massage therapist/chiropractor.. learning to sleep on the back and not the side or stomach..

if he juices he needs to be careful not to over do things as well. you are right that taking 2 or 3 months off from lifting sometimes doesn't help the situation. when i had shin splints from running i took 6 months straight off running which sucked and my shins still hurt.
 
Looking at inversion tables online, looks like there are many different price points. From $90 to $300. What's the diff? Looks like Walmart even sells them.

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Thanks guys! All your help is much appreciated my brother said thank you as well, he will start stretching every morning and we will look into the inversion tables.
 
stevesmi said:
you've mentioned that before man. i want to get one but i cannot find one anywhere, looked at every store in my town. saw an informercial for one but I don't trust those informercials, seems like its always a scam.

can you recommend a store/site to get one? maybe get a used one from craigslist?

i am definately gonna get it
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If your talking about that crazy old fucker.... "teeter hangups" That table is supposed to be legit.

I spent $200 on mine 12 years ago. Dicks sporting goods has them.

I wouldnt get a cheap one guys. Weight limit, quality construction and stability is the biggest factor. Seeing them in person is the best judge. Some of them have little frilly uneccessary shit to jack up the price but usually the more expensive the better the table.
You dont want to cheap out on something that is holding you upside down that could possibly drop you on your head and either kill you or cripple you. You have to look at it that way.

But I promise you guys...inversion tables are all they are cracked up to be. ESPECIALLY if you get some lower back shit from time to time.

If you get that little tweak in the low lumbar and when you move certain ways it shoots out along your waist line towards the hip...that shit is a tweaked vertabrae that is pinching a nerve. This is where inversion really shines. Sometimes if its real bad the muscles are so tight from trying to protect the area it takes a few days to get it to loosen up. If I cant get an adjustment i want I will go take a hot shower then try and hang. Once in a while I will have to take a 800mg motrin to relax the muscles enough. I know motrin sucks and isnt healthy but once in a while you gotta do what it takes. If its super bad you might even need a muscle relaxer. But that shit is usually extreme cases. Most guys just need to hang fully suspended a few times and it will start to loosen up. Another thing is getting used to relaxing and breathing real deep and focusing on letting your torso pull away from your legs.
 
Burnthiscorpse said:
If your talking about that crazy old fucker.... "teeter hangups" That table is supposed to be legit.
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You're


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stevesmi said:
you've mentioned that before man. i want to get one but i cannot find one anywhere, looked at every store in my town. saw an informercial for one but I don't trust those informercials, seems like its always a scam.

can you recommend a store/site to get one? maybe get a used one from craigslist?

i am definately gonna get it
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I have inversion boots and a chin up bar. Compared to a table, its cheaper, and takes up way less space. I love hanging! And, I never feel like I'm missing out by not being able to do gradual angles like a table can. Straight up and down feels great.

Here's my set up:
Amazon.com: Teeter Hang Ups EZ Up Inversion and Chin Up System with Rack, Gravity Boots and Healthy Back DVD: Health & Personal Care
 
jb2012ny said:
i had the same injury,L5- S1 herniated disc. did it squating in the gym. had constant numbness is left foot. could not sit down or stand to long. a good doctor in nyc told me i needed surgery...never got it. lower back stretching and a good chiro helped me. most of all it took time to heal. a lot of time. i changed my workout routine and carefully choose excercises with less strain too back. just started doing squats again last month. very little weight see how it goes, this was over 10 years ago injury
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Don't do it. Not worth it!!!
 
Ok - I have had increasing back issues over the years and finally got it diagnosed so let me pass on my experience and what I have learned. I have what is called spondylolysis - google it. About 10% of people have it. Some is injury some just genetics or both. It is degenerative and can make old age miserable.

Your Bro has a pinched nerve from a bulging or displaced disk. Stretching hamstrings really helps as does a few yoga moves. However, it is super important to find out if it is spondylolysis which you will need a cat scan for. So for all that have back issues I encourage you to find this out as you will end up disabled if you keep some lifting that stresses the back.

Working in oilfield country, they now per-screen labor for this as they know if someone has it and they put them in the field, they will end up paying long term dissability.

So ... Cliff notes.
- go get scanned for spondylolysis
- if have, stop lifting or you are accelerating future spinal fusion
 
youpissmeoff said:
Ok - I have had increasing back issues over the years and finally got it diagnosed so let me pass on my experience and what I have learned. I have what is called spondylolysis - google it. About 10% of people have it. Some is injury some just genetics or both. It is degenerative and can make old age miserable.

Your Bro has a pinched nerve from a bulging or displaced disk. Stretching hamstrings really helps as does a few yoga moves. However, it is super important to find out if it is spondylolysis which you will need a cat scan for. So for all that have back issues I encourage you to find this out as you will end up disabled if you keep some lifting that stresses the back.

Working in oilfield country, they now per-screen labor for this as they know if someone has it and they put them in the field, they will end up paying long term dissability.

So ... Cliff notes.
- go get scanned for spondylolysis
- if have, stop lifting or you are accelerating future spinal fusion
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Thank you! He said it feels good when he does hamstring stretches so I will tell him to keep doing those he hasnt been lifting except for today he went with me and he will start going with me again in a month hopefully it will be better by then
 
Evan Tipps said:
Thank you! He said it feels good when he does hamstring stretches so I will tell him to keep doing those he hasnt been lifting except for today he went with me and he will start going with me again in a month hopefully it will be better by then
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Keeping hamstrings stretched is crucial to lower back health. I actually had mu wife walk on my hamstrings a few minutes ago. The yoga position called the dog can help from the calf all the way to the ham/glutes tie in.
 
Burnthiscorpse said:
Keeping hamstrings stretched is crucial to lower back health. I actually had mu wife walk on my hamstrings a few minutes ago. The yoga position called the dog can help from the calf all the way to the ham/glutes tie in.
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I should probably stretch more for my self than. im not very flexible :O
 
Evan Tipps said:
Thank you! He said it feels good when he does hamstring stretches so I will tell him to keep doing those he hasnt been lifting except for today he went with me and he will start going with me again in a month hopefully it will be better by then
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Hamstring stretch
Downward facing dog
Long walks
Less sitting
More laying down
Advil

NO Lifting
 
don't forget pigeon pose. really stretches out the hips and opens them up. its a fun one too.

if in doubt go to a yoga class.. not some old people yoga class, go to one that is challenging.. you will learn a lot of poses to use at home.

i ordered an inversion table, will let everyone know how it goes.. this makes sense because when i sleep the top of my head gets crunched to the headboard pushing things down.. so the table should stretch things back out, i expect it to help me bigtime.
 
stevesmi said:
i ordered an inversion table, will let everyone know how it goes.. this makes sense because when i sleep the top of my head gets crunched to the headboard pushing things down.. so the table should stretch things back out, i expect it to help me bigtime.
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I just had a nice hang after my squat workout. Felt great. So how are you liking that inversion table steve?
 
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