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OK, so here we go. I am 41 years old 6'4" and weigh 275. Went to doc and had labs since it had been over 10 years!! So, the doc i went to ruled out diabetes and thyroid etc. My fasting blood glucose levels have been semi-high around 110-120, but an a1c was normal. So he decided to have my Testosterone levels tested. My original labs were done in the fall of 2010, Nov 10 and here were the results: from Labcorps...
14013- Testosterone, free and total
Testosterone serum: 362 ng/dl 280-800
Free testosterone (direct): 8.3 pg/ml 6.8-21.5 This was all he tested apparently!!! No LH or FSH, E2, etc.
He called me and said he had identified the issue---Low T, and explained that he had some options for me to consider.
So I rcvd my 1st shot on Dec. 12th of 200mg Test cyp, and he said to come back at beginning of the year and would go from there. I weighed 275 at beginning of December. By end of Dec. I went back to doc Jan. 8th and was now up to low 280's, and I did not feel anything from this 1 shot, and had started to research on these forums, and thought I should do weekly. Now keep in mind at this point he never once mentioned TRT HRT, lifetime or explained a plan.
He just mentioned taking 8-10 shots and then retesting., and explained the benefits of gaining some muscle and helping to lose some fat. So he agreed to do weekly injections of 200mg test cyp. So i began weekly injections then --beginning of year. After the 4th shot I started to feel much better (energy, motivation etc.), however, I was now up to 295
I know my strength was exploding in the gym, but I was really concerned that this might affect my fertility. My wife and I have been trying to conceive for a few years and I have always had very good sperm labs in the 50-80 million range. So after my 7th shot end of February, i went to see doc and had some questions for him--like what was his plans for me when i stop the shots, and how will i recover, will this affect my natural production, and do i need some AI's or some HCG etc. He was clueless!!!
So I asked to see a specialist (endo). So I went to endo in mid March, and he confirmed that I was starting to shut down. He said stop shots immediately lets wait 4-6 weeks and retest. He didnt even want me to take why protein supps. He did a physical exam and thought my testes were 40-50% smaller than normal, and they had begun to shrink from the shots.
He couldnt believe the doc had scripted me 200m/week, conidering my levels were only normal low--362. Bottom line is I had labs done again at the local VA hospital in April--6 weeks after last shot: rcvd complete blood count, thyroid tested, and testosterone: they use quest.
April 19th 1st VA labresults---
HBa1c 5.5 range 4-6
GLU 108 H 72-99
chol 144 0-200
HDL 39 35-65 little low
LDL(Calc) 87 65-165
TSH 1.819 .47-5
T3 UPTK 29 22-35
T4 6.67 4.5-12
FT4 1.08 .7-1.48
FSH .8L miu/ml 1.6-8.0
LH <0.2 1.5-9.3 almost shut down completely after 8 total shots of 200mg/week of test cyp over a 3mo.
TRIIODO 99ng/Dl 76-181
Estadiol 35pg/ml 13-54
Total Test 400ng/dl 250-1100
FR Test: 41.4L pg/ml 46-224 below normal range
TESTBIO 81.5L ng/dl 110-575 below normal
SHBG: 44nmol/L 9-45 seems high suppose to restest in 60 days, waited 5 months til Sept. 21st- Results: Quest
2nd VA lab by quest: chantilly, Quest diagnostics nichols institute
HBA1c: 5.7 4-6
GLU 104 72-99
TSH 1.81 .47-5 same exact as earlier????
LH 2.6 miu/ml 1.5-9.3 up from before where I was super low
FSH (STL-MA) 4.0 1.6-8.0
Total Test 267ng/dl 241-827
Albumim (pb-sendout) 4.7 g/dl 3.6-5.1
Test FREE (sendout) 50.1pg/ml 46-224 seems low?
TEST BIOAVAILMA-PB-SO) 107.3L ng/dl 110-575 below normal???
SHBG $21.12 39nmol/L 10 -50
Didnt have estradiol tested...
Oh yeah I had a sperm lab done in July and the labs were 19 mi;lllion 20-100million is the range, so little low!!
I am just wondering what supps I can take to get my Free test up until we can conceive or stop trying. Then at that point I will consider TRT, but til then I am wondering if I should take any HCG or use some AI'sl like aramidex or aromasin??
Any supps I should take like to boost my FREE T & total T?? I feel sluggish, but make it to the gym 3-4 times a week. My sleep patterns arent that good either --FYI, and I am concerned about these levels. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, and I suppose I should mention my libido is decent, never have had a problem getting it up, although very rare to get morning wood within the last year---accept while taking shots!!
Thanks and help/advice appreciated!!!
OK, so here we go. I am 41 years old 6'4" and weigh 275. Went to doc and had labs since it had been over 10 years!! So, the doc i went to ruled out diabetes and thyroid etc. My fasting blood glucose levels have been semi-high around 110-120, but an a1c was normal. So he decided to have my Testosterone levels tested. My original labs were done in the fall of 2010, Nov 10 and here were the results: from Labcorps...
14013- Testosterone, free and total
Testosterone serum: 362 ng/dl 280-800
Free testosterone (direct): 8.3 pg/ml 6.8-21.5 This was all he tested apparently!!! No LH or FSH, E2, etc.
He called me and said he had identified the issue---Low T, and explained that he had some options for me to consider.
So I rcvd my 1st shot on Dec. 12th of 200mg Test cyp, and he said to come back at beginning of the year and would go from there. I weighed 275 at beginning of December. By end of Dec. I went back to doc Jan. 8th and was now up to low 280's, and I did not feel anything from this 1 shot, and had started to research on these forums, and thought I should do weekly. Now keep in mind at this point he never once mentioned TRT HRT, lifetime or explained a plan.
He just mentioned taking 8-10 shots and then retesting., and explained the benefits of gaining some muscle and helping to lose some fat. So he agreed to do weekly injections of 200mg test cyp. So i began weekly injections then --beginning of year. After the 4th shot I started to feel much better (energy, motivation etc.), however, I was now up to 295
I know my strength was exploding in the gym, but I was really concerned that this might affect my fertility. My wife and I have been trying to conceive for a few years and I have always had very good sperm labs in the 50-80 million range. So after my 7th shot end of February, i went to see doc and had some questions for him--like what was his plans for me when i stop the shots, and how will i recover, will this affect my natural production, and do i need some AI's or some HCG etc. He was clueless!!!
So I asked to see a specialist (endo). So I went to endo in mid March, and he confirmed that I was starting to shut down. He said stop shots immediately lets wait 4-6 weeks and retest. He didnt even want me to take why protein supps. He did a physical exam and thought my testes were 40-50% smaller than normal, and they had begun to shrink from the shots.
He couldnt believe the doc had scripted me 200m/week, conidering my levels were only normal low--362. Bottom line is I had labs done again at the local VA hospital in April--6 weeks after last shot: rcvd complete blood count, thyroid tested, and testosterone: they use quest.
April 19th 1st VA labresults---
HBa1c 5.5 range 4-6
GLU 108 H 72-99
chol 144 0-200
HDL 39 35-65 little low
LDL(Calc) 87 65-165
TSH 1.819 .47-5
T3 UPTK 29 22-35
T4 6.67 4.5-12
FT4 1.08 .7-1.48
FSH .8L miu/ml 1.6-8.0
LH <0.2 1.5-9.3 almost shut down completely after 8 total shots of 200mg/week of test cyp over a 3mo.
TRIIODO 99ng/Dl 76-181
Estadiol 35pg/ml 13-54
Total Test 400ng/dl 250-1100
FR Test: 41.4L pg/ml 46-224 below normal range
TESTBIO 81.5L ng/dl 110-575 below normal
SHBG: 44nmol/L 9-45 seems high suppose to restest in 60 days, waited 5 months til Sept. 21st- Results: Quest
2nd VA lab by quest: chantilly, Quest diagnostics nichols institute
HBA1c: 5.7 4-6
GLU 104 72-99
TSH 1.81 .47-5 same exact as earlier????
LH 2.6 miu/ml 1.5-9.3 up from before where I was super low
FSH (STL-MA) 4.0 1.6-8.0
Total Test 267ng/dl 241-827
Albumim (pb-sendout) 4.7 g/dl 3.6-5.1
Test FREE (sendout) 50.1pg/ml 46-224 seems low?
TEST BIOAVAILMA-PB-SO) 107.3L ng/dl 110-575 below normal???
SHBG $21.12 39nmol/L 10 -50
Didnt have estradiol tested...
Oh yeah I had a sperm lab done in July and the labs were 19 mi;lllion 20-100million is the range, so little low!!
I am just wondering what supps I can take to get my Free test up until we can conceive or stop trying. Then at that point I will consider TRT, but til then I am wondering if I should take any HCG or use some AI'sl like aramidex or aromasin??
Any supps I should take like to boost my FREE T & total T?? I feel sluggish, but make it to the gym 3-4 times a week. My sleep patterns arent that good either --FYI, and I am concerned about these levels. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, and I suppose I should mention my libido is decent, never have had a problem getting it up, although very rare to get morning wood within the last year---accept while taking shots!!
Thanks and help/advice appreciated!!!
