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gurusevuppal

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hey bros,
i am not a beginner to weights and have been doing 5x5 routine for while, jus thought of changing things around. luking for a bodybuilding type routine. plz help
cheers
 
Just put on some posing trunks, admit you are gay, and do some drop sets. I'll let BIll Star and Mark Rippetoe know you have decided against being strong.

"I feel sorry for your mother"

- Store Clerk in Menace 2 Society
 
Mercere said:
What are your numbers and your weight?
now the embrassing part:
weigh near 89 kg mark, 5'10
number from last week workout
squat : 87.5 * 8 reps
bench : 77.5 * 6 reps
deadlift : 92.5 *4 reps
rows : 65 * 5 reps
overhead dumbbell press: 52.5 * 9

well that covers nearly all the things
 
al420 said:
Just put on some posing trunks, admit you are gay, and do some drop sets. I'll let BIll Star and Mark Rippetoe know you have decided against being strong.

"I feel sorry for your mother"

- Store Clerk in Menace 2 Society

that was funny. but, seriously i seen guys in my gym doing 100 kg bench and then drop sets. but never seen them doing deads or squats. so when it comes to that i smash them easily. man, i am no powerlifter or bodybuilder. i am jus building to luk gud and pick up chics :) but at end of day, these guys gets all the fun, coz they luk big and not strong.
i hope u understand wat i mean to say
 
gurusevuppal said:
now the embrassing part:
weigh near 89 kg mark, 5'10
number from last week workout
squat : 87.5 * 8 reps
bench : 77.5 * 6 reps
deadlift : 92.5 *4 reps
rows : 65 * 5 reps
overhead dumbbell press: 52.5 * 9

well that covers nearly all the things

Why would you be embarrassed? Everyone was a novice at one point in their lifting careers. Looking at those numbers, I can't offer you a good specialized routine because you still need to build a strong base. The routines that I know of are for people who can squat at least 1.5 x their bodyweight olympic style. If you're not at that point, getting there through a good full body compound lift routine will build slabs of mass everywhere anyway, there is no need to specialize.
 
Mercere said:
Why would you be embarrassed? Everyone was a novice at one point in their lifting careers. Looking at those numbers, I can't offer you a good specialized routine because you still need to build a strong base. The routines that I know of are for people who can squat at least 1.5 x their bodyweight olympic style. If you're not at that point, getting there through a good full body compound lift routine will build slabs of mass everywhere anyway, there is no need to specialize.

but i am hitting pateau now. so thougth of changing things
 
gurusevuppal said:
but i am hitting pateau now. so thougth of changing things

you're already hitting plateau's with those lifts? Are you increasing the weight every workout day or once a week?
 
mad dipz said:
you're already hitting plateau's with those lifts? Are you increasing the weight every workout day or once a week?

used to increasre it every week but, now i am hitting sticking points.
 
al420 said:
Just put on some posing trunks, admit you are gay, and do some drop sets. I'll let BIll Star and Mark Rippetoe know you have decided against being strong.

"I feel sorry for your mother"

- Store Clerk in Menace 2 Society
dont be a dick bro not everyone has the same goals. if you disagree with his goals keep it to yourself. not everyones bodies and joins can naturally handle constant heavy weights like yours can, so if someone wants to be over avarage strength but fucking huge, respect it.

lack of respect is bullshit
 
When I'm looking to change things up I often go with HST- hypertrophy specific training. There's a link to it and to some journals kept here in the training info sticky.
I like it because it's still an overall body workout instead of doing traditional splits which I feel hammers the part but ignores the whole. The increased rep range is a relief but still requires you to give 100%.
 
fortunatesun said:
When I'm looking to change things up I often go with HST- hypertrophy specific training. There's a link to it and to some journals kept here in the training info sticky.
I like it because it's still an overall body workout instead of doing traditional splits which I feel hammers the part but ignores the whole. The increased rep range is a relief but still requires you to give 100%.

HST is very good advice, I agree.
 
gurusevuppal said:
bros seriously, suggest me a bodybuilding type workout plz !

Try this.

Monday - Legs/Lower back *Squat/deadlift
Tuesday - Chest/Abs *Bench
Wednesday - Upper Back/Forearms *barbell rows
Thursday - Shoulders/Traps *Military Press
Friday - Bis/Tris/Abs

It's similar to something I am doing right now. The excercise I put an asterisk by should be included in that days workout.

Monday is a bitch. You should really bust balls this day. You will be fresh from resting over the weekend. If you get through monday the rest of the week is cake. Friday is like a reward.

Notice I workout back on two days. I was trying to bring my back out more so I designed my workout this way. It is really difficult to hit everything in the back with full intensity all in one day. When I squat and do deadlifts I can feel it in my lower back so I went ahead and put these two excercises on the same day. It can be taxing but just push through it. Monday is usually the longest workout.
 
SublimeZM said:
dont be a dick bro not everyone has the same goals. if you disagree with his goals keep it to yourself. not everyones bodies and joins can naturally handle constant heavy weights like yours can, so if someone wants to be over avarage strength but fucking huge, respect it.

lack of respect is bullshit

thanks bro, for stikin up for me :)
 
SublimeZM said:
dont be a dick bro not everyone has the same goals. if you disagree with his goals keep it to yourself. not everyones bodies and joins can naturally handle constant heavy weights like yours can, so if someone wants to be over avarage strength but fucking huge, respect it.

lack of respect is bullshit

My body can handle load b/c I condition for it. Not b/c I have super joints/tendons. I ice my elbows, warm up properly, roll out my hips/glutes/IT band/quads/hammys daily. I stretch for 20+ minutes daily. I do what it really takes to be big and strong.

Sorry , but the majority of the 'peeps' posting on this interweb site are RIDING the gear... period.

Vanity in lifting is dangerous, and makes very little practical sense.

Lack of strength is bullshit. Lazy, lack of gratitude for the opportunity to train, and just plain silly. Compete at something, but if you don't please step back a few steps. It is just not the same.
 
al420 said:
My body can handle load b/c I condition for it. Not b/c I have super joints/tendons. I ice my elbows, warm up properly, roll out my hips/glutes/IT band/quads/hammys daily. I stretch for 20+ minutes daily. I do what it really takes to be big and strong.

Sorry , but the majority of the 'peeps' posting on this interweb site are RIDING the gear... period.

Vanity in lifting is dangerous, and makes very little practical sense.

Lack of strength is bullshit. Lazy, lack of gratitude for the opportunity to train, and just plain silly. Compete at something, but if you don't please step back a few steps. It is just not the same.
racist
 
Mercere said:
Chill guys, this thread is starting to bear towards Locksville.
he basically said he refuses to help this guy, and doesnt respect him because his goals are different.

dude shoulda just not even posted in the thread.

a lil rediculous
 
I am trying to help/save the original poster. How someone can find the fountain of youth (rippetoe) and still want to drink from a water fountain (drop sets) is beyond me.

He asked for advice. My advice was to stick with what was working. Add in some fluff work on Fridays or even have an 'arm' day on Saturday... fine.
 
Mercere said:
HST is very good advice, I agree.

I would echo this too. Go with HST for a few cycles (read up on it - you'll understand), then switch back to your 5x5.
 
Longevity and looking good will favor the wise lifter who realizes that Body is like a Ferrari
Not a Yellow Construction Dump Truck that once broken STAYS BROKEN

And by the way if you think a Bodybuilder who lifts for the look and much lighter cant rip off someone head if needed, you should look me up :)
 
I say experiment and stick with what works out best for you....everyone starts out as a novice, no one is born a bodybuilder....you just need to find out what works best for your body, at your level. Always remind yourself where you need to get...that always works out for me!
 
OMEGA said:
Longevity and looking good will favor the wise lifter who realizes that Body is like a Ferrari
Not a Yellow Construction Dump Truck that once broken STAYS BROKEN

Hey Omega, my old dump truck still halls the Asphalt -Top just fine,
Watch it bro ! lol
 
al420 said:
My body can handle load b/c I condition for it. Not b/c I have super joints/tendons. I ice my elbows, warm up properly, roll out my hips/glutes/IT band/quads/hammys daily. I stretch for 20+ minutes daily. I do what it really takes to be big and strong.

Sorry , but the majority of the 'peeps' posting on this interweb site are RIDING the gear... period.

Vanity in lifting is dangerous, and makes very little practical sense.

Lack of strength is bullshit. Lazy, lack of gratitude for the opportunity to train, and just plain silly. Compete at something, but if you don't please step back a few steps. It is just not the same.

what a stupid attitude, shows a lot of ignorance. I train like a bodybuilder, yet have posted strength vids on here that beat most guys on here that train as powerlifters(ie, 500lbs deadlift for 9 reps, totally raw, at a bodyweight of 210lbs)...
so I suppose the next comment would be that I am riding the gear, which is generally the cry of the jealous and/or ignorant. My deadlift vid was shot a few months after my first cycle, my first cycle being at age 27 after over 10 years of training...so unless steroids really are the miracle that the ignorant claim they are, then my results and lifts are the result of smart training, mostly as a bodybuilder, over a lot of years
 
needsize said:
what a stupid attitude, shows a lot of ignorance. I train like a bodybuilder, yet have posted strength vids on here that beat most guys on here that train as powerlifters(ie, 500lbs deadlift for 9 reps, totally raw, at a bodyweight of 210lbs)...
so I suppose the next comment would be that I am riding the gear, which is generally the cry of the jealous and/or ignorant. My deadlift vid was shot a few months after my first cycle, my first cycle being at age 27 after over 10 years of training...so unless steroids really are the miracle that the ignorant claim they are, then my results and lifts are the result of smart training, mostly as a bodybuilder, over a lot of years

Seems to me like we agree. You are strong, see value in it, etc.

Sorry if you don't like my attitude, but it is more of an opinion than a mantra.

The majority of the people on EF will never look like you. But they will post up their useless training advice, and they certainly ride their gear.

Your physique demands respect NS, so why you are taking my comments personally I am not sure.
 
al420 said:
Seems to me like we agree. You are strong, see value in it, etc.

Sorry if you don't like my attitude, but it is more of an opinion than a mantra.

The majority of the people on EF will never look like you. But they will post up their useless training advice, and they certainly ride their gear.

Your physique demands respect NS, so why you are taking my comments personally I am not sure.

I did see a lot of value in being strong, personally I find I spent too many years training that heavy, now my body is paying for it, I cant squat anymore, and I stopped deadlifting a while ago too....and funny thing is I am bigger now and have a better physique
I reacted because it felt like you were talking about bodybuilders in general, and all the ones I train with are beasts, training really heavy and brutally hard, and none of them rely on the gear alone....thats the last piece after food, training and rest...
 
needsize said:
I did see a lot of value in being strong, personally I find I spent too many years training that heavy, now my body is paying for it, I cant squat anymore, and I stopped deadlifting a while ago too....and funny thing is I am bigger now and have a better physique
I reacted because it felt like you were talking about bodybuilders in general, and all the ones I train with are beasts, training really heavy and brutally hard, and none of them rely on the gear alone....thats the last piece after food, training and rest...


You are bigger now b/c you put in your time doing the proper barbell work. Drop set's would not have build a good base - right?

My gear riding comment was for the typical EF user. Small, weak, no plan in the gym or kitchen... but on a Gram of Test and EQ (cause that is the new hot aas yo)

While our goals may differ we train/live relativly the same.

BTW - I do your ab routine as do several people in Texas that wanted to know how I got such "big" abs... So thanks!
 
al420 said:
You are bigger now b/c you put in your time doing the proper barbell work. Drop set's would not have build a good base - right?

My gear riding comment was for the typical EF user. Small, weak, no plan in the gym or kitchen... but on a Gram of Test and Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - (cause that is the new hot anabolic androgenic steroids yo)

While our goals may differ we train/live relativly the same.

BTW - I do your ab routine as do several people in Texas that wanted to know how I got such "big" abs... So thanks!

cool, sorry that I took that personally, on here its hard to tell when someone is taking a personal shot at you..and it happens a lot to me
I do agree that the heavy stuff built the base, but the "bodybuilding" type routines I have seen and used also build strength as well, just not as much as the powerlifting and bill starr type of programs
glad the ab thing works for you, I would hate to have to do it any other way... :)
 
To the original poster first of all, nothing you posted is "embarassing". Where you want to be is a goal and where you came from should be a source of pride.

You're not going to grow if you don't eat, end of discussion. If the scale isn't moving, then you aren't eating enough, no matter how much you "think" you eat.

At this stage in the game, you need to get better at big lifts. I wouldn't train with over 8 reps on a compound lift unless it is a back-off set at the end. When I say get stronger, I don't mean you need to lift a 1RM every day. You do need a routine that fosters consistent progress on big lifts in a 4-12 rep range. There really is no such thing as a "bodybuilding routine".....honestly, I can cringe when I see those words thrown around.

I can and will tell you that guys at your stage in the game generally make zero progress training to get sore, training for a pump, doing a new "routine" every week, and just blindly throwing 5 lbs of shit in a 10lb bag with no plan for progression.

A routine is not magic, it is a way to foster progress and is no more than a snap-shot in time (what works from Nov-Dec probably won't work from Jan-Mar and so on and so forth). You need a progress-oriented mindset though. Weight/Sets/Reps are variables to manipulate in order to guage progress.

It doesn't matter if you do 4 reps or 6 or 8 or 10 to be honest. Personally, I think 4-8 on compound lifts (maybe 8-12 on iso crap) is easier to progress with for most people....but if you're not doing pure neural work (max singles, doubles, and triples) and you're not doing muscle endurance work (12+ reps) then you should grow getting a better squat/bench/deadlift/military press/barbell row and getting better at chins and dips all in the 4-8 rep range so long as you eat enough.

Basically, if you squat 225 x 6 today and a year from now you squat 350 x 6 you're gonna be bigger in a year, there is no way around it provided you eat to caloric excess on a daily basis. That is how getting stronger is a way to grow. You've got a constant (the squat and we'll leave reps as a constant for the example).....you've got variables (food intake/weight used). Do the math and it should lead to a bigger and incidentally stronger you.

As far as a routine, just make progress. If you want something a little different that what you were doing, fine, just don't forget that progress is what matters.

Maybe....

Monday:

Flat Bench: 4 x 4-6 and a backoff set of 8-12
Incline Dumbells: 3x12
Barbell Curl: 4x6 and a backoff set of 8-12
Hammer Curl: 3x10

Tuesday:

Back Squat: 5x5 and a backoff set of 8-12
Front Squat: 3x8
Some shit for calves and abs

Thursday:
Military press :5x5 and a backoff of 8-12
Close-Grip Bench: 5x5 and a backoff of 8-12
Skullcrushers: 3x10-12

Friday:
Deadlift: 4x6
Barbell Rows: 4x8
Chins: 3 x as many as you can do

Thats just an example....but the point is to make progress on big lifts and EAT, not to clutter your routine with useless fluff and iso-work at this stage in the game. Whatever you want to call it..."bodybuilding", "powerbuilding", "powerlifting", "workin' out", I don't care, lol....just get better at it over time and that is all that matters. you should seriously grow and grow for a long time on a Bill Starr-style workout, though. Too many people have and too many people continue to for you to think you've done it right and are really stalled. Change a bit if you want, but it is all the same man, progressive overload and consistency and eating......if the 5x5 didn't work out for you, a change will likely lead to you being plateaued at this point again if you don't patch the hole (you either eat like shit, lift like shit, or both, lol)....seriously, man, I say this to encourage, not discourage. It's all the same shit when you read through the lines. If you're not adding 5 more lbs or at least 1 more rep the next workout, then you either did it long enough and need an adjustment, or more likely given your post, you did it wrong and need to use smarter weight selection and be more patient and/or eat more.

In my buddy Al's defense, what he is talking about is the average plateaued gym rat. Guys like that NEED to get strong at squats, pulls, and presses. If you look at most plateaued gym rats, their workouts usually consist of the "2-man Bench Press" and then an endless array of chest machines and flyes on Mon, lat pulldowns with 37 different attachments On Tues,and a curl and pressdown -fest to end the week, and they seem to all have 160lb geek bodies. They post on a board for "cycle advice" and take some gear and blow up to a whole whopping 170lbs, then stop taking the gear and because they have no clue how to train and eat go back down to 160lbs until their next cycle.

Lift big, eat big, and grow big.....if you want a BB as an example, Ronnie Coleman did it throughout his whole career.
 
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Nice post BiggT :artist:

BiggT said:
To the original poster first of all, nothing you posted is "embarassing". Where you want to be is a goal and where you came from should be a source of pride.

You're not going to grow if you don't eat, end of discussion. If the scale isn't moving, then you aren't eating enough, no matter how much you "think" you eat.

At this stage in the game, you need to get better at big lifts. I wouldn't train with over 8 reps on a compound lift unless it is a back-off set at the end. When I say get stronger, I don't mean you need to lift a 1RM every day. You do need a routine that fosters consistent progress on big lifts in a 4-12 rep range. There really is no such thing as a "bodybuilding routine".....honestly, I can cringe when I see those words thrown around.

I can and will tell you that guys at your stage in the game generally make zero progress training to get sore, training for a pump, doing a new "routine" every week, and just blindly throwing 5 lbs of shit in a 10lb bag with no plan for progression.

A routine is not magic, it is a way to foster progress and is no more than a snap-shot in time (what works from Nov-Dec probably won't work from Jan-Mar and so on and so forth). You need a progress-oriented mindset though. Weight/Sets/Reps are variables to manipulate in order to guage progress.

It doesn't matter if you do 4 reps or 6 or 8 or 10 to be honest. Personally, I think 4-8 on compound lifts (maybe 8-12 on iso crap) is easier to progress with for most people....but if you're not doing pure neural work (max singles, doubles, and triples) and you're not doing muscle endurance work (12+ reps) then you should grow getting a better squat/bench/deadlift/military press/barbell row and getting better at chins and dips all in the 4-8 rep range so long as you eat enough.

Basically, if you squat 225 x 6 today and a year from now you squat 350 x 6 you're gonna be bigger in a year, there is no way around it provided you eat to caloric excess on a daily basis. That is how getting stronger is a way to grow. You've got a constant (the squat and we'll leave reps as a constant for the example).....you've got variables (food intake/weight used). Do the math and it should lead to a bigger and incidentally stronger you.

As far as a routine, just make progress. If you want something a little different that what you were doing, fine, just don't forget that progress is what matters.

Maybe....

Monday:

Flat Bench: 4 x 4-6 and a backoff set of 8-12
Incline Dumbells: 3x12
Barbell Curl: 4x6 and a backoff set of 8-12
Hammer Curl: 3x10

Tuesday:

Back Squat: 5x5 and a backoff set of 8-12
Front Squat: 3x8
Some shit for calves and abs

Thursday:
Military press :5x5 and a backoff of 8-12
Close-Grip Bench: 5x5 and a backoff of 8-12
Skullcrushers: 3x10-12

Friday:
Deadlift: 4x6
Barbell Rows: 4x8
Chins: 3 x as many as you can do

Thats just an example....but the point is to make progress on big lifts and EAT, not to clutter your routine with useless fluff and iso-work at this stage in the game. Whatever you want to call it..."bodybuilding", "powerbuilding", "powerlifting", "workin' out", I don't care, lol....just get better at it over time and that is all that matters. you should seriously grow and grow for a long time on a Bill Starr-style workout, though. Too many people have and too many people continue to for you to think you've done it right and are really stalled. Change a bit if you want, but it is all the same man, progressive overload and consistency and eating......if the 5x5 didn't work out for you, a change will likely lead to you being plateaued at this point again if you don't patch the hole (you either eat like shit, lift like shit, or both, lol)....seriously, man, I say this to encourage, not discourage. It's all the same shit when you read through the lines. If you're not adding 5 more lbs or at least 1 more rep the next workout, then you either did it long enough and need an adjustment, or more likely given your post, you did it wrong and need to use smarter weight selection and be more patient and/or eat more.

In my buddy Al's defense, what he is talking about is the average plateaued gym rat. Guys like that NEED to get strong at squats, pulls, and presses. If you look at most plateaued gym rats, their workouts usually consist of the "2-man Bench Press" and then an endless array of chest machines and flyes on Mon, lat pulldowns with 37 different attachments On Tues,and a curl and pressdown -fest to end the week, and they seem to all have 160lb geek bodies. They post on a board for "cycle advice" and take some gear and blow up to a whole whopping 170lbs, then stop taking the gear and because they have no clue how to train and eat go back down to 160lbs until their next cycle.

Lift big, eat big, and grow big.....if you want a BB as an example, Ronnie Coleman did it throughout his whole career.
 
al420 said:
My body can handle load b/c I condition for it. Not b/c I have super joints/tendons. I ice my elbows, warm up properly, roll out my hips/glutes/IT band/quads/hammys daily. I stretch for 20+ minutes daily. I do what it really takes to be big and strong.

Sorry , but the majority of the 'peeps' posting on this interweb site are RIDING the gear... period.

Vanity in lifting is dangerous, and makes very little practical sense.

Lack of strength is bullshit. Lazy, lack of gratitude for the opportunity to train, and just plain silly. Compete at something, but if you don't please step back a few steps. It is just not the same.

mate, cant train every day like u guys
 
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al420 said:
I am trying to help/save the original poster. How someone can find the fountain of youth (rippetoe) and still want to drink from a water fountain (drop sets) is beyond me.

He asked for advice. My advice was to stick with what was working. Add in some fluff work on Fridays or even have an 'arm' day on Saturday... fine.

man, i did'nt said that i wanna do drop sets and seriously my goals are different than you, i am in uni and after that, i'll get a 9-5 job. so there's no point for me to go to powerlifter things. coz at end of day, i'll sit on my arse and do accounting all day.
 
OMEGA said:
Longevity and looking good will favor the wise lifter who realizes that Body is like a Ferrari
Not a Yellow Construction Dump Truck that once broken STAYS BROKEN

And by the way if you think a Bodybuilder who lifts for the look and much lighter cant rip off someone head if needed, you should look me up :)

thanks man, thats wat i am trying to say.
 
needsize said:
what a stupid attitude, shows a lot of ignorance. I train like a bodybuilder, yet have posted strength vids on here that beat most guys on here that train as powerlifters(ie, 500lbs deadlift for 9 reps, totally raw, at a bodyweight of 210lbs)...
so I suppose the next comment would be that I am riding the gear, which is generally the cry of the jealous and/or ignorant. My deadlift vid was shot a few months after my first cycle, my first cycle being at age 27 after over 10 years of training...so unless steroids really are the miracle that the ignorant claim they are, then my results and lifts are the result of smart training, mostly as a bodybuilder, over a lot of years

niece :)
 
BiggT said:
To the original poster first of all, nothing you posted is "embarassing". Where you want to be is a goal and where you came from should be a source of pride.

You're not going to grow if you don't eat, end of discussion. If the scale isn't moving, then you aren't eating enough, no matter how much you "think" you eat.

At this stage in the game, you need to get better at big lifts. I wouldn't train with over 8 reps on a compound lift unless it is a back-off set at the end. When I say get stronger, I don't mean you need to lift a 1RM every day. You do need a routine that fosters consistent progress on big lifts in a 4-12 rep range. There really is no such thing as a "bodybuilding routine".....honestly, I can cringe when I see those words thrown around.

I can and will tell you that guys at your stage in the game generally make zero progress training to get sore, training for a pump, doing a new "routine" every week, and just blindly throwing 5 lbs of shit in a 10lb bag with no plan for progression.

A routine is not magic, it is a way to foster progress and is no more than a snap-shot in time (what works from Nov-Dec probably won't work from Jan-Mar and so on and so forth). You need a progress-oriented mindset though. Weight/Sets/Reps are variables to manipulate in order to guage progress.

It doesn't matter if you do 4 reps or 6 or 8 or 10 to be honest. Personally, I think 4-8 on compound lifts (maybe 8-12 on iso crap) is easier to progress with for most people....but if you're not doing pure neural work (max singles, doubles, and triples) and you're not doing muscle endurance work (12+ reps) then you should grow getting a better squat/bench/deadlift/military press/barbell row and getting better at chins and dips all in the 4-8 rep range so long as you eat enough.

Basically, if you squat 225 x 6 today and a year from now you squat 350 x 6 you're gonna be bigger in a year, there is no way around it provided you eat to caloric excess on a daily basis. That is how getting stronger is a way to grow. You've got a constant (the squat and we'll leave reps as a constant for the example).....you've got variables (food intake/weight used). Do the math and it should lead to a bigger and incidentally stronger you.

As far as a routine, just make progress. If you want something a little different that what you were doing, fine, just don't forget that progress is what matters.

Maybe....

Monday:

Flat Bench: 4 x 4-6 and a backoff set of 8-12
Incline Dumbells: 3x12
Barbell Curl: 4x6 and a backoff set of 8-12
Hammer Curl: 3x10

Tuesday:

Back Squat: 5x5 and a backoff set of 8-12
Front Squat: 3x8
Some shit for calves and abs

Thursday:
Military press :5x5 and a backoff of 8-12
Close-Grip Bench: 5x5 and a backoff of 8-12
Skullcrushers: 3x10-12

Friday:
Deadlift: 4x6
Barbell Rows: 4x8
Chins: 3 x as many as you can do

Thats just an example....but the point is to make progress on big lifts and EAT, not to clutter your routine with useless fluff and iso-work at this stage in the game. Whatever you want to call it..."bodybuilding", "powerbuilding", "powerlifting", "workin' out", I don't care, lol....just get better at it over time and that is all that matters. you should seriously grow and grow for a long time on a Bill Starr-style workout, though. Too many people have and too many people continue to for you to think you've done it right and are really stalled. Change a bit if you want, but it is all the same man, progressive overload and consistency and eating......if the 5x5 didn't work out for you, a change will likely lead to you being plateaued at this point again if you don't patch the hole (you either eat like shit, lift like shit, or both, lol)....seriously, man, I say this to encourage, not discourage. It's all the same shit when you read through the lines. If you're not adding 5 more lbs or at least 1 more rep the next workout, then you either did it long enough and need an adjustment, or more likely given your post, you did it wrong and need to use smarter weight selection and be more patient and/or eat more.

In my buddy Al's defense, what he is talking about is the average plateaued gym rat. Guys like that NEED to get strong at squats, pulls, and presses. If you look at most plateaued gym rats, their workouts usually consist of the "2-man Bench Press" and then an endless array of chest machines and flyes on Mon, lat pulldowns with 37 different attachments On Tues,and a curl and pressdown -fest to end the week, and they seem to all have 160lb geek bodies. They post on a board for "cycle advice" and take some gear and blow up to a whole whopping 170lbs, then stop taking the gear and because they have no clue how to train and eat go back down to 160lbs until their next cycle.

Lift big, eat big, and grow big.....if you want a BB as an example, Ronnie Coleman did it throughout his whole career.


thnks for that, firstly abt weight, its going up a bit slowly but its moving now i weigh abt 93.7 kg. mate, i am making progress but really slowly and got u where u comin frm. all i was trying to say is if a person gets stronger over core exercises than he should grow. i am not big guy but i can easily smash so called 'big guys' in my gym coz they never do basic core work like deads, rows, squats. 5x5 really helped me to get stronger over time. but at end of day, appearance matters over ability. if a person does not luk big, than is assumed that he is not strong.

anyways, thnks for that, really appreciate.

btw, started Max-OT five weeks ago and here my numbers
frm last week

squat : 95.5 * 5 reps
bench : 82.5 * 4 reps
deadlift : 97.5 *6 reps
rows : 67.5 * 4 reps
overhead dumbbell press: 55 * 6

now lukin than bigger than before and chicks dig it. hehe :)
 
Good luck with whatever you decide to do....as long as you know what your goals are and where you are going, then thats all that matters...at the end of the day, what matters is if you are satisfied with your body or you're not....who cares about what others think of you....as long as you're happy with the way you look then thats all that matters...
 
The_Alcatraz said:
Good luck with whatever you decide to do....as long as you know what your goals are and where you are going, then thats all that matters...at the end of the day, what matters is if you are satisfied with your body or you're not....who cares about what others think of you....as long as you're happy with the way you look then thats all that matters...

thanks bro!
 
gurusevuppal said:
now the embrassing part:
weigh near 89 kg mark, 5'10
number from last week workout
squat : 87.5 * 8 reps
bench : 77.5 * 6 reps
deadlift : 92.5 *4 reps
rows : 65 * 5 reps
overhead dumbbell press: 52.5 * 9

well that covers nearly all the things


First off.................NEVER BE ASHAMED OF HOW MUCH YOU CAN LIFT!

We all have to start of somewhere. With proper diet and training you can achieve your goals. And never let someone stop you from achieving them. Your stats aren't embarassing, they are real. You have helped yourself out much more by posting real stats. There are many people that will lie about what they can lift, which makes no sense at all. If you are bodybuilding its not how much you can lift, its how much you can control when you lift. Don't get into the losing form for weight, thats when you can get injured and also hinder possible gains. With proper diet and exercise your strength will increase. As for you question about bodybuilder routines try to buy some magazines like muscle and fitness and flex. They tend to have great sample routines and articles where you can learn a lot about stuff. Even search for training routines online. Try a few and see what works for you. Listen to your body as everyone's reacts differently. I seriously haven't trained arms in a year because they grow ridiculously fast. I don't know why but they just do (wish I had that problem with my calves lol) But once you find out what works for you just stay determined and don't skip days or meals and really focus on your goals thats when you will be able to obtain them.
 
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