look what this sick demented evil bitch did......

[NJjuice22]

this happened 5 blocks from my house.

http://www.nj.com/news/jjournal/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1126689193258120.xml&coll=3

"Investigators believe Ventura delivered the baby boy sometime about 7 a.m., cut the umbilical cord and then dropped the baby down the air shaft. About 30 minutes later, police arrived at the building, on 64th Street between Hudson and Palisade avenues, after a resident reported hearing nonstop wailing from an infant. "

Yes thats right...the bitch delivered the baby in her apartment herself , cut the cord and threw her down the garbage shaft..what a sick twisted person.

 

[Evil_Frisky]

That is just horrible.

 

[dahamn]

That is unimaginable

 

[RADAR]

They need to sew her up to prevent anymore stupid reproducing.


Even better throw her in a nasty jail cell (comparable to the trash disposal) and leave her there.

RADAR

 

[*MissFit*]

it's sad what ppl do now adays

 

[jnevin]

They should sterilize her and lock her up with violent sex offenders.

 

[Raina]

Absolutely sickening.

 

[SoKlueles]

omg thats horrible

 

[-SD-]

Welcome to the culmination of a disposable society. Yawn.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

I am sure she is dirt poor. Does she receive government assistance?

Just like a lot of the new orleans peeps who were left stranded.

And yet, people opposed me when i said Katrina was a cleaning event. Not everyone can handle the demands of life. It's just that simple. What we need to do is STOP reaching out to these people. STOP throwing money at irresolvable problems.

 

[-SD-]

Not everyone can handle the demands of life.

Harsh but true. Lots of wastes of space that cause a drag effect on society as a whole.

 

[jnevin]

I am sure she is dirt poor. Does she receive government assistance?

Just like a lot of the new orleans peeps who were left stranded.

And yet, people opposed me when i said Katrina was a cleaning event. Not everyone can handle the demands of life. It's just that simple. What we need to do is STOP reaching out to these people. STOP throwing money at irresolvable problems.

Yeah. But then they'll steal more. Because they actually need it instead of want it. Not that I don't agree.

I suppose we could ship all poor trash to Haiti or Cuba.

 

[bb079]

kill the bitch now......

 

[randk]

I am sure she is dirt poor. Does she receive government assistance?

Just like a lot of the new orleans peeps who were left stranded.

And yet, people opposed me when i said Katrina was a cleaning event. Not everyone can handle the demands of life. It's just that simple. What we need to do is STOP reaching out to these people. STOP throwing money at irresolvable problems.

I am assuming she did NOT receive gov assistance or they woulda known she was going to have a baby so she wouldnt have tried to dispose of it (besides, cant get aid for a baby thats dead) and just to clarify...is it the mother we should stop trying to help or the baby? or both?

 

[bb079]

this shit is simply the work of the devil. i lost my newborn son not long ago and would kill to get him back. and to hear this shit makes me so mad that my hands start to shake.

 

[jnevin]

this shit is simply the work of the devil. i lost my newborn son not long ago and would kill to get him back. and to hear this shit makes me so mad that my hands start to shake.

Sorry to hear that bro.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

I am assuming she did NOT receive gov assistance or they woulda known she was going to have a baby so she wouldnt have tried to dispose of it (besides, cant get aid for a baby thats dead) and just to claify...is it the mother we should stop trying to help or the baby? or both?

You're assuming too much in support of your own view. Let's use a basic set of facts:

The overwhelming majority of these things happen among poor people, so we can conclude poverty here.

Ever read "the bell curve"? One unwavering conclusion: poverty is usually the result of low intelligence. That's hard to debate, and the book presents a mountain of evidence to support it. Some exceptions, like disability, also are a cause.

So, low intelligence is obvious here, no? Keep in mind that the woman threw away her newborn.

If low intelligence is the root cause of poverty, then there is nothing we can do to eliminate poverty. Trillions of dollars spent on "poverty" have not made a dent, so, it is safe to say that poverty is here as long as low intelligence is here.

Do you disagree with any of this?

So, back to NO. Most of the better educated were not harmed by the storm, and if they were, they have insurance, they'll get back on their feet. The overwhelming majority of those evacuated were very poor, and possessed low intelligence.

Hurricane Katrina is an act of nature. Nature cares little for the individual, but a lot for a species. Natural events result in keeping the population where it is best for additional development.

if Nature is targeting the poor (low intelligence) for removal, why are we fighting that effort? We can never win.

 

[randk]

You're assuming too much in support of your own view. Let's use a basic set of facts:

The overwhelming majority of these things happen among poor people, so we can conclude poverty here.

Ever read "the bell curve"? One unwavering conclusion: poverty is usually the result of low intelligence. That's hard to debate, and the book presents a mountain of evidence to support it. Some exceptions, like disability, also are a cause.

So, low intelligence is obvious here, no? Keep in mind that the woman threw away her newborn.

If low intelligence is the root cause of poverty, then there is nothing we can do to eliminate poverty. Trillions of dollars spent on "poverty" have not made a dent, so, it is safe to say that poverty is here as long as low intelligence is here.

Do you disagree with any of this?

So, back to NO. Most of the better educated were not harmed by the storm, and if they were, they have insurance, they'll get back on their feet. The overwhelming majority of those evacuated were very poor, and possessed low intelligence.

Hurricane Katrina is an act of nature. Nature cares little for the individual, but a lot for a species. Natural events result in keeping the population where it is best for additional development.

if Nature is targeting the poor (low intelligence) for removal, why are we fighting that effort? We can never win.

ooops...I must have tripped into the "they deserved it: katrina" thread when I thought I was in the "demented bitch" thread, my bad

 

[jnevin]

You're assuming too much in support of your own view. Let's use a basic set of facts:

The overwhelming majority of these things happen among poor people, so we can conclude poverty here.

Ever read "the bell curve"? One unwavering conclusion: poverty is usually the result of low intelligence. That's hard to debate, and the book presents a mountain of evidence to support it. Some exceptions, like disability, also are a cause.

So, low intelligence is obvious here, no? Keep in mind that the woman threw away her newborn.

If low intelligence is the root cause of poverty, then there is nothing we can do to eliminate poverty. Trillions of dollars spent on "poverty" have not made a dent, so, it is safe to say that poverty is here as long as low intelligence is here.

Do you disagree with any of this?

So, back to NO. Most of the better educated were not harmed by the storm, and if they were, they have insurance, they'll get back on their feet. The overwhelming majority of those evacuated were very poor, and possessed low intelligence.

Hurricane Katrina is an act of nature. Nature cares little for the individual, but a lot for a species. Natural events result in keeping the population where it is best for additional development.

if Nature is targeting the poor (low intelligence) for removal, why are we fighting that effort? We can never win.

Go eat a taco ya whore.

 

[AAP]

Women have been throwing away babies for years. No big surprise here. Their so called reasons are never worthy of spitting on them. In some cases the women are borderline retarded and have no clue to what they have just done. Or they are scared. Or they don't want their parents to know (i.e. teenagers). The worst kinds are the wives who don't want their husbands to know simply because they already know it is another man's baby.

I used to wonder how people could hide their pregnancy to the extend that they wouldn't be suspicious to other people when all of a sudden the belly is flat but there is no baby around. I used to think it was fat women. Nowdays the women just tell their friends that the baby was still born.

Stupid people.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

ooops...I must have tripped into the "they deserved it: katrina" thread when I thought I was in the "demented bitch" thread, my bad

It's not that poor people deserve this, rather, that this is a natural way to remove from the population those who are clearly dragging it down.

When nature is giving us one message over and over, why why defy it?

Feel free to stick your head back in the sand.

 

[bb079]

her intelligence is of no consiquence, because she obviously has none. but you can bet your ass that she will plea noy guilty by reason of insanity. she would have to have been insane but fuck that, kill her. there is no reasoning that can substantiate this.

 

[velvett]

ooops...I must have tripped into the "they deserved it: katrina" thread when I thought I was in the "demented bitch" thread, my bad

I had the same problem.

 

[randk]

It's not that poor people deserve this, rather, that this is a natural way to remove from the population those who are clearly dragging it down.

When nature is giving us one message over and over, why why defy it?

Feel free to stick your head back in the sand.

and the earth quakes in california are nature targeting...the tan?

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

and the earth quakes in california are nature targeting...the tan?

CA is way overcrowded.

Earthquakes will thin the herd.

People know the risks. Still they move there. You tell me what's going on.

 

[NJjuice22]

I am sure she is dirt poor. Does she receive government assistance?

Just like a lot of the new orleans peeps who were left stranded.

And yet, people opposed me when i said Katrina was a cleaning event. Not everyone can handle the demands of life. It's just that simple. What we need to do is STOP reaching out to these people. STOP throwing money at irresolvable problems.

she was 17 and lived with her mom...the buidling they live in is not nice...but its not the ghetto. i think it was more of her not wanting her mom to find out...i mean she was pregnant for 9 months and didnt let her mom know.

 

[randk]

CA is way overcrowded.

Earthquakes will thin the herd.

People know the risks. Still they move there. You tell me what's going on.

okay now I am a part of highjacking this thread, sorry. before we get back to the demented evil bitch, earth quakes hapen all over, I shouldnt have chosen california. and then there are tornados, flooding, fire (natural not man made) are you saying that no mater the desaster we should just say "oh well, mother nature knows best" and turn away? how far evolved would we be if mankind had had that atitude all along?

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

okay now I am a part of highjacking this thread, sorry. before we get back to the demented evil bitch, earth quakes hapen all over, I shouldnt have chosen california. and then there are tornados, flooding, fire (natural not man made) are you saying that no mater the desaster we should just say "oh well, mother nature knows best" and turn away? how far evolved would we be if mankind had had that atitude all along?

What are you missing here?

Whatever our attitude is toward nature does not matter. Nature always corrects man when man acts in a manner not conducive to propagation of the species.

Isn't this like CRYSTAL clear?

I am saying simply that when we try to do things counter to Nature, we have worse problems. Bending over backwards to help people with low intelligence is unnatural. Katrina showed us how that works.

I thought this was clear. Sorry if I was not. I still don't know what your point is.

 

[Lestat]

that is insane. If she was going to do that she could have at least killed the baby first instead of leaving it alive in the trash.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

That's one tough mutha-chucker, and that's one tough baby!!

 

[chrisoh]

she should've just made it easier on everyone and aborted the bastard.

 

[velvett]

What she should have done was bring the baby to the nearest hospital, firehouse or police station.

But that's just not the first thing of on the mind of a clearly desperate CHILD.

Unfortunately people just don't think at times and that is an affliction of the educated, uneducated, the poor, the middle class, and the uber wealthy. The beauty of money is that you can hire someone to make all your problem go away and you don't even have to tap into that education to "get the job done".

If anyone actually gives a shit take some time and look into the dumpster baby phenomenon.

 

[Sub-Zero]

I am sure she is dirt poor. Does she receive government assistance?

Just like a lot of the new orleans peeps who were left stranded.

And yet, people opposed me when i said Katrina was a cleaning event. Not everyone can handle the demands of life. It's just that simple. What we need to do is STOP reaching out to these people. STOP throwing money at irresolvable problems.

i agree to an extent, but thats still a fucked up thing to say...

 

[Sub-Zero]

if Nature is targeting the poor (low intelligence) for removal, why are we fighting that effort? We can never win.

darwinism, but your still a dickhead.

 

[BrothaBill]

its the same as an abortion, who cares

 

[gotmilk]

I have a M4 and 500 rounds I can loan her neighbors

 

[big4life]

I am beginning to agree with Matt.

Payne Stewart's death in a plane crash. It was nature's way of telling us there are too many golfers in funny pants, and too many private jets.

John Lennon's death by a crazed fan. It was nature's way of ridding the world of the excess of talented musicians.

John and Bobby Kennedy were taken because of the excess of caring politicians.

I would say something about those who have died in wars, and the people who died in 9/11, but I can't out of respect for them and their lives. It bothered me to mention the four I did, because of the respect I have for them. My point is if one incident is caused because it was nature's way then all events can be dealt with in the same manner. To use the excuse "it's nature's way" not only trivializes their death, but also their life, and that is the ultimate in disrespect.

And since everything is the result of being part of "nature's way" then we should just open up all the jails because nobody is guilty. It wasn't me your honor, it was nature's way.

 

[biteme]

Women have been throwing away babies for years. No big surprise here. Their so called reasons are never worthy of spitting on them. In some cases the women are borderline retarded and have no clue to what they have just done. Or they are scared. Or they don't want their parents to know (i.e. teenagers). The worst kinds are the wives who don't want their husbands to know simply because they already know it is another man's baby.

I used to wonder how people could hide their pregnancy to the extend that they wouldn't be suspicious to other people when all of a sudden the belly is flat but there is no baby around. I used to think it was fat women. Nowdays the women just tell their friends that the baby was still born.

Stupid people.

After 40 years of living, my view of women in general has changed. THey are as evil if not more evil than men.

 

[Razorguns]

She's poor. She's from the ghetto. That i can safely assume.

Why are we surprised what happens out of there? Haven't we experienced enough decades of self-defeating behavior, crime, gangs, dropouts and violence to realize that nothing is below these people?

Only reason i see these articles "waking up" people is because most of the behaviour there is condoned or rationalized by the hippe liberalist crowd and unfortunately, this incident can't fall into that category. And since it can't be rationalized like everything else -- we're apalled.

Simply because we can't find a way to "blame the man" for a woman killing her baby.

 

[buffer1]

sick cunt,they should cut her head off

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

I am beginning to agree with Matt.

Payne Stewart's death in a plane crash. It was nature's way of telling us there are too many golfers in funny pants, and too many private jets.

John Lennon's death by a crazed fan. It was nature's way of ridding the world of the excess of talented musicians.

John and Bobby Kennedy were taken because of the excess of caring politicians.

I would say something about those who have died in wars, and the people who died in 9/11, but I can't out of respect for them and their lives. It bothered me to mention the four I did, because of the respect I have for them. My point is if one incident is caused because it was nature's way then all events can be dealt with in the same manner. To use the excuse "it's nature's way" not only trivializes their death, but also their life, and that is the ultimate in disrespect.

And since everything is the result of being part of "nature's way" then we should just open up all the jails because nobody is guilty. It wasn't me your honor, it was nature's way.

Wow, impressive...in your ignorance.

It must be tough to go through life with your head down in the sand, unable to produce anything cogent to say, preferring a reductionist mentality, enabling you to feel good about a position to which you cling out of emotional attachment rather than logical conclusions.

You did almost get something right, though and that's a start. I am not trivializing the life or death of anyone. I am merely pointing out that they trivialize their own lives.

Relativism and reductionalism. Two words for stupidity, two examples of the absence of logical thought.

Carry on sir.

 

[DJ_UFO]

Are you guys surprised of things like this between 6,300,000 of humans? I'm not. And prepare for the worst.

 

[big4life]

Wow, impressive...in your ignorance.

It must be tough to go through life with your head down in the sand, unable to produce anything cogent to say, preferring a reductionist mentality, enabling you to feel good about a position to which you cling out of emotional attachment rather than logical conclusions.

You did almost get something right, though and that's a start. I am not trivializing the life or death of anyone. I am merely pointing out that they trivialize their own lives.

Relativism and reductionalism. Two words for stupidity, two examples of the absence of logical thought.

Carry on sir.

You can keep looking at life by cold hard numbers and I'll stick with my way of looking at life, with emotion, and compassion.


Notice I didn't have to use words like stupid or ignorance.

 

[BrothaBill]

sick cunt,they should cut her head off

Interesting. yet you are prochoice and progun. Wtf is the difference drawn as far as a woman is pregnant whether to kill the bastard or not?? I dont give two shits for life but for logic can someone please explain to me that killing a baby two inches out of the birth canal with a pair of scissors being rammed up into cncontrol while three seconds later, she's a murdering cunt. I look through tissue doing ultrasound and I could see the face with technology now,. whether it is a pretty boy or not. Some might say, his cheek structure is all wrong, next.... I mean who draws the lines on whats right and wrong and who should enforce that?? Im not smart enough to figure it out , are you. Please dont cutnpaste, in your own words why abortion should be performed?? Again, not a huge issue for me, but its a human rights issue so I guess I should pay attn now and again.

 

[JayC9]

If Nature is targeting the poor (low intelligence) for removal, why are we fighting that effort? We can never win.

Are you saying affirmative action is not always beneficial? What's the other option?

Nature, natural disasters, acts of god whatever you call it do not discriminate between persons of higher or lower intelligence just as the sun shines on both the righteous and the unrighteous the wealthy and the poor.

Taking the equation 'wealth = choice' then 'poverty is usually the result of low intelligence' can also be flipped to say that 'low intelligence is usually the result of poverty,' it's a chicken and egg theory.

What solutions does the Bell Curve offer?

 

[pintoca]

Bring old sparky back... this bitch needs to ride the lightning

 

[HiDnGoD]

CA is way overcrowded. Earthquakes will thin the herd.
People know the risks. Still they move there. You tell me what's going on.

Y'know what I think it is? It's us. We're a parasite on the face of the planet & nature is trying to pick us off. It's actually trying to target the rich, but the poor keep acting like a buffer & getting in the way.
Just because you may have motivation & intelligence coming out of your ass doesn't minimize the value of those less fortunate. I've found in many cases, that the poor are actually better human beings than the rich. Nicer, more giving. They'd give you the shirt off their back, while a richer person will walk right by & ignore you.
Matt, you seem so quick to condemn those who are less fortunate, or less motivated. What if people are happy in their paradigm? I'm relatively happy where I am. I'm certainly not rich, but I'm not willing to sacrifice in my life what I would have to, to get more wealth. My focus is different from yours. Does that make me a bad person? Since my net worth is less than 1/4 mill, does that mean I should be in line for the next Katrina? Maybe I should just kill myself since I am so unworthy, & save mother nature the effort. But, who would fix the machines in your factory?
Hmmmm, dilemma.
Regarding this 'woman'. She is either pure evil, or mentally ill. Who knows what pressure she was under. That doesn't excuse what she did, but it may explain it. Those of you who have never been a victim of mental illness, or known someone who has are awfully quick to condemn.
Consider: This woman, girl really, has gone through the hormomal upheaval that everyone knows as adolescence, plus pregnancy. Like I said, I don't, in any way, condone what she did, but she cannot be mentally well if she did something like that.

 

[HiDnGoD]

My red K message to MTS.
I notice your posts always hilight the 'fact' that the person you are responding to is less intelligent than you. And you always assume that your statements are infallible facts when they are only your views based on your perception of life.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

My red K message to MTS.
I notice your posts always hilight the 'fact' that the person you are responding to is less intelligent than you. And you always assume that your statements are infallible facts when they are only your views based on your perception of life.

Bor,

I call them like I see them. I have seen what works for me and observed many people destroying themselves while wondering why they can never get ahead.

We can disagree, it's no big thing.

 

[HiDnGoD]

Bor, I call them like I see them. I have seen what works for me and observed many people destroying themselves while wondering why they can never get ahead.
We can disagree, it's no big thing.

True, we each see things from our own perspectives. And you're right, that's no big thing. What galled me though, is the way you denigrate those whose opinions differ from yours. You call them like you see them. Well, the rest of us do that too. Doesn't mean we're absolutely wrong, & it doesn't mean you're absolutely wrong. But you must admit there are no absolutes in life. Everything is shades of grey, therefore your view encompasses a small bit of that spectrum, as does mine, & Subzm, & everyone else on here.

 

[Cutiebaby]

definitaly sickning

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

True, we each see things from our own perspectives. And you're right, that's no big thing. What galled me though, is the way you denigrate those whose opinions differ from yours. You call them like you see them. Well, the rest of us do that too. Doesn't mean we're absolutely wrong, & it doesn't mean you're absolutely wrong. But you must admit there are no absolutes in life. Everything is shades of grey, therefore your view encompasses a small bit of that spectrum, as does mine, & Subzm, & everyone else on here.

Actions are absolute. They are done and they fade into the past, unchangeable and forever, leaving us only with their consequences.

Too often we set ourselves back when we try to rationalize actions. We ask "why?" too often, when we should just "do".

 

[HiDnGoD]

Actions are absolute.

I agree. That is why I believe everyone should be accountable for their actions.
However.

Too often we set ourselves back when we try to rationalize actions. We ask "why?" too often, when we should just "do".

Using this woman/child as an example. She should be punished to the full extent of the law. I would also consider rendering her infertile. But we can't just punish & forget. It behooves us to figure out why she did that, to help others avoid the same situation, and to treat her illness if it is that.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

I agree. That is why I believe everyone should be accountable for their actions.
However.

Using this woman/child as an example. She should be punished to the full extent of the law. I would also consider rendering her infertile. But we can't just punish & forget. It behooves us to figure out why she did that, to help others avoid the same situation, and to treat her illness if it is that.

Seeking to understand barbarism only legitimizes it, and all the understanding doesn't change the past. The future only changes through action: imprisonment, infertility, destruction prevents this from happening again, not pills. If understanding "why" people do things is so important, why don't we solve the crime problem and all related issues?

 

[milo hobgoblin]

Ever read "the bell curve"?

ahh yes.. one of my favorite books. Whole lotta liberals hate that book with a passion.

 

[canadianhitman]

Ok, so much going on in this thread, I'm only going to weigh in on a few items:

1. The intelligence argument: I'm with MTS on this 100%. And I'm not talking about 'book smarts' intelligence either, I'm talking about basic common sense intelligence. Anyone with a shred of intelligence who didn't have a moral obligation (police, firefighters, doctors, nurses, ect) to remain behind should have got the fuck out of New Orleans as soon as Katrina hit Cat 4. You know that New Orleans was only designed to cope with a strong Cat 2 or a mid Cat 3, so Cat 4 should have been synonymous with 'run for the F'ing hills!' Now, you're always gonna have a few idiots who think they're tougher than the average joe and will be able to ride it out, but even these should have ran for their lives when it hit Cat 5. Anyone left in the city who isn't an 'essential services' worker, or was physically incapable of leaving, should have been left to die, because all they did was waste millions in rescue/shelter dollars that could have gone to take care of the sensible evacuees and towards rebuilding. {{And all you bleeding hearts who are going to gripe on this can kiss my ass in advance.}}

2. I think social assistance needs to be trimmed WAAAAAY the fuck back, to the point where it is a very unattractive option...certainly not something you can survive on generation after generation.

3. Forced sterilization for anyone who commits an act of child negligence, serious abuse, or abandonment should be drafted into law.

 

[Steve The Bluesman]

18 and a junior in HS? Sounds like a mensa member...


Bluesman

 

[MasterBates]

I love dumb sluts these days, they jump a million cocks and every single one of them wishes some day a prince will come her way

you are what you eat and what you do nothing more. You do stupid shit on daily basis you will eventually pay the consequences.