I hear people giving him credit for being better than the average couch potato. However the reason I find humor in him is that he is the most famous of the vegan bodybuilders...He is their Ronny Coleman, or their Jay Cutler. He has the audacity to say the entire bodybuilding community has it wrong. Yet he still wants to associate himself with it. For that he is a fucking clown shoe. It would warm my heart if he were kidnapped and forced to ingest live baboon ass. If he was an average Joe, no story here at all, congrats on the just below average physique. Alas he is supposed to be the best they have to offer...for this reason I scoff at vegan "bodybuilders". Just my 2 cents.