Long Cycle, ENTIRE Winter, Posted from earlier thread

[Indy]

Ok, bro's here is first draft of my "ALL WINTER" long cycle. I plan on staying on until the break of spring with is about 26 weeks. Orals are broke out, anti-e's are included where needed, final 6 weeks are fast acting compounds to allow to go right into PCT........IFG-1 while not mentioned will be used thru entire cycle 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off If some intelligent decisions can be made, by all means bring it up.

It's attached to this thread in a zipped up .xls file, or you can download here.

CHECK IT OUT HERE

 

[bw1]

It will be a good one, good luck!

 

[informed09]

Looks awsome but damn thats got to be exspensive!

 

[Indy]

Looks awsome but damn thats got to be exspensive!

All in stock and ready to rock !

 

[dr_skier]

Question why the Primo/Var/EQ 10 weeker before the sust/deca 10 weeker? Not flaming, just curious.

 

[jacked clown]

What would happen if someone in Alaska did a all winter cycle!!

 

[crunkjuice]

Indy I know that you got the information when it comes to Primo,... I mean shit your at the Primo Depot right? I am curious why in the first 10 weeks you do 2 primo shots with only a day in between, couldnt blood levels be kept more consistant throughout the cycle if you did your shots on Monday and Friday for the primo? giving 3 days then a shot then 2 days then a shot? For Primo is it more effective in your opinion to have a consistant level in the system, or to have spikes where there is a period in a week that is heavy and a period that is light?

other than that... looks like fun! but like informed said its a bit too rich for my blood hah

 

[Indy]

Question why the Primo/Var/EQ 10 weeker before the sust/deca 10 weeker? Not flaming, just curious.

For a break on my body, I know it looks strange but I am finishing up a test/deca cycle now that will run right into a milder primo cycle.

 

[Indy]

Indy I know that you got the information when it comes to Primo,... I mean shit your at the Primo Depot right? I am curious why in the first 10 weeks you do 2 primo shots with only a day in between, couldnt blood levels be kept more consistant throughout the cycle if you did your shots on Monday and Friday for the primo? giving 3 days then a shot then 2 days then a shot? For Primo is it more effective in your opinion to have a consistant level in the system, or to have spikes where there is a period in a week that is heavy and a period that is light?

other than that... looks like fun! but like informed said its a bit too rich for my blood hah

You're looking too hard to find flaws.... nothing more. 100mg/ml up to a gram a week, how much you going to shoot at once....therefore minimum 3 shots of primo ALONE just to get it into your body comfortably, it's not a blood level thing, it an alot of oil thing, nobody seems to understand that.

 

[DannoMight]

it looks like a winner to me bro. good luck.

 

[satchboogie]

INDY has an interesting theory goin here which i think will work well...

changing steroids after 10-12 weeks can be quite affective..
in fact, i know some pros who stay on year long and strongly believe that by changing steroids, the body continues to make gains.

the only downfall here is the body doesnt have time to get test levels back to normal.. but in INDY's case thats not a concern as he's been clipped down there.. lmfao!!!!! ok bro i couldnt resist... lmfao!!!!

anyhow back to the point...
so by starting a primo/var cycle blood pressure and cholesterol will remain normal... thats a key factor as health, after all, is #1.
but good gains to be expected..
then he stops primo/var and hits up a heavier cycle...

that should shock the body and allow for even more gains...

bro all power to you..
i never tried this approach but it could be a huge breakthrough...
keep us udpated!!!

 

[ortiz34]

Looks good bro, and we know you'll keep us posted.

Looking pretty jacked in those pictures too, wouldn't want those arms to lower the boom on my arse.

 

[markshark]

i hope i become a lawyer one day so i can do a cycle like that.

 

[wayneboard1]

Ok, bro's here is first draft of my "ALL WINTER" long cycle. I plan on staying on until the break of spring with is about 26 weeks. Orals are broke out, anti-e's are included where needed, final 6 weeks are fast acting compounds to allow to go right into PCT........IFG-1 while not mentioned will be used thru entire cycle 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off If some intelligent decisions can be made, by all means bring it up.

It's attached to this thread in a zipped up .xls file, or you can download here.

CHECK IT OUT HERE

WOW. I bet this is going tobe a fun ride man. So do you have any specific goals with this? I mean a end of the run BF% or LMM gain of so many lbs or what?

I liked satches post on how this will really shock your body and am very interested to see what your body does with each new compound as you progress along. I'm excited and I'm not even running the cycle! lol

 

[trinidad]

Indy, my only concern would be that you're running test for 16 wks. straight, along with deca for 10 wks of that and tren for 6. Might affect recovery?/ If the primo/var/eq cycle was in the middle I think it would be ideal. I know you're running hcg every 6 wks., just thought it might make a difference. Or....since I see you're coming off of a deca/test cycle now, what about 6-8 wks. primo....then deca/test...then another 6-8 primo...then end with prop/tren ace?? Just a thought

 

[Indy]

Indy, my only concern would be that you're running test for 16 wks. straight, along with deca for 10 wks of that and tren for 6. Might affect recovery?/ If the primo/var/eq cycle was in the middle I think it would be ideal. I know you're running hcg every 6 wks., just thought it might make a difference. Or....since I see you're coming off of a deca/test cycle now, what about 6-8 wks. primo....then deca/test...then another 6-8 primo...then end with prop/tren ace?? Just a thought

GOOD IDEA, I like it. Broke up the cycles abit, reposted the new spreadsheets, let me know what ya think.

 

[Indy]

WOW. I bet this is going tobe a fun ride man. So do you have any specific goals with this? I mean a end of the run BF% or LMM gain of so many lbs or what?

I liked satches post on how this will really shock your body and am very interested to see what your body does with each new compound as you progress along. I'm excited and I'm not even running the cycle! lol

Just want size and thickness right now, carrying over 200lbs is tough for me being 5'7" on a good day so I want to shatter that, and carry it around with me everywhere I go

 

[GeneticFreak18]

ever consider time off? thats far too many weeks to run anything. Your only hurting yourself, unless your a pro theres no reason to be on more than 4-6 months out of the year.

 

[GeneticFreak18]

time off is a beautiful thing b/c it gives you just that "time" you need time to clean out your receptors bro, your throwing so much shit into your body and the sad part is your not gonna get use out of it all. I'd take 3 to 4 months off from your last cycle and hit this one for 10-12 weeks. you'll get better gains then the way your going to do it right now.

 

[trinidad]

GOOD IDEA, I like it. Broke up the cycles abit, reposted the new spreadsheets, let me know what ya think.

Wow!!That looks awesome! I like that! I'm envious.....

 

[Indy]

ever consider time off? thats far too many weeks to run anything. Your only hurting yourself, unless your a pro theres no reason to be on more than 4-6 months out of the year.

Yea bro, that's what next year is for, experimenting thru this new shit I disovered moving here from Florida, it's called Winter. I DONT LIKE IT. Gear it up until the sun comes out, plenty of time to rest later.

 

[wayneboard1]

Just want size and thickness right now, carrying over 200lbs is tough for me being 5'7" on a good day so I want to shatter that, and carry it around with me everywhere I go

Thats AWESOME. You are gonna take pics right?

 

[trinidad]

Yea bro, that's what next year is for, experimenting thru this new shit I disovered moving here from Florida, it's called Winter. I DONT LIKE IT. Gear it up until the sun comes out, plenty of time to rest later.

Hahaha! I hear ya. Where are you at now? I'm in Pa. so I know about winters, too

 

[Indy]

Hahaha! I hear ya. Where are you at now? I'm in Pa. so I know about winters, too

OH

 

[Indy]

Thats AWESOME. You are gonna take pics right?

Got the new camera......

 

[trinidad]

OH

neighbors.....

 

[trinidad]

^ for more replies & input

 

[Indy]

Getting some bloodwork done next week also, wanna check levels and see how high I can get my IGF-1 levels

 

[UA_Iron]

Personally I'd stop the Tren Ace 3 weeks before the PCT. Ending cycles in progestones (so I've heard) makes recovery that much harder.

The clean receptor theory is false. Long cycles are nice you get a lot out of them but you have to keep switching compounds to see gains like was stated before.

Good luck with that cycle man...I could buy a car for what that cycle costs.

 

[satchboogie]

Getting some bloodwork done next week also, wanna check levels and see how high I can get my IGF-1 levels

should be interesting!

 

[Indy]

The clean receptor theory is false. Long cycles are nice you get a lot out of them but you have to keep switching compounds to see gains like was stated before.

That's the goal here, long cycle, switch up the gear in intervals, see what the outcome is

 

[Indy]

That's the goal here, long cycle, switch up the gear in intervals, see what the outcome is

Updated the .xls online, made some small tweaks....

 

[UA_Iron]

any reason why you're avoiding orals?

harshness on your system?

 

[Steve The Bluesman]

I like it, well thought out. What I notice is that the 1st and the 3rd stages have no test. I would gues that using the primo/var would give the body a bit of a break during those periods.

Man, that is a expensive one though.

Good luck - keep us posted.


Bluesman

 

[Indy]

any reason why you're avoiding orals?

harshness on your system?

Plenty of orals, var in begining, time off, then tbol starting test cycle, then back on var at end, just cycling time for the liver to recover.

 

[Indy]

I like it, well thought out. What I notice is that the 1st and the 3rd stages have no test. I would gues that using the primo/var would give the body a bit of a break during those periods.

Man, that is a expensive one though.

Good luck - keep us posted.


Bluesman

Correct, based on my blood tests when doing primo/var cycles I like to consider these cycles almost like time off. So time off between cycles, WITH everyother cycle being primo, is almost like time on equals time off X 2, not quite but you see what I mean. CYcle I am on now is test, then starts the posted cycle with primo, then test again, then primo, then test....