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Some idiot also tried to say that your stomach and intestines make the stones from the salt, oil, and juice. There are several things wrong with that theory:

1. They've tested the stones and verified that they are made out of bile, cholesterol, and various forms of toxins and bacteria. You can test this yourself by heating up a stone in a pan. The bile and cholesterol will boil and leave a black stain. If you heat up some olive oil, grapefruit juice, and epsom salts together, this will not happen.

2. You're stomach and intestines break down food, not put it together. The idiot health professional who proposed this dumbass idea didn't even read the procedure correctly. He said that the magnesium from the salts would combine with the complex carbs you get from eating the grapefruit; this combined with the olive oil makes the green stones. First of all, you don't eat the grapefruit. There are little to no complex carbs (only simply sugars) that you get DRINKING the grapefruit JUICE. Therefore there would be no matrix to form any sort of stone.

3. You drink the epsom salts two hours before the oil/juice mixture on an empty stomach. With that said, the salts are already absorbed into your tissues, and don't mix with the oil emulsion.

4. People who have done the cleanse a number of times come to a point where no more stones come out. Does it make sense to say your body all of a sudden stops making the stones from the ingredients, or is it more feasible to say that there are no more stones in your liver?

5. They have found stones in cadavers and dissected livers and galbladders.

6. There are other reasons why that guy is a dumbass, but I can't think of them right now.
 
Guvna said:
thats cuase you didnt do the olive oil/grapefuit and epsoms. I am sure you would have if you did do them.


I might try the colon cleanse. Have a link to it?

also, which parasite cleanse did you do?

I did the Nature's Secret Parasite cleanse originally but I'm not sure if they make it anymore. I'm using Renew Life cleansing products now and selling a ton at our health food store. I like them better because they are capsules and liquid extracts instead of hard tablets which can be harsh on the stomach when you are fasting. People are having great results. That's what my buddy took who started tripping at work. He lost about 3 inches on his waistline too. If you're bloated it's because you've got stuff packed away in there. I'm 32 years old, 5'10, 200lbs, and I have a 32 inch waist. I didn't get down that far until I started doing cleansing fasts.

As far as the colon cleanse goes you can go a few different ways. You can buy a full body detox kit like the First Cleanse from Renew Life or the Ultimate Cleanse from Nature's Secret which will do your whole body and your colon. They usually take about a month or so and you have to change your diet a bit, just follow the directions.

I like doing things the fastest and most efficient way so I came up with my own cleanse based on "The Master Cleanser" book. Your intestinal tract can't spend energy cleansing itself if it is constantly digesting and processing food which takes tons of energy. I'll fast solid food for 10-14 days, use the lemon juice/maple syrup/cayenne pepper drink in the Master Cleanser, do about 6 whey protein and water shakes a day, 3 Greens + servings, maybe fruit juice or veggie juice if I get really weak, drink tons of water, and take a cleansing kit, usually Renew Life Advanced Cleanse. I also take Garcinia Cambogia/HCA capsules and tea to stave off hunger pains. With the whey and the Greens + you can still function at work, if you did just the Master Cleanser drink you would have to take time off.

You will detox hard and fast so I hope you have some serious discipline if you do it the same way I do. Otherwise just take one of the kits and follow the directions. Generally with the kits you'll have to eat a ton of fiber, fruit, veggies, whole grains, and only fish, eggs, and protein shakes as a source of protein. Beef, chicken, lamb, goat, bisen, pork, etc... are harsher on the digestive system and take a long time to digest, especially pork. If you're going to fast you might want to do a 3 day first with just the Master Cleanser concoction, the whey protein, and the Greens + to see if you can handle fasting. I've only known a few people who have done a long fast like that without ever fasting before. BTW - Just about any health food store will have the Master Cleanser book. Take it with a grain of salt, the recipe for the cleanse drink is awesome, but he's way out there on other stuff.
 
BTW - I'm going to do this cleanse next week. My liver enzymes are up. I am going to talk to my Doctor on Tuesday and see if they can pull more blood next month. I will post up my before and after blood tests so you guys will know if this cleanse helps.
 
surf4yhvh said:
I did the Nature's Secret Parasite cleanse originally but I'm not sure if they make it anymore. I'm using Renew Life cleansing products now and selling a ton at our health food store. I like them better because they are capsules and liquid extracts instead of hard tablets which can be harsh on the stomach when you are fasting. People are having great results. That's what my buddy took who started tripping at work. He lost about 3 inches on his waistline too. If you're bloated it's because you've got stuff packed away in there. I'm 32 years old, 5'10, 200lbs, and I have a 32 inch waist. I didn't get down that far until I started doing cleansing fasts.

As far as the colon cleanse goes you can go a few different ways. You can buy a full body detox kit like the First Cleanse from Renew Life or the Ultimate Cleanse from Nature's Secret which will do your whole body and your colon. They usually take about a month or so and you have to change your diet a bit, just follow the directions.

I like doing things the fastest and most efficient way so I came up with my own cleanse based on "The Master Cleanser" book. Your intestinal tract can't spend energy cleansing itself if it is constantly digesting and processing food which takes tons of energy. I'll fast solid food for 10-14 days, use the lemon juice/maple syrup/cayenne pepper drink in the Master Cleanser, do about 6 whey protein and water shakes a day, 3 Greens + servings, maybe fruit juice or veggie juice if I get really weak, drink tons of water, and take a cleansing kit, usually Renew Life Advanced Cleanse. I also take Garcinia Cambogia/HCA capsules and tea to stave off hunger pains. With the whey and the Greens + you can still function at work, if you did just the Master Cleanser drink you would have to take time off.

You will detox hard and fast so I hope you have some serious discipline if you do it the same way I do. Otherwise just take one of the kits and follow the directions. Generally with the kits you'll have to eat a ton of fiber, fruit, veggies, whole grains, and only fish, eggs, and protein shakes as a source of protein. Beef, chicken, lamb, goat, bisen, pork, etc... are harsher on the digestive system and take a long time to digest, especially pork. If you're going to fast you might want to do a 3 day first with just the Master Cleanser concoction, the whey protein, and the Greens + to see if you can handle fasting. I've only known a few people who have done a long fast like that without ever fasting before. BTW - Just about any health food store will have the Master Cleanser book. Take it with a grain of salt, the recipe for the cleanse drink is awesome, but he's way out there on other stuff.

thanks
 
I just did another one this weekend. Got tons of huge stones out. I felt a little sicker during the flush this time, but I feel good now. Guvna you were right: the acidity definitely contributes to the sore ass!
 
krishna said:
I just did another one this weekend. Got tons of huge stones out. I felt a little sicker during the flush this time, but I feel good now. Guvna you were right: the acidity definitely contributes to the sore ass!


I would be very worried if large solid stones came out in case some of them stuck on its way out of the bladder or liver...what happens then ? Emergency room ? Is this procedure safe to do at home ?
How large were these stones ?
Also could you describe this sick feeling ?
Interesting thread.
 
surf4yhvh said:
BTW - I'm going to do this cleanse next week. My liver enzymes are up. I am going to talk to my Doctor on Tuesday and see if they can pull more blood next month. I will post up my before and after blood tests so you guys will know if this cleanse helps.


Yeah, I'm curous about the effect this might have on liver values.
 
RoiDrinker said:
I would be very worried if large solid stones came out in case some of them stuck on its way out of the bladder or liver...what happens then ? Emergency room ? Is this procedure safe to do at home ?
How large were these stones ?
Also could you describe this sick feeling ?
Interesting thread.

They don't go to your bladder. The epsom salts keep your liver tracks open so nothing gets stuck. I have read numerous reports and experiments with this flush, and there have been no known documentations of any complications. The sick feeling was kind of a nauseous dehydration. I drank water this time in the morning, and it didn't affect the flush at all. It made me feel better too.
 
Krishna, I did the liver cleanse over Memorial weekend since I had the day off on Monday. I got about 100 stones about 2-4 mm each, about half brown and half green. I think there were some larger ones too that sank (I think some of the stones were the calcified ones that can sink). I followed this very closely with the exception of a few sips of water to take a tylenol for a headache. It took a day or two to get my energy back, but a week later, I feel great. I'll do it again when my weekend schedule lightens up a bit. Thanks for the post.
 
stfuhr said:
Krishna, I did the liver cleanse over Memorial weekend since I had the day off on Monday. I got about 100 stones about 2-4 mm each, about half brown and half green. I think there were some larger ones too that sank (I think some of the stones were the calcified ones that can sink). I followed this very closely with the exception of a few sips of water to take a tylenol for a headache. It took a day or two to get my energy back, but a week later, I feel great. I'll do it again when my weekend schedule lightens up a bit. Thanks for the post.


Goo job bro! Those sound like good results for a first flush. I've had plenty the size of marbles come out.

Word of caution for those who are going to do it: My friend did it again this weekend too, but forgot and drank milk in the morning (NO FAT!). Since this released bile to digest the fat in the milk, it took the built up bile pressure off of the liver. When He did the flush, there wasn't enough pressure in the liver, and he didn't get any stones out. His liver could simply release bile at it's normal rate to digest the olive oil. We've both learned that the pressure is a very crucial element in the flush.
 
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