Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Just finished a 6wk cycle of dbol 50mg ed went to my Dr. for blood work. The liver values are (AST) 82 (ALT)236 He asked if I have A drinking problem and I said no. I dont drink at all. Is this normal after a cycle? will my values come back down? My main concern is that now he wants to do an ultra sound on my liver this friday and he thinks I may have Hepatitas c. my test for hep c will be in on friday. Has anyone ever heard of getting hep c from oral dbol? is this possible? thanks R1 man.
liver values are threw the roof.
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gjohnson5
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Yes, it's normal
I had the same problem once on OTC designer steroids and it got as far as an ultrasound. They wont find anything (since your values were from steroid use) and this is a waste of time and money
r+ala , glutathione , NAC , milk thistle , SAM-E and soy lecithin should help your liver restore itself after you stop the dbol
MorganKane
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Call him up and tell him you have been taking OTC prohormones.
You just found out that they are hard on the liver and would like to wait a few weeks then do another blood test.
Now, research supplements for liver support.
You just found out that they are hard on the liver and would like to wait a few weeks then do another blood test.
Now, research supplements for liver support.
Def agree on the individual case basis
Don't worry too much about AST and ALT levels. I had jaundice (cholestasis from using Dbol) when my ALT = 283 and AST = 110, so you're not far off that yourself. I was still sick at ALT = 233 and AST = 90 a month later.
What you really should check when you're using c17 alkylated steroids is your bilirubin (direct & total). That will tell you what you really need to know because dbol shuts down the bile flow which causes accumulation of bilirubin. If I was taking dbol again, that's all I'd check. As soon as that goes over the high end of normal it's time to stop...immediately!
If you've come off the dbol and have no evidence of yellow skin & eyes and your shit is still dark in color then you're probably ok. Another sign of cholestasis is a nauseas feeling when you consume fatty foods. Also a severe itch all over the body (pruritus) - especially on the hands and feet.
Even if your bilirubin is/was elevated, it will soon get back down to normal if you're asymptomatic.
There's no point in taking any suggestions from the doctor when you haven't schooled him in as to the reason why your liver enzymes are elevated. The ultrasound is used to find out if there is any physical obstruction to bile flow. In the case of drug induced cholestasis there never is.
If you tell him the truth, everything is already in the text book. Case closed.
goku_kakarot77
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its an individual thing, i dont drink at all, when i took winny obviously with test, my liver enzymes were elevated after 5 weeks by very little of winy at 50mgs ed the the end of cycle, two weeks later enzymes were back to normal
mattdan
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Sorry but that is just wrong, wrong.
So according to this post we're to believe if he ADDED test and deca to that his liver values would be normal?
So test and deca or tren or whatever injections IMPROVE liver values according to you?
Gimme a break.
No, it took several months. I posted my bilirubin levels in another thread recently.
Elevated bilirubin is different to AST/ALT/ALP etc. When it's elevated you know about it quite early on. It's a very serious condition that you can't miss.
I don't know where you got this info. My ALP was pretty good when my bilirubin was very high.
The highest level my ALP attained when I was at my worst was just a fraction over the high end of normal. i.e. 283 U/L (normal up to 270 U/L)
In fact my ALP was back into the normal range a few weeks after I discontinued using dbol while I was still jaundiced.
Anyhow, the topic gets too gray.. there are tons of reasons for cholestasis, more than just AAS, but you're right by history that it'd be presumable what is the issue.. I just meant in general when discussing intrahepatic/extrahepatic causes of cholestasis/obstruction you think about malignancy, stones, autimmune disorders, hepatobiliary diseases, alcohol, etc.
Big_Joe
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Don't worry about. You can get those levels of ALT from a heavy keg workout. All cells have the enzymes that ALT tests for. ALT isn't a test for liver function it's a test for inflammation. Your liver has lots of these enzymes fo if it's inflamed your ALT will go up. But it also goes up when you do a heavy workout because your muscle cells release the same enzymes.
And they guy that had jaundice probably had a clogged bile duct. That will cause jaundice.
And don't fall into the trap of stuffing a lot of crap down your throat to "help" you liver. Everything you ingest puts strain on your liver, EVERYTHING. Even spicy food. If you want to help your liver drink lots of water and fast for a couple of days. The people that say to take <fill in what ever you have been told will help your liver> are just repeating what they read in commercials from supplement companies.
And they guy that had jaundice probably had a clogged bile duct. That will cause jaundice.
And don't fall into the trap of stuffing a lot of crap down your throat to "help" you liver. Everything you ingest puts strain on your liver, EVERYTHING. Even spicy food. If you want to help your liver drink lots of water and fast for a couple of days. The people that say to take <fill in what ever you have been told will help your liver> are just repeating what they read in commercials from supplement companies.
