Liver discomfort/pain

[rikishi]

I ran PPlex for 6 weeks at 40 mg. Only 2 days ago (the second day of PCT) I started noticing some sort of cramping/discomfort in the right side of my midsection in the liver area. Today the pain has gotten a little worse. However, the pain will only throb for a few seconds, then it goes away and I seem to only feel it when I think about it. I didn't feel anything during the cycle.

I took milk thistle everyday throughout the cycle and now I am taking Milk Thistle along with NAC and rALA.

My skin isn't yellow or anything like that. Does anybody have any other advice on what else I should do? Is the pain going to go away in a few days or is this something I need to worry about?

 

[fibercarbon]

goto a doctor and get blood work to get your liver values checked

 

[dabuffguy]

I ran PPlex for 6 weeks at 40 mg. Only 2 days ago (the second day of PCT) I started noticing some sort of cramping/discomfort in the right side of my midsection in the liver area. Today the pain has gotten a little worse. However, the pain will only throb for a few seconds, then it goes away and I seem to only feel it when I think about it. I didn't feel anything during the cycle.

I took milk thistle everyday throughout the cycle and now I am taking Milk Thistle along with NAC and rALA.

My skin isn't yellow or anything like that. Does anybody have any other advice on what else I should do? Is the pain going to go away in a few days or is this something I need to worry about?

I seriously doubt that 6 weeks at 40mg of methylated orals gave you liver damage. Doctors give anadrol to anaemic children for extended periods of time at a higher dose than that.

It is probably just a coincidnce that you are cramping at this time. The fact that you are off when it started cramping shows that it is proably not related to the steroids.

I have had random abdominal cramps for a couple days at a time in accute areas for no apparent reason before.


Did you drink alcohol regularly while on?



If it was damaged you would feel it constantly I would think.



Give it a couple more days. If it doesn't go away, then go to the doc.

 

[rikishi]

I seriously doubt that 6 weeks at 40mg of methylated orals gave you liver damage. Doctors give anadrol to anaemic children for extended periods of time at a higher dose than that.

It is probably just a coincidnce that you are cramping at this time. The fact that you are off when it started cramping shows that it is proably not related to the steroids.

I have had random abdominal cramps for a couple days at a time in accute areas for no apparent reason before.


Did you drink alcohol regularly while on?



If it was damaged you would feel it constantly I would think.



Give it a couple more days. If it doesn't go away, then go to the doc.

I only had alcohol once. Like a genius, I drank on new years despite on the last week of the cycle. i didnt drink to ridiculous excess though, i kept it at about 8 drinks and for someone at my size that isnt too much in one night.

thanks for the advice. i dont think anything is damaged either, but im a worrier and wanted some second opinions.

 

[dabuffguy]

I only had alcohol once. Like a genius, I drank on new years despite on the last week of the cycle. i didnt drink to ridiculous excess though, i kept it at about 8 drinks and for someone at my size that isnt too much in one night.

thanks for the advice. i dont think anything is damaged either, but im a worrier and wanted some second opinions.

You are most likely just fine.

It was a valid concern.

Some people make liver toxicity sound like it has lead and mercury in it and will possibly kill you at another week or 10mg higher dose.


Someone could probably take 100mg daily for 6 months before they get any real serious issues.


Ask AAP about him using winny for 34 weeks staright he had zero issues with it. Now, I would NEVER suggests anything remotely that lengthy, but you get the idea that this isn't going to be putting anyone in the hospital that is already a healthy person.

 

[rikishi]

You are most likely just fine.

It was a valid concern.

Some people make liver toxicity sound like it has lead and mercury in it and will possibly kill you at another week or 10mg higher dose.


Someone could probably take 100mg daily for 6 months before they get any real serious issues.


Ask AAP about him using winny for 34 weeks staright he had zero issues with it. Now, I would NEVER suggests anything remotely that lengthy, but you get the idea that this isn't going to be putting anyone in the hospital that is already a healthy person.

interesting. why are we advised to run orals at a maximum of 6 weeks then? to err on the side of caution? i would think gains would be easier to keep run at 8-10 weeks rather than 6.

 

[dabuffguy]

interesting. why are we advised to run orals at a maximum of 6 weeks then? to err on the side of caution? i would think gains would be easier to keep run at 8-10 weeks rather than 6.

^^^

Exactly.

That, and HPTA suppression and recovery would be more difficult.

 

[rikishi]

^^^

Exactly.

That, and HPTA suppression and recovery would be more difficult.

thanks again dabuffguy, you and needto are ridiculously helpful. you deserve some sort of award.

 

[itz486]

Liver supps kick that organ into high gear, those drinks you had were compounded by the supps you were taking, I would drop the milk thistle for good and stick with the NAC and RLA..

 

[fibercarbon]

good advice!!!