LG's *first* Journal

[localgirl]

*first* Journal

Ok, so Ive gained so much knowledge & priceless advice from this board, I figured it was about time to start posting a journal.
I do keep a fit day account & found it to be very useful. But I have been notrorious for falling off the wagon, so maybe this will help me to reach my goals.

GOAL: Initially I would like to be in the 15- 16 % bf range. Weight isnt a huge issue for me, I know its not the lbs that matter, but just for fun, 127lbs would be ideal.
Stats:
Age: 25
Height: 5' 5.5
Weight: 138 lbs
Bf: 25%

* I am currently on week 4 of a var cycle- 10mg ED. ( I have seen strength gains, no sides).

Daily Supp.'s
CLA - 1 before each meal
Multi- Vit- breakfast & dinner
Milk Thistle- same as Multi Vit.

Diet: I have posted my diet before on here & recieved postive feedback, with some minor tweaking, it is remotely the same.
Meal 1
egg white scrammble w/ mixed veggies
Protien Shake w/ 1 tbsp Flax seed
Meal 3
Nut Mixture ( Almonds & Walnuts) about half a cup
Meal 3
Tofu & Broccoli
Meal 4
Varies between a home made granola bar, carrots & hummus or another protien shake w/ Flaxseed
Meal 5 - pwo
Asian Salad ( Tuna )

I am trying a low carb thing for a week, its quit difficult as I love brown rice with my meals, but I have heard fabulous things about cutting carbs for a week & gradually adding them back.

Workout
5-6x week
Cardio each day- post weights, 30-40 min. except on leg nights* only 20min. then.
Large muscle groups have theyre own nights
Split/ Shoulders & Abs / Chest & Abs/ Arms & Abs
Legs 2x a week


We are working on tweaking the workout a bit & starting tomorrow I will be jumping rope for 20 min. when I wake up * for fasted cardio.

I was very shy to post this, please dont be too hard on me!!
I was @ 17% bf according to another scale when I decided to go on var & then we purchased a scale & it was quit dissapointing to see my bf @ 25%.

Please feel free to fill me in on anything I may appear to be in the dark about, I truely do appreicate & I honestly just want to be the best well trained machine that I can be.

* I'd rather be strong than skinny *

 

[needtogetaas]

Good for you girl making this log. We will all be checking in on it and posting up with you every day.

 

[localgirl]

Morning Morning! Freakin' Mondays~ gotta love em! lol

Ok, had an alright weekend, very choked that I drank a lil on friday night, I know Booze is like the devil when trying to cut. I dont even want to know how much I set myself back from it. Which lead to over indulging the day after * least I stayed away from Mcdonalds & got to the gym everyday..
Since I fell off the horse, I figured what better way to start a new week with a new perspective~ get back on that freakin' horse!
I've started the no carbs for a week ( except from veg's)
I havent notice many gains with the var, but we figured that Ive only been on it for 3 weeks today. Hopefully the strength goes up more.

 

[Strategus]

Very nice to see a journal from a gal! How long have you been lifting? Do you do sports other than lifting?

It would be great to see your lifting results/progress through the cycle (or at least the major lifts you're doing). Were your lifts at a plateau, especially when cutting? And - how is cardio going? Do you ride a bicycle or do any outdoor cardio?

I'll confess that beer is a weakness for me but I'm natural/less experienced lifter and only supplement with multivit, protein, calcium (for my older-gal bones), zinc.

I'm learning lots of stuff about the connection between alcohol, estrogen and bodyfat....I notice that my lifts are a lot better when I don't indulge in beer - reps go up and progress is faster.

I don't have any cholesterol problems so I like to eat whole eggs to get the goodies that are in the yolks. Might be different for you, especially with the cycle. Did you get cholesterol, blood work etc. checked?

Have you used creatine or DHEA before?

Kudos for doing a journal!!!! I think you will make a lot of progress!

...And...gas is $4.00 a gallon now and going up. You might just be able to use some of the enhanced w/o recovery from that var to ride a bicycle to work or on errands etc. LOL.

Definitely keep journaling!

 

[needtogetaas]

Morning Morning! Freakin' Mondays~ gotta love em! lol

Ok, had an alright weekend, very choked that I drank a lil on friday night, I know Booze is like the devil when trying to cut. I dont even want to know how much I set myself back from it. Which lead to over indulging the day after * least I stayed away from Mcdonalds & got to the gym everyday..
Since I fell off the horse, I figured what better way to start a new week with a new perspective~ get back on that freakin' horse!
I've started the no carbs for a week ( except from veg's)
I havent notice many gains with the var, but we figured that Ive only been on it for 3 weeks today. Hopefully the strength goes up more.

Ya you should be getting something from the var soon. Mondays are a drag for most people but I love them. I happen to be that peppy person almost every day though.

 

[DBBT]

Re: *first* Journal

do you have a personal trainer or someone you're working with?

If not or even if you are interested in something that isn't too far off from what you are doing, let me know. I can help you with diet, training and supplementation.

 

[Thandie]

You're doing pretty good..God work!

 

[Thandie]

You're doing pretty good..Good work!

 

[localgirl]

Thanks for all the support!!
Ive been lifting for about a year now, Ive always been a gym girl, but not half as dedicated as I am now, partying was more important at the time.
My weights have gone up actually currently they are:
Arms- curls/hammer curls- 15lbs
Tri extentions-25lbs/ Cables-60lbs.
Back- Wide grip pulldowns-82lbs/ Seated Rows-96lb/ Dumbbell Rows-22.5lbs
Legs( broke into two days) Day 1 ( machines)- Calf Raises- 130, Extentions-120, Hamstring Curls-90 Leg Press- 230lbs. Day 2 - Seated Calf Raises-70lbs, Squats ( machine) 2 plates, Walking Lunges- 22.5
Abs- We do every other night, I pyramid the ab machine 130-140-150-150, want to start doing some other stuff, but not sure what..
Shoulders & Chest- all excersises & weights are about the same 20lbs.-22.5 dumbells
40-60 for machines.
I was struggling with arms for the longest time, definately my weak spot, my back & legs seem to thrive the most.
Is there a rep./ set that can be suggested for higher results. Im just doing 3 x 12 & the last set to failure.
For cardio, we stepped it up this weekend, since I think cardio is definately my down fall, its' 30 min. on legs days & 40-45 every other day. I actually really like the elliptical, I set it at intervals & it ramps up & the resistance goes up really gets the heart pumping. Stationary bikes are great too. I get cramps on the treadmills..
All my vitals are in tip top, blood pressure was a bit low last I checked, but nothing to panic about.
I love the yokes in eggs too! But Im afraid my diet needs tweaking..I am trying to keep the calories at 1500, 30-35g fat & low carb, is this the best I can be doing?
I know gas is rediculous, I work in the oil industry, so bicycling to work would take forever, but good idea!
I do take some supp.s', as far as creatine, Just got some more cellmass- it worked well for me before.

Needto, Ive heard strength goes up in the 3-4th week? Im almost out of my first batch, and I want to ramp the dose, what do you think is a safe bet?
Also, Ive read alot that people are stacking this w/ T3 or clen, why not an eca stack?

Im open to any advice. DBBT- what do you have in mind?

Thnks again all!

 

[DBBT]

Im open to any advice. DBBT- what do you have in mind?

I would change your diet, weight training, cardio, and supps.
I don't want to step on anyone's feet if they are already helping you though.
If you want my advise and want to do exactly what I tell you to, here's what I need:
Picture of you as of today
Your weight as of today
Then, ultimately tell me what do you want look like, what is your goal, etc.

 

[localgirl]

I would change your diet, weight training, cardio, and supps.
I don't want to step on anyone's feet if they are already helping you though.
If you want my advise and want to do exactly what I tell you to, here's what I need:
Picture of you as of today
Your weight as of today
Then, ultimately tell me what do you want look like, what is your goal, etc.

I cant get a photo today
My weight is 140
Goal- Id like to lose at least 10-13 lbs. & get my bf% down to 15-16.

Im curious what this plan entails?

 

[localgirl]

Woke- 1 bottle of water
Meal 1- Egg whites w/ vegggies & pico de galla
Fruit & Flax shake - 1 part blueberries, 1 part pineapple, 1/2 banana, 2 tbsp's flax, 1 cup water & 1/2 cup rice milk ( looks gross but is YUM!)


Thats all so far!


PLEASE post advice or anything you may find helpful to me, I open for critiquing. Thnx

 

[localgirl]

Hi All,

Since noone is responding Im just gunna use fitday & assume that I am doing things correctly.

My meal plan is really good. I figured out how much my BMR is, still have a few questions about how much my calorie intake actually should be...Im trying to keep it between 1100-1500 for fat loss.

I was expecting a lil more feddback, but I guess Im on the right track ( and I know since I cannot post photos ya'll cant really see the progress.)

Did back last night, my lifts are going up, but back has always been a strong muscle group for me.

Thanks for all the words of wisdom.
Peace.

 

[Thandie]

Hi All,

Since noone is responding Im just gunna use fitday & assume that I am doing things correctly.

My meal plan is really good. I figured out how much my BMR is, still have a few questions about how much my calorie intake actually should be...Im trying to keep it between 1100-1500 for fat loss.

I was expecting a lil more feddback, but I guess Im on the right track ( and I know since I cannot post photos ya'll cant really see the progress.)

Did back last night, my lifts are going up, but back has always been a strong muscle group for me.

Thanks for all the words of wisdom.
Peace.

After you accomplishe your goals, then post your new goals and meals so we can tweek it if needs to..

Good luck!

 

[needtogetaas]

Hi All,

Since noone is responding Im just gunna use fitday & assume that I am doing things correctly.

My meal plan is really good. I figured out how much my BMR is, still have a few questions about how much my calorie intake actually should be...Im trying to keep it between 1100-1500 for fat loss.

I was expecting a lil more feddback, but I guess Im on the right track ( and I know since I cannot post photos ya'll cant really see the progress.)

Did back last night, my lifts are going up, but back has always been a strong muscle group for me.

Thanks for all the words of wisdom.
Peace.

Yes your meals do look pretty good girl. Is it working for you? It would still be good for others if you did post up ed. That way others can get good ideas for you, and draw inspiration from you to.

 

[DBBT]

you don't need to post the pic, pm it to me or email it.

 

[DBBT]

Re: *first* Journal

GOAL: Initially I would like to be in the 15- 16 % bf range. Weight isnt a huge issue for me, I know its not the lbs that matter, but just for fun, 127lbs would be ideal.
Stats:
Age: 25
Height: 5' 5.5
Weight: 138 lbs
Bf: 25%

* I am currently on week 4 of a var cycle- 10mg ED. ( I have seen strength gains, no sides). how long are you planning on running the var?

Daily Supp.'s
CLA - 1 before each meal
Multi- Vit- breakfast & dinner
Milk Thistle- same as Multi Vit. these are all fine...omega 3's/fish oil would help too.

Diet: I have posted my diet before on here & recieved postive feedback, with some minor tweaking, it is remotely the same.
Meal 1
egg white scrammble w/ mixed veggies i need to see exact amount of protein here/same with carbs/fat
Protien Shake w/ 1 tbsp Flax seed same thing here
Meal 3
Nut Mixture ( Almonds & Walnuts) about half a cup and here
Meal 3
Tofu & Broccoli here
Meal 4
Varies between a home made granola bar, carrots & hummus or another protien shake w/ Flaxseed here
Meal 5 - pwo
Asian Salad ( Tuna ) and here

I am trying a low carb thing for a week, its quit difficult as I love brown rice with my meals, but I have heard fabulous things about cutting carbs for a week & gradually adding them back.

Workout here we would go 3 on 1 off .... I'll got into detail for each day
5-6x week
Cardio each day- post weights, 30-40 min. except on leg nights* only 20min. then. this is great, especially taking leg day off
Large muscle groups have theyre own nights
Split/ Shoulders & Abs / Chest & Abs/ Arms & Abs
Legs 2x a week

 

[DBBT]

Diet

I want you to eat ONLY when hungry. Eat these nutrient grams, ok? 25 grams of carbs, 20 grams of protein, 9 grams of fat at EACH MEAL. After ten days, tell me how many meals on average you have eaten, ok? This way we can see what calorie number we have to be to keep your bodyweight the same/lose/gain. Please weigh yourself every day at the same time.Olive oil for fats, fruits and green vegetables for carbs, eggs, chicken, milk, soy or fish for protein. No more starches ( rice, oatmeal). This is 7 days a week. There is not any cheating.

Also, I need a pic to see before you start this.

 

[DBBT]

Training

1. Chest, Back, Standing calvs-Day 1
2. Quads, hamstrings, abs- Day 2
3. Shoulders, Biceps, Triceps, Seated calvs- Day 3
4. Off

3 Sets ONLY per body part. After warm up, do heaviest set first, maybe in the range of 5-9 reps to failure, then drop 10% for another set, then another 10% drop for last set. Rest between sets until breathing returns to normal. Use compound movements only. No cables. Declines and dips for chest only. Laterals only for shoulders, no pressing movements. Squats for quads only. Stiff legged dead lifts, abductors and leg curls for hamstrings, and you can rotate these exercises or do 1 set of each as per how you feel. Rotate standing and seated calvs when it is their turn to train them. Pull ups and rows for your back because it is bigger, 3 sets each. DBs for bicep curls, dips or close grip bench for triceps. Do not go all the way up or all the way down on any exercise, stay in the 80% zone. Keep a fast smooth pace, no kinks or stopping to catch breath. Take each set to failure, do not count reps after the first set. Keep doing your cardio except for leg day, can be done after workouts or in the morning first thing.

 

[DBBT]

In Conlusion, Var

i just tried to plat you but you've already received it

Anyway, stick with the var dose you have for now.

 

[Tatyana]

Hi All,

Since noone is responding Im just gunna use fitday & assume that I am doing things correctly.

My meal plan is really good. I figured out how much my BMR is, still have a few questions about how much my calorie intake actually should be...Im trying to keep it between 1100-1500 for fat loss.

I was expecting a lil more feddback, but I guess Im on the right track ( and I know since I cannot post photos ya'll cant really see the progress.)

Did back last night, my lifts are going up, but back has always been a strong muscle group for me.

Thanks for all the words of wisdom.
Peace.

Too many cooks spoil the broth, and as you have DBBT looking out for you, I am not going to interfere.

ONE little thing though, if that is your BMR, you need to multiply by your activity level. There is even a multiplier if you don't train at all.

If you base your total daily calories on your BMR only, it is possible you will lose lean tissue and possibly mess up your metabolism a bit.

 

[localgirl]

Wow, thats some plan DBBT!! It will definately be hard not cheating @ all,even my favorite homemade granola bars have starch in them

I plan on running Var for 8-10 weeks
I am defiantely willing to give this a shot. The typical intake for my current meals; Protien 20-29g/ Carbs 3-5g/ Fat 0-5g per meal. Im sure I can find some recipes to chow the ratio your recommending, this is 5x per day right? So a total of 45g of fat per day? I was always under the impression that it should be kept under 30-35g, but I'm sure you know what your talking about!

Also, how flexible is the training schedule? The only reason I ask is because I do work out with my man ( he is a certifyed personal trainer) and what he's got me doing is working although Im sure I can convince him to try this schedule

The only problem I can see is being in the gym for longer nightly as opposed to more throughout the week. I work loooong hours ( 5am - 630pm) & by the time we get to the gym its already 7-730ish at night, this is my only concern.
Oh, and my cardio is good correct? So pretty much just be changing to more of a split on this program? With the 3-1 no cardio on the one off? Just to clarify.

I think thats pretty much it for my questions. Hope to hear back soon. I'd like to start this on Monday

Thanks Tat, your right! As usual! I'll recalculate

 

[DBBT]

Wow, thats some plan DBBT!! It will definately be hard not cheating @ all,even my favorite homemade granola bars have starch in them

I plan on running Var for 8-10 weeks
I am defiantely willing to give this a shot. The typical intake for my current meals; Protien 20-29g/ Carbs 3-5g/ Fat 0-5g per meal. Im sure I can find some recipes to chow the ratio your recommending, this is 5x per day right? So a total of 45g of fat per day? I was always under the impression that it should be kept under 30-35g, but I'm sure you know what your talking about!

Also, how flexible is the training schedule? The only reason I ask is because I do work out with my man ( he is a certifyed personal trainer) and what he's got me doing is working although Im sure I can convince him to try this schedule

The only problem I can see is being in the gym for longer nightly as opposed to more throughout the week. I work loooong hours ( 5am - 630pm) & by the time we get to the gym its already 7-730ish at night, this is my only concern.
Oh, and my cardio is good correct? So pretty much just be changing to more of a split on this program? With the 3-1 no cardio on the one off? Just to clarify.

I think thats pretty much it for my questions. Hope to hear back soon. I'd like to start this on Monday

Thanks Tat, your right! As usual! I'll recalculate

no cheating

you are eating ONLY when you are hungry, we're not looking at the clock at all, or thinking when you had your last meal.

don't add up the grams or calories...right now you eat those ratio of nutrients per meal, only when you're hungry. Yes, on average you will most likely end up eating 5-7 times a day. I know it's different, but trust me.

You can EASILY be in and out of the weight room in 35-40 minutes

If you can't do the cardio right after that, then get it in any other time of day somewhere, at home etc.

This split is awesome in my opinion, you get to train each bodypart twice a week. Especially with the var, you will notice.

But do the 10 days for me. Weigh in at the SAME place same time everyday. For me the scale is in the bathroom, I don't even pee before getting on it b/c I know that will throw off yesterday's weight lol.

 

[bw1]

Good job

 

[needtogetaas]

I think dbbt is a good help.

 

[localgirl]

OK!
Figured what better time than the present to start!

Meal one- Protien; 45 Fat;10 Carbs; 12

Egg whites & veggies
Go shake - Protien, banana & blueberries
Flax Oil

- now my carbs were still below 20, so I had a granola bar ( they are homemade, mostly nuts & seeds & brown rice syrup- is ok???? )

I may need some suggestions as to what I could eat to get that ratio DBBT.

I am not hungry @ all right now & I usually am 2 hours after Ive eaten breakfast

Maybe if you have even just a rough meal plan I could follow, tweaking it myself could take a while.

thnx!

 

[DBBT]

OK!
Figured what better time than the present to start!

Meal one- Protien; 45 Fat;10 Carbs; 12

Egg whites & veggies
Go shake - Protien, banana & blueberries
Flax Oil

- now my carbs were still below 20, so I had a granola bar ( they are homemade, mostly nuts & seeds & brown rice syrup- is ok???? )

I may need some suggestions as to what I could eat to get that ratio DBBT.

I am not hungry @ all right now & I usually am 2 hours after Ive eaten breakfast

Maybe if you have even just a rough meal plan I could follow, tweaking it myself could take a while.

thnx!

well, it looks like you're pretty set on using your food. Just try to get as close to those ratios i provided as possible. To get EXACT numbers for your pro carbs fats you need to get a food scale. Weigh everything out. That's why i listed the foods optional for protein carbs and fat. If you stick with those, it's easy to determine quantity. The program I set up for you is hardcore. If anyone else wants to try it, please do, you will love the results.

 

[localgirl]

Thank you.
Im going to make up an excel sheet w/ meals for the next 10 days - NO cheating..I can do that.
Im going to buy an elliptical for my house, so I can do some cardio in the morning, in case the gym runs late during the week. I dont mind waking up 30 min. early if its going to benefit me in the long run.

Just curious about ya'lls opinion w/ the Var, how high should I dose it out ed? Im @ 10ED, but thinking bout ramping...not sure though. Any thoughts?

 

[localgirl]

Morning Morning.

So...Ive been following that ratio & I have put on weight. still.
I dont get it. Could it be water weight from the var?

 

[localgirl]

Meal 1
Protien Shake - cosist of yogurt, protien pow. 3 straw. handful blueberries, 1/2 banana
Meal 2
1 cup egg whites & spinich
Snack
Trail mix ( I cut out the granola bars.. too much sugar..no matter how I tryed to justify it)
Meal 3
6 spears asaragus & 3 oz. tuna
Snack
Peach

Thats it so far today.
Sorry DBBT, I ran the splits by my training partner & it would cause us to work out seperately at the gym if we changed that. Perhapes theres some other method..
I am doing what you recommended as per starting heavy..
I feel much stronger at the gym. The var is working .
Noone answered me with what var can be stacked with? Im gaining more mass than anything, Id like to cut some of it back, I was asking about running eca with it.or clen?
Im really getting frustrated here.
Ive come to grips with my diet, I definately cleaned it up..threw out all the crap in the cupboards, that was a big one, as I love food, even more since I quit drinking.

 

[blueta2]

What is your goal, to lose weight or gain muscle?

 

[localgirl]

I realize that I cant do both, so for now, Im shooting for gaining muscle.
but with that, shouldnt my bf% be dropping, regardless if my weight is going up?


I do appreciate everyones imput.

 

[blueta2]

I realize that I cant do both, so for now, Im shooting for gaining muscle.
but with that, shouldnt my bf% be dropping, regardless if my weight is going up?


I do appreciate everyones imput.

if you're shooting for muscles, forget the scale. When I was at my thinest and most muscular I was 145 lbs I looked awesome in a size 3 jeans.

I've not worked out much lately and went down to 129 lbs and am wearing a size 7, so don't look at how much you weigh.

And yes BF should be dropping and it will drop as long as you stay consistant and keep the food intake at a good level

 

[localgirl]

Thank you.
I think thats exactly what I needed to hear.

 

[Tatyana]

When you put on muscle, you will have a bodyfat drop, but not to the same extent if you were just focused on burning fat.

It does depend on a lot of factors, some people have lucky genetics, and if you are new to training or coming back to training, this will be more pronounced.

 

[Thandie]

When you put on muscle, you will have a bodyfat drop, but not to the same extent if you were just focused on burning fat.

It does depend on a lot of factors, some people have lucky genetics, and if you are new to training or coming back to training, this will be more pronounced.[/QUOTE


^^What she said!!

 

[localgirl]

LOL

You ladies are so smart!

Mahalo!

 

[DBBT]

Morning Morning.

So...Ive been following that ratio & I have put on weight. still.
I dont get it. Could it be water weight from the var?

the purpose of the 10 days was to see how your body reacted to the ratio. That's why I wanted a picture before you started and one on day 10, that's why I wanted you to weigh yourself everyday for 10 days and eat nothing but what i listed. After the 10 day period, things would change, possibly in the gym and diet and supps, according to how you feel, look, and want to look in the near future. Good luck.

 

[localgirl]

the purpose of the 10 days was to see how your body reacted to the ratio. That's why I wanted a picture before you started and one on day 10, that's why I wanted you to weigh yourself everyday for 10 days and eat nothing but what i listed. After the 10 day period, things would change, possibly in the gym and diet and supps, according to how you feel, look, and want to look in the near future. Good luck.

I am sticking to the outlined foods, but that ratio made me feel very full & bloated. I think it may have been a little too too much for me in one sitting?

I had to go out of town unexpectedtly, so I couldnt weigh myself, but no worries, Im not throwing away your advice DBBT. I do appreciate your support, people like you make goal reaching possible.
Knowledge is power

 

[localgirl]

DIET : I did a pretty good job yesterday w/ following the diet to a T.
Im weighing myself every morning, same time. and will post the results at the end of the week.

Meal 1- Protien Shake
Meal 2- 1 cup egg whites & spinich
Snack- Handful Trail mix ( I got a lil carried away w/ em yesterday ate about a cup!
Meal 3- 6 spears asaragus & 1 can tuna, lemon to flavor
Snack- 1 cup plain low fat, no suger yogurt w/ grapefruit peices
Meal 4- Haddock & 8 spears asaragus or egg whites & spinich
Snack( late night)- protien shake or low fat yogurt w/ fruit ( is this okay? for 10 pm, before bed?)

Havent started the fasted cardio yet....I know thats going to be the golden ticket.
Week 4 of Var- Still no sides- maybe a lil water retention, Strenghts are going up. Staying @ 10mg ED for the rest of the cycle- another 6 weeks ( sound good?)
Day 3 of Clen- Up to 4 doses @ 20- sides are much milder than eca I find. Shakes are bad, sweating, suppressed appeitite, minor headaches here & there.
Other supps- CLA ( before meals 3x a day)
Creatine- Cellmass- 2x daily as directed, 1x 8 hours before workout 1x directly after workout
Yohimbine- Just started taking this w/ meals 3x a day ( heard it was good for stubborn fat loss) is there a certain time of day to take this? The directions arent specific, should it be taken w/ or without food?
Multi-Vit- w/ Meal 1

peace

 

[localgirl]

Diet: Ive been consistant with what Ive been eating daily.Seems to be working well, clothes are fitting better again..man, I do love muscle memory. Only thing is the "girls" are slowly disappearing..
Any of the ladies in here have any implant experiences they dont mind sharing? Im scheduling a consult. this year, just want to get some opinions about it, from ladies who have or havent. Or men who have ladies who have 'em.

Did arms last night, HARD workout ( def. noticing strengths from the var )

Oh, and I guess I'll just google the prior questions, thanks anyways guys

 

[localgirl]

Anyone out there??

 

[DBBT]

need pics

 

[needtogetaas]

Anyone out there??

Some womens will be around girl. I took the time and pm'd a bunch I know had theres don.

 

[curvymommy]

Diet: Ive been consistant with what Ive been eating daily.Seems to be working well, clothes are fitting better again..man, I do love muscle memory. Only thing is the "girls" are slowly disappearing..
Any of the ladies in here have any implant experiences they dont mind sharing? Im scheduling a consult. this year, just want to get some opinions about it, from ladies who have or havent. Or men who have ladies who have 'em.

Did arms last night, HARD workout ( def. noticing strengths from the var )

Oh, and I guess I'll just google the prior questions, thanks anyways guys

Hey LG! I'll PM you with some great info and resouces.

It's sad when the girls go away, lol. Many women can relate and I also know there is some great posts in regard to placement, implant size, ect in the women's discussion forum!

Talk to you soon.
Molly

 

[Bikini Mod]

I got my implants done near ten years ago and have been looking to get mine redone so I am as eager to get info as you.

I LOVED my first set but I will NOT get saline again. I have heard great things about memory gel. Anybody else hear bout this? I felt it and damn it feels near natural.

For the record I have had mine for 10 years and never had I had a problem. I did have to have one brought down a bit as it settled a negligible bit higher than the other (couldn't tell in a bra but without one you could so I had it fixed. I mean, isn't the whole point of having fake titties so that you dont have to wear a bra if you dont want to? LOL). Other than that... NEVER had a problem.

I am a full 34C though my hubbie is a bewb man so I have consented to go to a D but will go no bigger as it would look freakishly wierd on my small frame.

As for the rest with diet and training, you seem to be in good hands already so rock on and let us know how it goes!

 

[heatherrae]

Diet: Ive been consistant with what Ive been eating daily.Seems to be working well, clothes are fitting better again..man, I do love muscle memory. Only thing is the "girls" are slowly disappearing..
Any of the ladies in here have any implant experiences they dont mind sharing? Im scheduling a consult. this year, just want to get some opinions about it, from ladies who have or havent. Or men who have ladies who have 'em.

Did arms last night, HARD workout ( def. noticing strengths from the var )

Oh, and I guess I'll just google the prior questions, thanks anyways guys

I have my boobs done. I did it nearly 15 years ago, though, and the technology has improved since then. The number one thing is to get a doctor that comes highly recommended. They will best be able to tell you where your scars should be, what type of implant you should get, etc based on your anatomy.

The big piece of advice I would give is to go one size bigger than you think you will want. I've known LOTS of women who got implants, and the one complaint I hear from them the most is that they wished they had gone one size bigger.

 

[needtogetaas]

Thanks ladies. I can't express how much it means to hear from all of you.

 

[localgirl]

Thank you Thank you!!!!

I have been put on a waiting list, so early next year I should be able to get in.
I choose a female doctor, for the simple fact that she will more likely be more considerate about where the scaring would be & hopefully gentle. lol

Im thinkin' that the gel filled ( gummie) implants are going to be my best bet. I have heard that they sit nicely & feel natural-ish..
Definately after reading the replies, Im going for a D cup for sure.


Thank you needto for pm'ing the ladies. Good lookin' out bro

Diet- still on track & it isnt even getting old eating the same thing everyday!
last night was an active rest- did pilates

Tomorrow I will post my weights for the week.

 

[GUARDIAN]

did any of you ladies feel any discomfort with the implants during chest exercises or as you gaine muscle in your chest from working out?

 

[needtogetaas]

Thank you Thank you!!!!

I have been put on a waiting list, so early next year I should be able to get in.
I choose a female doctor, for the simple fact that she will more likely be more considerate about where the scaring would be & hopefully gentle. lol

Im thinkin' that the gel filled ( gummie) implants are going to be my best bet. I have heard that they sit nicely & feel natural-ish..
Definately after reading the replies, Im going for a D cup for sure.


Thank you needto for pm'ing the ladies. Good lookin' out bro

Diet- still on track & it isnt even getting old eating the same thing everyday!
last night was an active rest- did pilates

Tomorrow I will post my weights for the week.

Just doing my best girl

 

[localgirl]

Just doing my best girl

You are the man.

Still waiting to order your book. I went a lil nutz shopping last couple weekends..so..the ol' plastic is drained..lol

Soon needto, & i look forward to it!

 

[Thandie]

I had my breast implant in 98'. The best way to approach this is to consult with a few Dr. and chose from there the one you're the most comfortable with. I usually research the top 3 Dr's. I don't want to mess around with that. If I don't have the money to pay a top Dr, I wait till I do. Simple reason is once something goes wrong you have to pay much more to fix it. Research, research. There's a website for plastic surgery that you can learn a great deal; as to what to and not to do pre and post surgery; very important. The site is www.makemeheal.com

I hope this helps. However, if you have additional questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

 

[localgirl]

I had my breast implant in 98'. The best way to approach this is to consult with a few Dr. and chose from there the one you're the most comfortable with. I usually research the top 3 Dr's. I don't want to mess around with that. If I don't have the money to pay a top Dr, I wait till I do. Simple reason is once something goes wrong you have to pay much more to fix it. Research, research. There's a website for plastic surgery that you can learn a great deal; as to what to and not to do pre and post surgery; very important. The site is www.makemeheal.com

I hope this helps. However, if you have additional questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

Thank you very much
I actually didnt even think about all the other things that can be done during the procedure, ie. symmitry of breasts. I did however think about the nipples, all the implants I have seen, they seen to have stretched out nipples, wonder if theres any way to avoid that, or perhapes make them smaller? That site is fantastic!
There are a few really good doc. in my area, all have a waiting list going into the new year, the doctor I choose, Ive seen her work, its beautiful. She a lil more expensive than the others, but Id rather shell it out now than have problems.

 

[heatherrae]

did any of you ladies feel any discomfort with the implants during chest exercises or as you gaine muscle in your chest from working out?

I cant do any sort of weighted exercise where I have to lie face down on a bench. The implants don't squash down flat and it is VERY uncomfortable.

 

[bw1]

did any of you ladies feel any discomfort with the implants during chest exercises or as you gaine muscle in your chest from working out?

Why? Are you thinking about getting yours done?

 

[heatherrae]

Why? Are you thinking about getting yours done?

hee hee

 

[DBBT]

I cant do any sort of weighted exercise where I have to lie face down on a bench. The implants don't squash down flat and it is VERY uncomfortable.

face down, ouch. You could prolly pop 'em if it were comfortable, no?

 

[GUARDIAN]

Why? Are you thinking about getting yours done?

calves....lol

 

[localgirl]

Lmao. I didnt know you could pop the girls? Good thing they come w/ a warrenty hey?!

Diet- Same as yesterday. ( no, Im not getting bored with it yet, thank goodness!)

Im averaging about .5 lb per day weight loss from the clen( im on day 5 of it) Really actually enjoying it, besides the heavy sweating, the sides have cut back. Question : What is the proper dose for a woman to take, meaning what can I max out at? I dont want to over or under do it...

The definition in my upper body is really coming along nicely, end of week 5 on the var. Absolutely loving this stuff. Happy I stuck w/ the decision to keep the dose low. 10mg ED.

TGIF!!!

 

[GUARDIAN]

Question : What is the proper dose for a woman to take, meaning what can I max out at? I dont want to over or under do it...

A woman should not max out at more than 100mcg's ed and that is for an advanced user of clen. I would stay in the 40-60mcg range.

Are you taking taurine?

 

[localgirl]

A woman should not max out at more than 100mcg's ed and that is for an advanced user of clen. I would stay in the 40-60mcg range.

Are you taking taurine?

I took 100mcg's yesterday, I seem to tolerate the sides really well, I will not go any higher than that though. Thanks

Yes.

 

[localgirl]

Morning Ladies & Bro's ~

Had a really sucessful week/ weekend. Didnt miss the gym once, stuck to the diet ( a bit of extra carb loading on fri/ sat/ sun though.

I am averaging bout .5 lb loss per day ( lovin' the clen).

Been incoorperating drop sets into my workout, really liking it, steps it up a knotch.

Just a couple of quick questions- How often is it okay to do abs? Ive heard many different opinions. Can they be done everyday? And what are the best moves for hitting the obliques?

Also, after this week, I will be cycling off clen & also have gotten mixed information about running an eca directly afterwards, does it use the same receptors? Should I just take 2 weeks off?

Thank you & Happy Monday!

 

[localgirl]

Anyone???

 

[localgirl]

Anyone???

Guess Noone is checking this thread anymore.. lol.
I did some research & found that ECA does hit the same receptors ( and then some) as CLEN.
So, Im cycled off of it, using a mild- non-stim. fat burner ( amp'd) for the 2 weeks off.

I had great results w/ Clen & cleaning up my diet. I had nothing but time @ work on friday so I did some research on Carb cycling, I think it may be the golden ticket for myself, being carb sensitive.

Started weight @ begining of Clen cycle : 145lbs. 27% bf
2 weeks later- 137.7lbs. 25% bf

Still running var, 10ED. Will continue to run this dose, its effective & small ammount of sides ( nothing extreme, very mild).

I was wondering if anyone could give me a sample diet for carb cycling, Id like to do the 3:1. Ive got the low carb days figured, just need help w/ the high day.
Low CARB
Meal 1- Shake ( fruit, hemp seed, flax seed, protien)
Meal 2- Egg whites & spinich or protien pancake
Meal 3-Tuna & 6 spears asparagus
Meal 4- Celery,1 tbsp. nat pb
Meal 5- Protien Shake ( PWO)
Meal 6- Fish & asparagus / or asian salad ( Salad w/ tuna & sesame oil. rice vin. dressing) & clear tea ( before bed.)

HIGH CARB
Meal 1- Shake
Meal 2- Sweet potato muffin & Egg whites w/ spinich
Meal 3- Turkey/ avocado wrap & asaragus
Meal 4- Protien pancake/ celery & 1 tbsp. nat pb
Meal 5- Protien shake ( PWO)
Meal 6- 2 eggs, 1 peice w.w toast, 3 peice turkey bacon
Meal 7- yogurt ( plain fat free) fresh fruit


Please help me tweak this menu. I truely appreciate it

 

[Thandie]

Guess Noone is checking this thread anymore.. lol.
I did some research & found that eca - ephedrine - caffeine - aspirin does hit the same receptors ( and then some) as Clenbuterol.
So, Im cycled off of it, using a mild- non-stim. fat burner ( amp'd) for the 2 weeks off.

I had great results w/ Clen & cleaning up my diet. I had nothing but time @ work on friday so I did some research on Carb cycling, I think it may be the golden ticket for myself, being carb sensitive.

Started weight @ begining of Clen cycle : 145lbs. 27% bf
2 weeks later- 137.7lbs. 25% bf

Still running Anavar - oxandrolone - , 10ED. Will continue to run this dose, its effective & small ammount of sides ( nothing extreme, very mild).

I was wondering if anyone could give me a sample diet for carb cycling, Id like to do the 3:1. Ive got the low carb days figured, just need help w/ the high day.
Low CARB
Meal 1- Shake ( fruit, hemp seed, flax seed, protien)
Meal 2- Egg whites & spinich or protien pancake
Meal 3-Tuna & 6 spears asparagus
Meal 4- Celery,1 tbsp. nat pb
Meal 5- Protien Shake ( PWO)
Meal 6- Fish & asparagus / or asian salad ( Salad w/ tuna & sesame oil. rice vin. dressing) & clear tea ( before bed.)

HIGH CARB
Meal 1- Shake
Meal 2- Sweet potato muffin & Egg whites w/ spinich
Meal 3- Turkey/ avocado wrap & asaragus
Meal 4- Protien pancake/ celery & 1 tbsp. nat pb
Meal 5- Protien shake ( PWO)
Meal 6- 2 eggs, 1 peice w.w toast, 3 peice turkey bacon
Meal 7- yogurt ( plain fat free) fresh fruit


Please help me tweak this menu. I truely appreciate it

I don't see anything wrong with it. Except, I'd change what you eat before going to bed. Have a casein protein drink, which works slower into your system as opposed to salad that is faster. Looks good!

 

[localgirl]

I don't see anything wrong with it. Except, I'd change what you eat before going to bed. Have a casein protein drink, which works slower into your system as opposed to salad that is faster. Looks good!

Thandie, thank you so much for posting the sweet potato muffin recipe! I am in LOVE with them! lol

One little problem with changing what I eat before bed, due to my schedule, that would be my dinner, as I workout later on in the evening, a casein drink wouldnt be suffice as a meal replacement? What else could you suggest.

P>S saw your pics, you look amazing! as usual!

 

[Thandie]

Thandie, thank you so much for posting the sweet potato muffin recipe! I am in LOVE with them! lol

One little problem with changing what I eat before bed, due to my schedule, that would be my dinner, as I workout later on in the evening, a casein drink wouldnt be suffice as a meal replacement? What else could you suggest.

P>S saw your pics, you look amazing! as usual!

Oh, I'm sorry! I thought you meant after having dinner, you had a salad before going to bed. In that case you're good!! Fish with vegetables or with a salad for dinner is great!!

Thank you! and I'm glad you enjoy the pancakes. Did you tried the sweet potato muffins? Yummy!
You can adjust the amount of ingredients to your macros. I use less then the recipe b/c my protein now is average while my carbs is high.

 

[localgirl]

Oh, I'm sorry! I thought you meant after having dinner, you had a salad before going to bed. In that case you're good!! Fish with vegetables or with a salad for dinner is great!!

Thank you! and I'm glad you enjoy the pancakes. Did you tried the sweet potato muffins? Yummy!
You can adjust the amount of ingredients to your macros. I use less then the recipe b/c my protein now is average while my carbs is high.

haha, no prob.
What is caesin protien actually really good for? How can it benefit me? Would I replace my whey protien w/ it? Just curious.
I actually made BOTH! your muffins & pancakes this weekend! Delicious to both! Perfect for my carb loading days!

 

[Thandie]

haha, no prob.
What is caesin protien actually really good for? How can it benefit me? Would I replace my whey protien w/ it? Just curious.
I actually made BOTH! your muffins & pancakes this weekend! Delicious to both! Perfect for my carb loading days!

No, I would not replace whey for casein. I use casein when I need an extra feeding. I'd have it before going to bed b/c it has a slow release profile, so your body is not hungry in the middle of the night. But if you have your macros in place and don't need the extra feeding you don't really need it. That's how I use it. Right now I'm not having it b/c my protein is only 125. When my protein is higher, I'd take it..

 

[localgirl]

No, I would not replace whey for casein. I use casein when I need an extra feeding. I'd have it before going to bed b/c it has a slow release profile, so your body is not hungry in the middle of the night. But if you have your macros in place and don't need the extra feeding you don't really need it. That's how I use it. Right now I'm not having it b/c my protein is only 125. When my protein is higher, I'd take it..

Okay, thanks thandie.
Ive heard alot about casein, but didnt really know if it was for me.
You cleared that right up! Amazing advice as always!

p.s. Your sweet potato muffin recipe is FAMOUS in my house! I had to make more last night! My bf is addicted! lol thnx again

 

[Thandie]

Okay, thanks thandie.
Ive heard alot about casein, but didnt really know if it was for me.
You cleared that right up! Amazing advice as always!

p.s. Your sweet potato muffin recipe is FAMOUS in my house! I had to make more last night! My bf is addicted! lol thnx again

I'm glad to hear that!! I will give you other recipes later on. Enjoy it!!

You're doing great BTW! Keep working hard and be consistent; you'll be amazed years from now at how you'll look. Take my word for it...

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate. I love to help people who trully want to make a difference..

 

[localgirl]

I'm glad to hear that!! I will give you other recipes later on. Enjoy it!!

You're doing great BTW! Keep working hard and be consistent; you'll be amazed years from now at how you'll look. Take my word for it...

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate. I love to help people who trully want to make a difference..

Thank you Thank you

Diets been great, missed a couple nights at the gym this week, but didnt affect my lifts last night.
Extentions- 130-150-150
Ham. Curls- 70-90-90
Calf raises ( standing) - 110-130-130
Leg Press- 270-180-270-180
Did all drop sets for my last set- to failure.

Loving the Var.
I was liking the clen too for a bit, but soon realized its garbage, prefer ECA results not sides though, guess theres always something to be sacraficed.
Starting ECA stack tomorrow. I rebounded badly from the clen.

Stats: Weight 140lb bf%- 26% as of this morning.

 

[localgirl]

- Last week of ECA-
Up to 3x per day
Still running Var- Noticable strengths gained, a lot of vascularity, none- very mild sides. 3 weeks left of cycle.

Stats: 137.lbs
25.3% bf

Started fasted cardio this morning. Omg, is it ever hard to drag my as* outta bed that early & then to start jumping rope.. VERY HARD.
I feel amazing now though. Only managed to pull of 10 min. of jumping rope. Anyone have any good interval advice on this. I seem to be able to jump hard for about 40-60 sec. before I gotta take a breather.
Fueled up w/ a protien shake after & some creme of wheat for breakfast. Changed up my meal plan for the week. Incorp. carbs early in the day, cut them off @ 2-3pm.
Meal 1- Creme of Wheat 3 tbsp./ 1 tbsp. flaxseed/ 1 tsp. wheat germ/ 1 tsp. brown sugar splenda ( for flava!)
Meal 2- Protien Shake w/ mixed berries 1 tbsp. Flax oil & 4 egg whites
Meal 3- Grapefruit/ 4oz. salmon, 1 cup sweet potato & 4 asparagus
Meal 4- Protien Shake - 2 hours before gym
Meal 5- PWO
Meal 6-egg whites & 1 whole egg/ 1 cup spinich ( I eat dinner really late, hense the low cal meal)
I drink water continuously throughout the day.

I'll keep ya'll posted on how well this works out for me. Fingers crossed.Im ready to see some more changes.

 

[Strategus]

Hello LG -

Interesting journal. I've enjoyed following it even though I haven't posted in a while.

Sorry to hear about the rebound from the clen.

I have a feeling that your weight is nearly the same because the anavar is acting anabolically even though you're eating below maintenance.

What has happened with your measurements? In particular, has your waist circumference changed (gone down)? Arm measurements up any? Any change in neck measurement?

I'm doing a little bit of a "cut," too - but mine's just based on eating below-maintenance and doing cardio (riding bike) with ~2x/wk lifting. (multivit and whey are my only supp's). Just checked the ol' arms and fortunately, I've been able to hold onto the muscles.

 

[localgirl]

Hello LG -

Interesting journal. I've enjoyed following it even though I haven't posted in a while.

Sorry to hear about the rebound from the clen.

I have a feeling that your weight is nearly the same because the anavar is acting anabolically even though you're eating below maintenance.

What has happened with your measurements? In particular, has your waist circumference changed (gone down)? Arm measurements up any? Any change in neck measurement?

I'm doing a little bit of a "cut," too - but mine's just based on eating below-maintenance and doing cardio (riding bike) with ~2x/wk lifting. (multivit and whey are my only supp's). Just checked the ol' arms and fortunately, I've been able to hold onto the muscles.

Thanks. I had a feeling about that too. So this week will be the last week of this cycle of var.
Im going to try to cut up nauturally- with a fat burner, but not eca ( im off it friday anyways).

I have noticed my size going down. Ive firmed up alot & my muscles have grown significantly ( especially my arms, which at one point were my weakest spot). So the var. does work great, but I think its time to cycle off of it.
I'll run another cycle in another few months- before xmas holidays

Congrad's on doing it all natural! I hit a plateau, and I think I just hit ANOTHER.. haha.
So Im going to switch up the order of my excercises & keep at the fasted cardio.
Hope this actually works.. its getting pretty frustrating..

 

[Strategus]

Hello LG -

Measure thy results by the way clothes fit and by the measuring tape...not the scales!

As long as your side effects are low, I wouldn't cut the cycle short because the 'var is acting anabolically - building muscle is what anavar is _supposed_ to do! (And the muscle that it builds speeds up metabolism, which helps get rid of fat). They say that the first cycle is the most effective one - so it's probably best to run it for the originally planned time, as long as everything else is OK.

It's great that your arms have grown!! Sounds like good results!

You will want to give your body some good rest time between cycles, and definitely do some low-intensity cardio between cycles to make sure that cholesterol etc. is in check. (oatmeal is great for reducing cholesterol problems, which are more common in guys who use a lot higher doses...just an ounce of prevention).

Are yoga studios sprouting up everywhere around you? It seems I see ads for new yoga studios everywhere! Some folks swear by yoga for cardio.

I'm doing my thing naturally because my bodyfat is still a little bit high (it was about 28% a couple of months ago) and I haven't quite plateau'd on my lifts yet. Although I've done regular cardio for ~5 years, I really haven't lifted all that long (a little better than a year). Also, it's been like a jillion years since I ever had blood work done, and I wanna have that done before I'd consider a cycle or DHEA. I know my cholesterol is OK, but don't know about the other stuff.

Keep up the lifting! I'll bet it's fun lifting right now!

Best wishes!

Thanks. I had a feeling about that too. So this week will be the last week of this cycle of var.
Im going to try to cut up nauturally- with a fat burner, but not eca ( im off it friday anyways).

I have noticed my size going down. Ive firmed up alot & my muscles have grown significantly ( especially my arms, which at one point were my weakest spot). So the var. does work great, but I think its time to cycle off of it.
I'll run another cycle in another few months- before xmas holidays

Congrad's on doing it all natural! I hit a plateau, and I think I just hit ANOTHER.. haha.
So Im going to switch up the order of my excercises & keep at the fasted cardio.
Hope this actually works.. its getting pretty frustrating..

 

[localgirl]

Thank you!
That was so wonderful to hear, just what I needed

I keep forgetting that I am building muscle like crazy & I really do need to STOP focusing on the scale! It is soo hard though- it just stares at me somedays! haha

I do eat Oatmeal everyday too- love the stuff w/ flaxseed & wheat germ, a lil brown sugar splenda! Delicious!

I will finish up my cycle as planned, I got a little hasty with the decision to just stop. It definately gets a lil frustrating when you see women who totally transform in 5 months- and all the while, I am busting my booty & not seeing my weight shift at all!

I just incorp. fasted cardio, so it should def. make a difference in the fat burning, tightening up my diet a wee bit more too. Its a challenge, almost like a game- to beat my old self, ya know?

Thank you for your support. If you ever need the same- you know where to find it!!

 

[Strategus]

You go girl! Think about the robin pulling the worm out of the ground....persistence pays off!

I remember back when I was in college there were times I just wanted to stop taking classes and doing my thesis research...but folks told me that persistence is the name of the game!

At the end of the cycle, plan to get yourself a nice treat like some new clothes or a cool pair of shoes!

 

[localgirl]

You go girl! Think about the robin pulling the worm out of the ground....persistence pays off!

I remember back when I was in college there were times I just wanted to stop taking classes and doing my thesis research...but folks told me that persistence is the name of the game!

At the end of the cycle, plan to get yourself a nice treat like some new clothes or a cool pair of shoes!

thank you!

What did you take in college?
N yes, it is hard when we all know somedays pushing yourself just isnt in yah! But once its done, its a fabulous feeling!!
I had a goal to be down to 130 by Aug. but Im starting to realize that although the scale says that Im about 5-8 lbs. from there, I definately dont look it.
Actually look much thinner than I did @ 130 last summer- fat skinny..yeeckk! lol
Really loving the fasted cardio. Im starting to see results- shooting for a 1% bf decrease by Aug.1 & at least another 2 lbs.
Just to be realistic. Im off the eca & clen.
Just trying an over the counter fat burner & finishing up the var cycle.
Gunna give my lil body a break from the extra's for a couple of weeks. Then do a nice detox.
anyone know of any good ones??

Stats: Will post friday

 

[Strategus]

Hi LG -

I studied zoology in college. Everything from ecology to biochem...

I'm glad you stopped the clen and eca. I believe that it's best to do one thing at a time, and to study up/know what each thing does.

Just think about that anavar telling cAMP to tell your cellz to make lots of muscle!

How is LIFTING going?! Have you lifted some PR's?

Are you going to taper off the 'var? E.g. do last few days at a reduced dosage?

I'm not really expert on detox things, but milk thistle (silymarin) is often recommended. You might also wanna hit up the oatmeal as a daily carb source to reduce/cut back/zap any cholesterol effects from the 'var. These two things are probably better for addressing the time after the cycle than a 'colon cleanse' or whatever the 'thing' is these days at the 'holistic health' places. Just eat healthy and definitely do cardio off-cycle.

Have you been monitoring your BP through the cycle, e.g. at the machines in the supermarket? (I hope you have them where you are). I just checked mine tonight and it's down to 118/77 or so...it usually runs a little higher (120s and 130s with lower number around 80-something) when I'm not eating a bit below maintenance.

Might be a good idea to start eating a bit of oatmeal now and through the end of the cycle...check BP...since your 'var is a low dose, I think BP etc. will be fine especially now that no fat burners.

Tell me about your LIFTS! How much have they gone up?!

Best wishes!

 

[Thandie]

thank you!

What did you take in college?
N yes, it is hard when we all know somedays pushing yourself just isnt in yah! But once its done, its a fabulous feeling!!
I had a goal to be down to 130 by Aug. but Im starting to realize that although the scale says that Im about 5-8 lbs. from there, I definately dont look it.
Actually look much thinner than I did @ 130 last summer- fat skinny..yeeckk! lol
Really loving the fasted cardio. Im starting to see results- shooting for a 1% bf decrease by Aug.1 & at least another 2 lbs.
Just to be realistic. Im off the eca - ephedrine - caffeine - aspirin & Clenbuterol.
Just trying an over the counter fat burner & finishing up the Anavar - oxandrolone - cycle.
Gunna give my lil body a break from the extra's for a couple of weeks. Then do a nice detox.
anyone know of any good ones??

Stats: Will post friday

Yes, that's right! Milk thistle and evening prime rose, in addition to flax seed oil, but I believe you're already taking that..

 

[localgirl]

Yes, that's right! Milk thistle and evening prime rose, in addition to flax seed oil, but I believe you're already taking that..

I am actually taking flaxseed oil daily-but that brought up a question.
How much is recommended.
I take 1 tbsp. in my oatmeal ( ground flax) and then 1 tbsp. in my morning protien shake. Is that too much? I notice A LOT of my fat comes from that-
Milk thistle- I take with the var. 2x a day.
I should keep taking it after the cycle?
Whats a recommended taper method?

I have 1.5 weeks left on this cycle.

 

[Thandie]

I am actually taking flaxseed oil daily-but that brought up a question.
How much is recommended.
I take 1 tbsp. in my oatmeal ( ground flax) and then 1 tbsp. in my morning protien shake. Is that too much? I notice A LOT of my fat comes from that-
Milk thistle- I take with the Anavar - oxandrolone - . 2x a day.
I should keep taking it after the cycle?
Whats a recommended taper method?

I have 1.5 weeks left on this cycle.

Hey Localgirl-

How much fat do you have per day? that'll depend how much flax seed oil you'll have. For intance, my daily fat intake is between 25-30gm, so I take 1 tsp daily. If I take more then that, I'd go over. Maybe 1 tbs is enough for you?
If I need more fat, I'll have salmon and if the food I'm eating doesn't cover all the fat I need, then I'll have anothe tsp. So far I never have to do that..

However, try the Evening prime rose, which is good for detox as well. Can't remember the dosage. Milk Thistle is 1 capsule 3 times a day..

 

[localgirl]

Hey Localgirl-

How much fat do you have per day? that'll depend how much flax seed oil you'll have. For intance, my daily fat intake is between 25-30gm, so I take 1 tsp daily. If I take more then that, I'd go over. Maybe 1 tbs is enough for you?
If I need more fat, I'll have salmon and if the food I'm eating doesn't cover all the fat I need, then I'll have anothe tsp. So far I never have to do that..

However, try the Evening prime rose, which is good for detox as well. Can't remember the dosage. Milk Thistle is 1 capsule 3 times a day..

hey- well I was shooting for my macro's to be between 20-25 ( higher on weight days) and then 100-125 carbs/ 150-170 prot.
I have noticed that my joints are doing alot better since I started taking flaxseed. you think 1tbsp will be enough? It would def. lower my fat intake- and I think thats where a lot of the problems lie..
Can I get prime rose @ any health food store?

 

[Thandie]

hey- well I was shooting for my macro's to be between 20-25 ( higher on weight days) and then 100-125 carbs/ 150-170 prot.
I have noticed that my joints are doing alot better since I started taking flaxseed. you think 1tbsp will be enough? It would def. lower my fat intake- and I think thats where a lot of the problems lie..
Can I get prime rose @ any health food store?

I think 25gms of fat for you is fine, considering you want to burn some fat and you said is helping you. I don't think you need more.
You can get evening prime rose at any health food store. Start with a low dosage though..

 

[localgirl]

I think 25gms of fat for you is fine, considering you want to burn some fat and you said is helping you. I don't think you need more.
You can get evening prime rose at any health food store. Start with a low dosage though..

Thank you Thandie
Youve been such a great mentor to me w/ all your super usefull words of wisdom & knowledge!!

I'll post at the end of the week how this week went- including my stats
trying to stay off the scale till friday!

 

[Tatyana]

Thanks. I had a feeling about that too. So this week will be the last week of this cycle of var.
Im going to try to cut up nauturally- with a fat burner, but not eca ( im off it friday anyways).

I have noticed my size going down. Ive firmed up alot & my muscles have grown significantly ( especially my arms, which at one point were my weakest spot). So the var. does work great, but I think its time to cycle off of it.
I'll run another cycle in another few months- before xmas holidays

Congrad's on doing it all natural! I hit a plateau, and I think I just hit ANOTHER.. haha.
So Im going to switch up the order of my excercises & keep at the fasted cardio.
Hope this actually works.. its getting pretty frustrating..

You are either recompositioning your body, so burning off fat and replacing with muscle (same weight of muscle takes up about half the fat), or you may be over-training and/or with sub maintenance calories just staying stable.

It is hard to tell what your progress is when it is your own body at times.

 

[localgirl]

Thank you Tat-
Your right. It is extremely hard to tell on yourself sometimes.

Can you elaborate on CKD ? What are the pro's & con's..

Just doing some research on it & its sparked my interest.
Though I am not sure how I feel about No carbs- kinda silly to me!

 

[localgirl]

Bump

 

[localgirl]

Had a wild bday weekend- Booze & Cake & Ice Cream..

It was definately NOT worth it. My bf% jumped drastically..
along w/ my weight.

A nice reminder why these things are unnecessary & poor for your health.

Lesson Learnt.

UPDATE: Last week of var.
Tapered to 5mg p/d

No fat burner. Clean diet. ( besides on my bday..lol)
Gotta lotta work to do still

 

[Thandie]

Had a wild bday weekend- Booze & Cake & Ice Cream..

It was definately NOT worth it. My bf% jumped drastically..
along w/ my weight.

A nice reminder why these things are unnecessary & poor for your health.

Lesson Learnt.

UPDATE: Last week of Anavar - oxandrolone - .
Tapered to 5mg p/d

No fat burner. Clean diet. ( besides on my bday..lol)
Gotta lotta work to do still

That's why I am so disciplined and people don't understand. Everytime you do that to yourself you realized how not worth it was it. No worries, you'll get it and each time you'll do it less and less. Just a lesson!

 

[localgirl]

That's why I am so disciplined and people don't understand. Everytime you do that to yourself you realized how not worth it was it. No worries, you'll get it and each time you'll do it less and less. Just a lesson!

I understand!!! haha. You know, I thought I could write it off as my birthday celebration.. next year, I want to go some place tropical & sip lemon water & eat fresh fruit on the beach!!

Thanks Thandie- its definately not worth it, but soo dissapointing when I already knew that it would have a negative affect..

Does anyone know if there is any sort of PCT that ladies need to run? Ive read different things. Just want some clarification.

 

[drsketch]

How is that var working for you?

 

[localgirl]

How is that var working for you?

very well. I throughly enjoyed this cycle.
Would run it again for sure. Sides were mild & strenghts went WAYY up

 

[Tatyana]

Thank you Tat-
Your right. It is extremely hard to tell on yourself sometimes.

Can you elaborate on CKD ? What are the pro's & con's..

Just doing some research on it & its sparked my interest.
Though I am not sure how I feel about No carbs- kinda silly to me!

I think it stands for cyclic ketogenic diet, or timed ketogenic diet.

You limit your carbs except for certain times of the day, so for example, post work-out is an essential, then some people often take carbs in pre-workout as well.


Ok, I am going to play good cop bad cop with Thandie

If you are not getting ready for a comp or have to make a weight for a comp, I think that a flexible dieting approach really works.

Going off your diet for a weekend is not going to wipe out the weeks of dieting you have done, and the extra calories and fat may just kick your metabolism into high gear again.

People who have a more relaxed approach to dieting often maintain their weight and a healthy eating plan than those who are really rigid with their diet.

The bodyfat on the scale is probably water, they are not that accurate.

This is the thing about having a weekly free meal, you can still have a clean 'cheat'. The idea is just to get a few more calories into you or eat what you are craving. It is good for you both psychologically and physically.

For example, right now I would love rice cakes with peanut butter, or oat cakes, or these quinoa bars sweetened with rice syrup. All quite clean cheats.

I wouldn't recommend eating things that have you kick off into a binge though.

Some people are great at just having half a pizza and stopping, others would end up having to have the ENTIRE pizza, garlic bread, tiramisu for desert..................

I know I have to be careful with fat, especially dark chocolate with SUGAR as I will eat a whole bar a day for about a week once I get the taste.

 

[drsketch]

Thats cool, did you see some dramatic change in your body and hardness through this months?

 

[localgirl]

Thats cool, did you see some dramatic change in your body and hardness through this months?

I obviously dont see what others see when they look at me.
Being my own harshest critic.
But yes, Ive heard Ive had noticable changes, my lifts have gone up significantly.

But at the same time, I kept it low dose- and would NEVER go any higher.

 

[drsketch]

Pics?

Yeah I am hard on myself as well, I hear you.

 

[localgirl]

Pics?

Yeah I am hard on myself as well, I hear you.

Nope no photos-
other than my avi.