Lethargy & steroids

[RADAR]

today I was asked this question,and i thought it deserved some attention,especially since there has not been alot of tests or Bloodwork posted on the board to warrent what causes Lethargy.
since i train alot of members that have type 2 diabeties its not uncommon to let your Blood Glucose slip too low .glucose levels are a small part of the picture. you can eat all day and still feel lethargic on certain drugs. on the contrary those with strong androgenic properties will give you great energy so its all about cns augmentation through androgenic receptor(DHT)/e2,You have to be careful - as we know, it is not good to pump pure sugar in, just to raise glucose levels unless you are going hypo. The effects will be too short, and overall, it is not a good thing for body building.

It is better to up the complex carbs, like oatmeal, and maybe some mid GI foods like potatoes if you BG is too low.just to show how tricky this situation can get, Today I felt Great Took all my supplements,Power Chews,Attack,Dieselbolin,HGH,Ipamorelin,IGF lr3, no excess lethargy. Went to the gym, had a great workout. Came back here, was hungry, Had a hi Calorie protein shake. About 30 minutes later lethargy hit me almost immediately along with what seems to be a rise in body temperature, an almost sure sign of enhanced anabolism in this situation... Or so I believe.

I mean, with a large amount of low-GI carbs 30 minutes before, I shoulda been just great, right? Could it be lack of estrogen?Hard to say without bloodwork.Anyway.....
Went and ate a small serving of homemade blueberry pie sweetened with organic maple syrup. YUM!! 10 minutes later, much less lethargic, and a little bit of a pump happening.

could it be that some AAS mimic the effect of test enough to keep you from feeling lethargic? The funny thing is i have never seen anyone say "was feeling lethargic during my cycle so i started drinking dextrose koolaid and it was fine" and i have never seen anyone recommend to someone who was feeling lethargic on cycle that they should do something to up their blood sugar. Im not saying that hypoglycemia isnt the answer, but if it were that simple wouldnt it be common knowledge by now that to combat on cycle lethargy you just need carbs?

Lets hear some opinions from the rest of you guys

 

[UA_Iron]

Interesting talking point RADAR.

I carb up slightly before the gym and then after the gym I feel better than I did all day. (I train at night so I can't comment on hours later post gym). I've been feeling rather lethargic lately as well - sometimes androgens just seem to have that affect regardless of blood sugar I think, but I am sure that could certainly play a part in that feeling.

 

[cuthroat]

I usually take some 9 grain bread, spread a little honey on it and it gives me the needed boost usually.

 

[gstacker]

Oatmeal, potatoes, whole weat pasta, whey protien shake made with a poweraide pwo and another nice meal a hour later..... I feel like a king!

I think i understand what ur saying, im on some deca now and if i dont eat that well i still feel good but not king like good.

 

[zedhed]

Bros I feel maybe almost as ambitious as a flat tire.
Right now my cycle is this,
Drol 50mg/week
Test 500 mg/week
Deca 200mg/week
NPP 300 mg/week
Also am on GHRP-6
Not hungry at all, have to force feed. Never ever had this in my life. Have always been a huge eater.
This is the first Blast of a 12 month Blast and Cruses Mass project.

 

[gstacker]

Bp? Im sure ur diets good right? Maybe you need to really carb up one day a week or somthing

 

[Arabian]

Great info Radar, I also work out at night , so I do not usually have any issues, however I eat like a madman during the day.

 

[zedhed]

Ok right after my above post I took a tea spoon of honey.
As of now am feeling like I might wanna do something other then sit on my ass...

 

[gymjunkie09]

Better protein bars make a great pick me up

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[Arabian]

Ok right after my above post I took a tea spoon of honey.
As of now am feeling like I might wanna do something other then sit on my ass...

lol

 

[gymjunkie09]

Bros I feel maybe almost as ambitious as a flat tire.
Right now my cycle is this,
Drol 50mg/week
Test 500 mg/week
Deca 200mg/week
NPP 300 mg/week
Also am on GHRP-6
Not hungry at all, have to force feed. Never ever had this in my life. Have always been a huge eater.
This is the first Blast of a 12 month Blast and Cruses Mass project.

How u likn that ghrp-6 zed? Was thinkn bout throwing that in the mix with my next cycle...test e/Eq lean bulk

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[RADAR]

Better protein bars make a great pick me up

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That would be worth looking into instead of a teaspoon of honey ,because once that is used up you will probably crash & burn.Keep us posted.

 

[gymjunkie09]

Better protein bars make a great pick me up

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That would be worth looking into instead of a teaspoon of honey ,because once that is used up you will probably crash & burn.Keep us posted.

I'm cutting so I'm staying away from pb and sugar for the most part but when I was eating them preworkout they def made for a quality workout...can't wait till I start bulkn again gonna stock up for my next cycle I'm sure ill go through a bag a week at least


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[Jaxtwo1]

Have you guys ever used an EC stack during a mass cycle. Seriously, and not just preworkout. The 3x a day thing. If you dont run it very often and are not burnout from it, it might suprise you. You have to increase your calorie/protein a bit. so you dont burn it as fuel. The energy isn't even the main advantage. It the increase in metabolism,digestion,and protein synthesis that builds muscle at a faster rate and the adrenalizing effect of the ephedrine always allows me to push heavier and longer in a workout. Its the only thing I have not incorporated since being back and it show.

 

[bren565]

im about as energetic as bricks.. but i am on low carb to cut up someon give me some advice for ... trucks sakes

 

[CSB]

i find a lot of the lethargy on a buling cycle for me comes from water bloat , i am dead as a door nail at the moment and constantly feel "full" from water and from the sheer volume of food

 

[CSB]

Have you guys ever used an EC stack during a mass cycle. Seriously, and not just preworkout. The 3x a day thing. If you dont run it very often and are not burnout from it, it might suprise you. You have to increase your calorie/protein a bit. so you dont burn it as fuel. The energy isn't even the main advantage. It the increase in metabolism,digestion,and protein synthesis that builds muscle at a faster rate and the adrenalizing effect of the ephedrine always allows me to push heavier and longer in a workout. Its the only thing I have not incorporated since being back and it show.

i am currently using 2 ecas pre workout (left over from cutting cycle) for energy because havent invetsed in a good pre workout booster yet , but not the 3 x a day

 

[Mr P]

For me my energy level is quite good, while on cycle when I workout in the morning, when I have worked out at night after a long day is not as good, what I do is have some complex carbohydrates, like whole grains or vegetables before my workout.

For me eating small carb meals thorugh out the day help me maximise my glycogen storage, the amount of carbohydrates you eat determines the amount of glycogen stored in the liver and muscles, which inturn greatly affects your performance.

Even when cutting and consuming low amount of carbs I still divided them up throughout the day, and this really works well for me.

 

[zedhed]

Nice, thanks bro.^^^ Good advice!

 

[Sub-Zero]

Have you guys ever used an EC stack during a mass cycle. Seriously, and not just preworkout. The 3x a day thing. If you dont run it very often and are not burnout from it, it might suprise you. You have to increase your calorie/protein a bit. so you dont burn it as fuel. The energy isn't even the main advantage. It the increase in metabolism,digestion,and protein synthesis that builds muscle at a faster rate and the adrenalizing effect of the ephedrine always allows me to push heavier and longer in a workout. Its the only thing I have not incorporated since being back and it show.

ephedrine increases protein synthesis?

 

[obsessedwliftin]

For me my energy level is quite good, while on cycle when I workout in the morning, when I have worked out at night after a long day is not as good, what I do is have some complex carbohydrates, like whole grains or vegetables before my workout.

For me eating small carb meals thorugh out the day help me maximise my glycogen storage, the amount of carbohydrates you eat determines the amount of glycogen stored in the liver and muscles, which inturn greatly affects your performance.

Even when cutting and consuming low amount of carbs I still divided them up throughout the day, and this really works well for me.

This is exactly what I do daily. Spread those carbs out so that my body never feels that crash effect. I am cutting hard right now but what little carbs I am eating I spread over the entire day. Great post for discussion Radar.

 

[RADAR]

im about as energetic as bricks.. but i am on low carb to cut up someon give me some advice for ... trucks sakes

Bren This is what i do before i work out, I eat a bowl of Raisins,or Grapes, Then i down one Scoop of N2KTS (NTBM,and 4 power chew tablets) this gives me explosive power the rest of the day, however This does nothing to build muscle,so later i have a large glass of Milk and 6 tablets of Gear(NTBM)ntbm=RADAR15 for 15% off.

 

[lartinos]

Orals and bloat have caused me lethargy in the past for sure.

 

[zwhit]

only things to ever give me lethargy is beastdrol and tren. Two of the most toxic AAS.

Tren is from the insomnia I'm almost sure of though

 

[C.K.]

anything toxic makes me feel like garbage...

 

[zwhit]

Yeah bro, superdrol makes me feel worse than anything.

 

[JAKE-PATRIOTS]

Take enough of the CNS stimulants of your choice and you'll have plenty of energy. You may not ever sleep again, but that just leaves you with more time to train!

 

[FlexManning]

Patrick Arnold wrote an article in Muscular Development recently suggesting that published studies indicate that much of the lethargy on cycles relates to thyroid suppression.

 

[CoBra666]

ive noticed the lethargy with superdrol while on low carb diets, even a little boost in carbs made a noticeable difference. would something like need2slin also help?