Let the the Transdermal Tren/Test stack begin!

[saxon369]

Krav how many wks are you planning to run your cycle? Did you get 2 bottles of test/tren each or just 1 bottle each? Also is this your first real AAS cycle? If so you really don't need 700mg of test wk for your first cycle! And tren for a first cycle even if its just a transdermal, really isn't smart. But that's just IMO!

Not trying to be a dick, just trying to watch out for you!

 

[kravmaga02]

Krav how many wks are you planning to run your cycle? Did you get 2 bottles of test/tren each or just 1 bottle each? Also is this your first real AAS cycle? If so you really don't need 700mg of test wk for your first cycle! And tren for a first cycle even if its just a transdermal, really isn't smart. But that's just IMO!

Not trying to be a dick, just trying to watch out for you!

Not at all man, I appreciate your honesty and concern that's why I am logging this to get advice and critique from people with more experience.

I was thinking 8-10 weeks depending on how my body reacts. I have done AAS before, I have done a 4 week SD cycle, a SD/LMG stack, and a low dose SD cut. It has been a year and a half since I've have anything other than herbal supps.

I did everything right, didn't have any sides except a little ball shrinkage towards the end. Got great gains but the LMG made me put on a little more fat than I was going for, it wasn't exactly a clean bulk.

This is my first cycle with these compounds though, and I was thinking that dosage of Test may be overkill but I noticed many people saying that 350mg a week wouldnt produce very noticeable effects. That's why I was thinking of that dose.

As for the Tren, I figured if I wanted dramatic effects then it would be a good stack. Obviously I don't want to f^ck myself up here, but from what I've seen if I'm careful then I'll more than likely be fine. Is it more volatile than oral Superdrol? I handled SD well and I heard that can be pretty intense for some people.

Do you think I should run the test alone for awhile and see how it goes before I add the Tren? I was considering doing that anyway since I've never had test or tren before.

 

[lrkoehle]

Krav how many wks are you planning to run your cycle? Did you get 2 bottles of test/tren each or just 1 bottle each? Also is this your first real AAS cycle? If so you really don't need 700mg of test wk for your first cycle! And tren for a first cycle even if its just a transdermal, really isn't smart. But that's just IMO!

Not trying to be a dick, just trying to watch out for you!

I agree with Saxon's concerns. Tren + Nolva is one red flag in your plan, and prolactin control with tren is another. These seem to be common mistakes, but are mistakes that if made could lead to $10k gyno excision surgery. Just be careful man.

Also, for prolactin control, there are multiple options out there, so if the Caber is too expensive, try something else, like Prami, which was suggested. Caber & Prami are both dopamine agonists, and dopamine is a prolactin antagonist (i.e. dopamine decreases prolactin production), so most dopamine agonists should work. I've seen Prami on research chem sites for less than the $200 some dollars you said the Caber would cost; just another option.

 

[kravmaga02]

I agree with Saxon's concerns. Tren + Nolva is one red flag in your plan, and prolactin control with tren is another. These seem to be common mistakes, but are mistakes that if made could lead to $10k gyno excision surgery. Just be careful man.

Also, for prolactin control, there are multiple options out there, so if the Caber is too expensive, try something else, like Prami, which was suggested. Caber & Prami are both dopamine agonists, and dopamine is a prolactin antagonist (i.e. dopamine decreases prolactin production), so most dopamine agonists should work. I've seen Prami on research chem sites for less than the $200 some dollars you said the Caber would cost; just another option.

I found a source for caber that was more affordable and have ordered some already. I posted a question about caber dosage earlier but I didn't get an answer.

I was going to do it at .5mg a week, since it is supposed to be pretty strong stuff. Does that sound about right?

...At this point I'm thinkin about just running test I'm starting to get a little freaked out about tren lol

 

[FX4LIFE]

Anyone who says tren + nolva = gyno is an idiot. It is complete broscience. Nolva is the only thing I can run with tren that actually prevents gyno flaresn.Search around and you'll see I'm def not the only one bro. Btw I have pubertal gyno as well. Nolva on cycle prevents flare ups.

 

[lrkoehle]

I found a source for caber that was more affordable and have ordered some already. I posted a question about caber dosage earlier but I didn't get an answer.

I was going to do it at .5mg a week, since it is supposed to be pretty strong stuff. Does that sound about right?

...At this point I'm thinkin about just running test I'm starting to get a little freaked out about tren lol

I have never used tren or caber myself, so I cannot speak from personal experience, but that dosing sounds about right from what I have read. As for a Test only cycle, that would certainly be safer, especially if this is one of your first couple cycles. Tren is some serious stuff. Although there are not any in depth logs of this new transdermal test, test only cycles have traditionally been the way many users first break into the AAS world. Just be careful, and keep researching; if you wanna use the tren, then be sure to read a bunch of traditional tren logs as the transdermal tren will have some of the same side effects and require many of the same precautions. And if you don't think you wanna use the tren this time around, then save it for after other more experienced users have logged it. No shame in that (that's my plan right now).

 

[saxon369]

Krav, nolva is garbage period!!

If you decide to run the tren I think you would get very good results with 350mgs a wk of test and 350 a wk of tren. More is not always better with AAS.

I would run it like this.

Wks 1-10. Trans test 50mg/1ml Ed split am-pm
Wks 1-8 Trans tren 50mg/1ml Ed split am-pm
Wks 1-10 adex .5mg eod
Wks 1-8 caber .25mg e3d
Wks 6-10 HCgenerate 5 caps Ed split am-noon-pm
Wks 1-8. N2guard 7 caps Ed split am-noon-pm

PCT
Wks 11-14 clomid 25/25/12.5/12.5mg
Wks 11-14 unleashed/postcycle combo
Wks 11-14 DAA 3g Ed
Wks 11-14 Formastanzol 3 pumps am-pm

This is how I would run it, maybe someone else will chime in and Change anything that's not right!

Good luck bro! I would like to follow along if you log it.

 

[JewJitsu012]

following along

 

[superturkey]

Krav, nolva is garbage period!!

If you decide to run the tren I think you would get very good results with 350mgs a wk of test and 350 a wk of tren. More is not always better with AAS.

I would run it like this.

Wks 1-10. Trans test 50mg/1ml Ed split am-pm
Wks 1-8 Trans tren 50mg/1ml Ed split am-pm
Wks 1-10 adex .5mg eod
Wks 1-8 caber .25mg e3d
Wks 6-10 HCgenerate 5 caps Ed split am-noon-pm
Wks 1-8. N2guard 7 caps Ed split am-noon-pm

PCT
Wks 11-14 clomid 25/25/12.5/12.5mg
Wks 11-14 unleashed/postcycle combo
Wks 11-14 DAA 3g Ed
Wks 11-14 Formastanzol 3 pumps am-pm

This is how I would run it, maybe someone else will chime in and Change anything that's not right!

Good luck bro! I would like to follow along if you log it.

Perfect cycle except id run

trans tren and caber week 2-10
Aromisin instead of adex

 

[notjake11]

One last change I would make to the recommended cycle - continue n2guard for at least a week or two after the cycle ends into PCT. People think it's time to stop taking it when they stop taking AAS, but the stuff is still in your system for a while and still affecting your organs, lipids and BP. Give your body a little more help dealing with that for a while.