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elcaballo

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Im about 5'11" 245 lbs and fat % of about 16-18 % not sure. I wanna run a cycle that will get me ripped while keeping quality mass. Also diet and cardio** base on my pics can someone give an advice of what my cycle should look like
 
a cycle wont get your ripped if you have a high bf like yourself. you have a long way to go to be ripped. get the body fat down a lot more and then do a cycle.
 
dabuffguy said:
a cycle wont get your ripped if you have a high bf like yourself. you have a long way to go to be ripped. get the body fat down a lot more and then do a cycle.
Bull shit. Yes aas can cut fat. I don't know why people say it can't.
 
needtogetaas said:
Bull shit. Yes anabolic androgenic steroids can cut fat. I don't know why people say it can't.

u r right. but what happens to the fat when they are off cycle and the habits r still the same? rebound.
 
people with higher bf% can have more estrogen side effects as fatcells cuase more of the estrogen converting enyzme to be present in thebody.
Should a fat person use steroids I say no due to side effects gyno water retention and so on.They should lean out and save themselves the higher risk for side effects
 
I concur I think it would be a good idea to be sub 15% bf b4 jumping on cycle. But like Needtoo said highly Anabolic compounds would be your best bet when it comes to burning the fat for the ripped look.
 
I had used test,Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - ,Winstrol - stanozolol,cytomel,Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - in the past... .... this picture here was taken in November of 2006 while I was running test with Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - .. Im not a novice in the game, but is always good to seek advice from people with more experience.. I started doing steroids back when I was a college ball player in 2001.. Dont think I have 20 % bf, right now I have been doing cardio at 30 mins a day for the last 2 weeks. I dont it much crap, probably I only have to cut in the rice other than that my diet looks pretty clean. just wanna know what compounds will be the best to cut down, other than diet and cardio
 
i think it is easier for those with higher bf 2 lose fat & gain muscleat the same time.

primmo var & perhaps a little eca
 
A cycle comprising of:

Test prop 1 ml day
Tren Ace, 1ml day
Masteron 1ml day
Winny 50mg day
t3 25mcg's day

With the right diet will rip the fuck out of the fat. I choose to stick deca at 400mg per week into this mix as well, but shouldn't really due to too many nandrolones with that and tren, but it works for me.

I dropped loads of BF with this, then after to finish off, 4 weeks of PGCL 1 shot per day.

Just in time for summer!
 
chazk said:
people with higher bf% can have more estrogen side effects as fatcells cuase more of the estrogen converting enyzme to be present in thebody.
Should a fat person use steroids I say no due to side effects gynecomastia water retention and so on.They should lean out and save themselves the higher risk for side effects

Not to mention HDL levels from juice and a bad diet of cheeseburgers...
 
needtogetaas said:
Bull shit. Yes anabolic androgenic steroids can cut fat. I don't know why people say it can't.


needto, my good bro, not what i meant. you take too much out of the post that wasn't actually said.

sorry.

What i meant was:

At his stage of having that much fat on his body, a cycle wont get him ripped because it isn't going to drop 50% of his total bf. Yes, it will help, but not THAT much.

I didn't mean to come across as saying that anabolic androgenic steroids doesn't and can't burn fat. It will not make the total amount of improvement he is looking for.
 
8and20 said:
i think it is easier for those with higher bf 2 lose fat & gain muscleat the same time.

primmo Anavar - oxandrolone - & perhaps a little eca - ephedrine - caffeine - aspirin

I agree.


Those with a considerable amount of extra weight don't need to bulk diet. my lurpy ass does.
 
just run test with eq if you want to stack something and have your anti-e's ready. figure out your daily calorie requirements and eat 500cals below maintenance. high protein diet and lots of water maybe think about an e/c/a stack that shit melts fat off me.
 
needtogetaas said:
the guy can get a lot out of a good cutting cycle. We are not talking about some fat out of shape guy.
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that's an old pic from more than a year ago. his new pics are different.

if that pic you showed was inded him now, i would definitely suggest a cutting cycle.

in fact, if he does want to run a cycle, obviously he would run a cutter, but as he described the look he wanted by being lean and ripped, it won't get him there. it will definitely help a lot though. i just don't want him finishing up and not being ripped and be disappointed for some reason that can be explained as his bf just needs to be lower.
 
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