Latest Blood Test. SURPRISING!

[Nelson Montana]

Everything is good. HDL, PSA, Liver, all top notch. Total T 823. Estrones 13.

But the big surprise is my Free T has gotten even higher. An even 5:00 That's on the "high side" of a healthy 25 year old. (Normal is 0.95-4.50). For a male over 50 the range is 0.80 - 3;50. Fuck that.

Once again my HRT is 100 mgs of T, UNLEASHED (To )which t I attribute the high Free T) and POST CYCLE daily. 1/4 mg of dex 2X's a week alternating with 1/4 mg of san 2X's a week. 1500 i/u's HCG once every 8 weeks at which point I do 75I.U's of HMG. Two months later I repeat.

Oh, and my 25 mgs of d-bol once a week. And I wouldn't mind doing an occasional addition of Primo for 6 weeks twice a year -- if it were actually available.

That's it bros. Still working like a charm.

 

[Aureliuz]

That's an interesting protocol you got there. If it's working, keep on keeping on.

 

[centy]

What would your E be without the adex or san? (What is san?)

I'm on 100mg and my E is in the mid 30's and I'd like to bring it down. Safely.

 

[Guvna]

Hmm...what is your reasoning behind the once a week dbol?

and why are you alternating dex?

 

[DJ_UFO]

Good shit there Nelson! That's a healthy cock!

 

[Nelson Montana]

Good shit there Nelson! That's a healthy cock!

LOL That's my main priority! He's my best friend!

The once a week d-bol is a part of my pre-leg workout regime. ZIP, VIGOR, D-bol and a couple of cups of coffee.

"san" is aromasan. I switch them up because they both work for me and I feel it's best not to rely on one thing for two long -- keeps the receptors on their toes.

Not sure what my e would be without the dex and san. It was hovering near 30 when I added the POST CYCLE and that got it down to around 20 -- which is okay but I feel I'm a little harder when it get around 10. Too much lower than that wouldn't be healthy.

I'd imagine adding more natty anti e's such as the ones in Sustain would help as well but the bit of dex really keeps it in check. The dosage is so low it's almost a non factor in terms of toxicity and price.

 

[OneBreath]

You're doing it all wrong. You need nolva in there. (ducking)

On a serious note have you and your doctor ever discussed trying to get that total t over 1,000 by upping your weekly dose just a tad?

I read an article recently by an HRT doc that said he would work with the patient and dose to try and hit the score the patient wanted (within reason and ethics of course). I thought that was pretty cool.

 

[Nelson Montana]

You're doing it all wrong. You need nolva in there. (ducking)

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WHY I OUGHTA....

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On a serious note have you and your doctor ever discussed trying to get that total t over 1,000 by upping your weekly dose just a tad?

I read an article recently by an HRT doc that said he would work with the patient and dose to try and hit the score the patient wanted (within reason and ethics of course). I thought that was pretty cool.

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OVER 1000 WOULD BE CONSIDERED HIGH AND I'D RATHER NOT SET OFF ANY FLAGS. 800-900 IS FINE.

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[Ross]

800-900ng/dl is not going to have any significant effect on body composition or strength, although it will jack up your libido and enhance your mood.

 

[halfcenturian]

It's a beautiful thing, bro.

 

[Nelson Montana]

800-900ng/dl is not going to have any significant effect on body composition or strength, although it will jack up your libido and enhance your mood.

Not significant in terms of freaky mass but realize that any extraordinary natural bodybuilder is unlikely to have a T level in that area. And those who do are the ones who tend to be able to put on the most muscle. Also, at my age I'm not looking to put on more size so again, having the T of a healthy 30 year old athlete works just fine for me.

Then again, there's always that extra Primo...

 

[artificialaspirations]

when do you dose the adex and san in respect to the test injections?

 

[Nelson Montana]

when do you dose the adex and san in respect to the test injections?

Injections are always on Friday. e dosing on Mon and Thurs.

 

[heavy_duty]

so your libido is like a 25 year old? 30? 35? do tell

 

[Nelson Montana]

so your libido is like a 25 year old? 30? 35? do tell

Ha! I'm not sure libido is entirely hormonal but it's as high as it's ever been.

 

[centy]

Can you elaborate on the hCG/hMG usage?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Can you elaborate on the hCG/hMG usage?

I do a dose every 8 weeks. 1500 i.u's of HCG split over 2 days. 8 weeks later, I do the HMG -- 75 i.u's over 2 days.

Most people use WAAY too much. I don't even notice any testicular atrophy over the course of 2 months, even afer a Primo course. But after treatment the boys do seem to be a bit "fuller."

 

[10001110101]

nelson, i'm glad for your good test results it's good to hear you're in good health.

but seriously man would you expect your test levels to be low? i dont get it you're on HRT which guarantees optimal test levels (assuming dosage/frequency is on point)

sometimes i read your threads and i wonder about you man... you seem odd and strange at the same time.

i've seen a few threads like this by you... it's no miracle that you have an 800 test level... you have a higher level than me and i'm 25! before ever using AAS i got tested (at 23 y/o) and i was in mid 400's...

i just dont' really see what there is to brag about... maybe if you were talking about a great lipid panel/bone density test/etc... i would see the point of posting this info...

 

[Nelson Montana]

nelson, i'm glad for your good test results it's good to hear you're in good health.

but seriously man would you expect your test levels to be low? i dont get it you're on HRT which guarantees optimal test levels (assuming dosage/frequency is on point)

sometimes i read your threads and i wonder about you man... you seem odd and strange at the same time.

i've seen a few threads like this by you... it's no miracle that you have an 800 test level... you have a higher level than me and i'm 25! before ever using AAS i got tested (at 23 y/o) and i was in mid 400's...

i just dont' really see what there is to brag about... maybe if you were talking about a great lipid panel/bone density test/etc... i would see the point of posting this info...

Not bragging bro. Yes, in part it's a statement of what combo of compounds have produced desirable results. But it's more.

Of course my T will be high because I'm on HRT. HOWEVER, it's only 100 mgs whereas other guys think they need twice that much and more to get their T near 1000. But more significantly is the FREE TESTOSTERONE. You can have a ton of test and still not have a lot of FREE T. And that's what matters most. I attribute that to the UNLEASHED and the dex. And it's even higher, though it tends to lower as we age. So it is pretty impressive if I do say so myself.

 

[Ross]

Nelson, have you ever tried AndroGenerator? It increases both TOTAL and FREE Testosterone levels BIG TIME. Check it out my friend..

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nelson, have you ever tried AndroGenerator? It increases both TOTAL and FREE Testosterone levels BIG TIME. Check it out my friend..

No I haven't but I've used the ingredients in it and honestly, felt nothing.

Epimedium does not increase T . That's been proven . It does have a libido heightening effect in some.

Tribulus elevates LH slightly, which may increase a little T and probably even more estrogen. It never did anything for me.

Vitex increases prolactin. No thanks. I'd avoid it at all cost.

Cinnamomum bark? Is that just campor? I didn't even think that was something that should be ingested.