Last shot...

[tricky124]

Monday is my last shot of a 12 week cycle.
Should I start my HCG on the same day or after 5 days?

 

[eddymerckx]

Monday is my last shot of a 12 week cycle.
Should I start my HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - on the same day or after 5 days?

what was the last shot?

 

[tricky124]

4ml of test cyp.
2ml of deca.
50mg Proviron ed.

cheers bro.

 

[holy ghost]

how were your gains?

 

[xrsist]

many will say you should have run h c g thru out your cycle but you can also start h c g the day after your last shot of test for 10 days straight at 250-500ius ED. wait 5 days then start clomid at 50mg ED for 20-30 days. an otc supp wouldnt hurt either

 

[eddymerckx]

i would wait 3 weeks or so for the test to get down (its half life is 12 days) otherwise it's really just a waste--imo, but some guys run it all through their cycle.

 

[nzrodney]

Cyp is active in the body for 15-16 days. THats why most start PCT after 2 weeks. Yes HCG is best run thrugh the cycle & cleared from the body 3 days before the last shot. Ther are for & against this theory. Follow xrsist advice for post cycle use & add serms or AIs for the following 3-4 weeks

 

[the_alcatraz]

I would run it throughout the cycle...

wait 5 days then start clomid at 50mg ED for 20-30 days

Should you wait for 5 days with pretty much anything you take that has to do with testosterone?

 

[bigmodean]

Waited 7 days after last cycle,worked well,waited 5 days this time,also use Clomid after 10 days of hcg,for 3 weeks,50mg/ed(you can frontload clomid for a week at 100mg,but some bro's would likely object.)

 

[xrsist]

i would wait 3 weeks or so for the test to get down (its half life is 12 days) otherwise it's really just a waste--imo, but some guys run it all through their cycle.

you dont have to wait for the test to clear to use h c g bro

 

[bsdgeek]

Monday is my last shot of a 12 week cycle.
Should I start my HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - on the same day or after 5 days?

bro, since you haven't been using it while on, you need to wait 12 - 14 days from the day of your last pin. you'll front load the first pin(if you're gonna do 500 iu a day, then on the first pin do 2000 iu), then four days later do 1500, then three days later do 1500 again, etc etc. Your last dose will be about 750 iu, before coming off. Start your clomid the same day as your first pin of hcg, run it at 100 mgs for 3 weeks, then drop to 50 mgs for 3 weeks. you may need up to 3 bottles of hcg, you should finish the hcg about the time you drop back to 50 mgs of clomid. if you need anything else with this, just pm me.

hey xrsist, what's up bro? haven't seen you on here in a couple days, where u been??

 

[xrsist]

hey xrsist, what's up bro? haven't seen you on here in a couple days, where u been??

iv been here but only an hour or so. im on the gold coast at the moment training with my brother, hittin the sand every morning, awesome weather, awesome women, you cant go wrong. is 23 celsius here at the moment and its 11.30pm!
how you been bro? which state you at over there? isnt it snowing and cold as fuck over there atm?

 

[bsdgeek]

iv been here but only an hour or so. im on the gold coast at the moment training with my brother, hittin the sand every morning, awesome weather, awesome women, you cant go wrong. is 23 celsius here at the moment and its 11.30pm!
how you been bro? which state you at over there? isnt it snowing and cold as fuck over there atm?

it just got real cold the last day or two, i'm in Alabama, so we don't get much snow here. it's 7:40 over here. So, it's about 75 fahrenheit over there, man, and on the beach, wish i was there with you guys. it's 1 or 2 celsius over here, cold ma brotha!!

 

[tricky124]

Cheers Bro's, much appriciated..
I plan to take HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - the same day as last shot at 1500iu and another at 5 (1500iu) days and the final 5 days later (1500iu).
2 weeks later (from last shot) start Clomid at 50mg per day for 3 weeks with Derma sustain for a whole 4 weeks.

Hi Holy,
Gains over the course have been good with a total of 14lb's, some of which is about 2lb of BF.
Very pleased with the results.

Please let me say a thanks to you Bro,s for the help along the way.

THANKS!!!

 

[xrsist]

it just got real cold the last day or two, i'm in Alabama, so we don't get much snow here. it's 7:40 over here. So, it's about 75 fahrenheit over there, man, and on the beach, wish i was there with you guys. it's 1 or 2 celsius over here, cold ma brotha!!

im sitting on my balcony and can see the surf bro. you should come over for the indys one year. no training gets done but its an unforgetable weekend.

 

[bsdgeek]

im sitting on my balcony and can see the surf bro. you should come over for the indys one year. no training gets done but its an unforgetable weekend.

bro, i'll definitely come over one day, i've been dying to see australia. that's awesome, why in the hell are you just looking at the surf??? why not be in it with some hottie, i mean, aussie women are fuckin beautiful, and i fuckin love their accent. i'll definitely be comin over to hang with ya!! but....i'll have to bring the wife, so i'll only get to look. LOL

 

[Nelson Montana]

bro, since you haven't been using it while on, you need to wait 12 - 14 days from the day of your last pin. you'll front load the first pin(if you're gonna do 500 iu a day, then on the first pin do 2000 iu), then four days later do 1500, then three days later do 1500 again, etc etc. Your last dose will be about 750 iu, before coming off. Start your clomid the same day as your first pin of HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - , run it at 100 mgs for 3 weeks, then drop to 50 mgs for 3 weeks. you may need up to 3 bottles of HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - , you should finish the HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - about the time you drop back to 50 mgs of clomid. if you need anything else with this, just pm me.

hey xrsist, what's up bro? haven't seen you on here in a couple days, where u been??

Way too much IMO.

 

[DannoMight]

I'd wait 2 weeks. til ur last shot actually starts to lose potency.

 

[xrsist]

bro, i'll definitely come over one day, i've been dying to see australia. that's awesome, why in the hell are you just looking at the surf??? why not be in it with some hottie, i mean, aussie women are fuckin beautiful, and i fuckin love their accent. i'll definitely be comin over to hang with ya!! but....i'll have to bring the wife, so i'll only get to look. LOL

because its half past midnight here bro almost time to hit the sack. had 2 random hotties ask us if they could join in training with us earlier this morning on the sand (we said yes of course), they were in bikinis at 10am, was great, they wouldnt come have lunch with us today but said theyl be back tomorrow morning so i guess we'll just wait and see.

 

[bsdgeek]

Way too much IMO.

maybe, depends on what his 4 ml of test and 2 ml deca were, if he's taking 1g of test a week, 500 iu a day isn't a high dose. and for the short time he'll be on it, compared to the amount of time it'll take the test to clear.... what would you recommend sir?? seriously, this issue gets debated so much, and i have md's assisting with my info, but i'd like to hear why it's too much. and i know some md's don't know shit, but i know one who's a former competitor, in his late 40's early 50's, built like i wished i were, and fully subscribes to what i'm talking about, and has for years with no problems. (the one you asked me a while back if his dick still worked, well- i'm not sure about that, but i saw his bloodwork a few weeks back, and his levels were awesome.) and let me say it again, he's pretty fuckin big.

 

[bsdgeek]

because its half past midnight here bro almost time to hit the sack. had 2 random hotties ask us if they could join in training with us earlier this morning on the sand (we said yes of course), they were in bikinis at 10am, was great, they wouldnt come have lunch with us today but said theyl be back tomorrow morning so i guess we'll just wait and see.

awesome, keep us posted!! hell....take a few pics LOL throw a stroke in for the geek bro!!!! LOL

 

[eddymerckx]

just my 2 cents....but with the value of the dollar, i guess my 1 cent

one constant in the literature appears to be that the pref dose is the lowest possible and because the results are easy to determine in fairly short order (I use a cheap pair of calipers to measure) it should be easy to determine that dose.

I've had great results w/500 every 3rd day for three weeks after a 16 week 500 wk equipoise/500 wk test e cycleand waited for the test to get cut in half and half again, so 21 days--and i am 41. I am not sure of the numbers, but my endo said they are fine/normal.

the high doses scare the crap out of me as i would rather save that in case i am ever shut down big time--and then let the endo do the dose schedule.

 

[xrsist]

awesome, keep us posted!! hell....take a few pics LOL throw a stroke in for the geek bro!!!! LOL

was a good morning bro, the girls turned up, we trained a bit, they came had lunch with us and were meeting up with them tonight for drinks. fuck i love the gold coast. if i get a chance bro ill hit it once for ya!

 

[the_alcatraz]

was a good morning bro, the girls turned up, we trained a bit, they came had lunch with us and were meeting up with them tonight for drinks. fuck i love the gold coast. if i get a chance bro ill hit it once for ya!

haha...nice