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The stomach muscles are totally different between these two. Also, Fonz has bigger arms and never had an 'egg-shaped' appearance to them.

Congrats KW! Like I mentioned earlier, you have done some great work to get yourself into shape.

BMJ
 
Kingwinny said:
OR an apology...... Pictures or an apology, your choice.

I absolutely agree. I've read most all of this SHIT and it makes me sick. I'm thouroughly surprised at OMEGA's behaviour throughout this little fiasco as I assumed he was a better, more sensible person (although I will give you plenty of credit for not being a completely rude dick, considering your emotions were running so high?).

I will agree, the physiques are fairly similar (you look better kw) but the way OMEGA handled the situation was all wrong. He was making such a huge deal about it but all he ever kept saying was "post pictures of your face" etc, on and on and on. Why didn't you just PM kingwinny and ask him to send you a PRIVATE picture of his face for proof?! Your a vet here so we all know his identity would have been safe with you and everyone would take your word if you said it wasn't fonz. I personally think you were just trying to cause a scene, but I could be wrong and don't take offense to that.

Don't get me wrong, I've still got plenty of respect for you and all that jazz, but you really could and should have handled that situation better. Especially instead of really blowing it up to the porpotion that you did.

Even if you don't post your pictures I think you owe him an apology either way for all the grief you caused him.

Chris
 
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khemix said:
I absolutely agree. I've read most all of this SHIT and it makes me sick. I'm thouroughly surprised at OMEGA's behaviour throughout this little fiasco as I assumed he was a better, more sensible person

Chris


Chris, Fonzie roasted many and he raosted me bad....

it is not unfair when myself and many others had a suspicion against KW especially considering the pics

that is the way the cookie crumbles, its not perfect, but something had to be said
 
WannaImpress said:
Oh now your full of it KW! LOL


;)

LOL


Ok guys, I'm sorry I exploded, especially on you Omega....let's call a truce.

I just didnt want to be confused with a scammer. There are a lot of crazy people out there, and I don't want someone who got burned by Fonz to think it was me.

Here is something to think about.......If I was Fonz, you would have to give me credit for login in every 3 weeks over the past 5 years so my Elite account didnt get frozen until I became platinum. Do you guys remember when Fonz came back as "Q" ? Don't you think he would rather come back with an account from 2000 (such as mine) instead of "Q" from 2004 or 2005? Do you really think he was holding out for 5 years to become a scammer again?

Enough of this stuff.......it's over.......let's move on with this board and start making some good posts and dieting, training, new supplements, gear, etc etc.

Karma to all....you get the first hit Omega. It wont be red, I promise!

:king:
 
khemix said:
I absolutely agree. I've read most all of this SHIT and it makes me sick. I'm thouroughly surprised at OMEGA's behaviour throughout this little fiasco as I assumed he was a better, more sensible person (although I will give you plenty of credit for not being a completely rude dick, considering your emotions were running so high?).

I will agree, the physiques are fairly similar (you look better kw) but the way OMEGA handled the situation was all wrong. He was making such a huge deal about it but all he ever kept saying was "post pictures of your face" etc, on and on and on. Why didn't you just PM kingwinny and ask him to send you a PRIVATE picture of his face for proof?! Your a vet here so we all know his identity would have been safe with you and everyone would take your word if you said it wasn't fonz. I personally think you were just trying to cause a scene, but I could be wrong and don't take offense to that.

Don't get me wrong, I've still got plenty of respect for you and all that jazz, but you really could and should have handled that situation better. Especially instead of really blowing it up to the porpotion that you did.

Even if you don't post your pictures I think you owe him an apology either way for all the grief you caused him.

Chris

This stuff is over, we know everyone overreacted.......... thanks for the compliments! K to you!

:king:
 
This might sound gay but, now when I am on the tredmill doing my second hour of cardio for the day your pics are what motivate me and what I shoot to look for. I will hopefully be as lean as you here in a few weeks but definitally not as thick yet. Shootin for chrismas. Im 6'0'' and will have to be at like 230 to even slightly compare. You are a true inspiration for me at least. Thanks for commin out of the woodwork. If you dont mind id shure like to PM you and pic your brain a bit.
 
Ive read all this shit to but despite all the craziness, the most amazing part of this thread is your physique. SICK!! That’s all I can say. K to you.
 
I think KW is a good bro. Lookin' diez. Borg where are those pics you fuggin' mutant? :Chef: :tuc:
 
Borg4902 said:
This might sound gay but, now when I am on the tredmill doing my second hour of cardio for the day your pics are what motivate me and what I shoot to look for. I will hopefully be as lean as you here in a few weeks but definitally not as thick yet. Shootin for chrismas. Im 6'0'' and will have to be at like 230 to even slightly compare. You are a true inspiration for me at least. Thanks for commin out of the woodwork. If you dont mind id shure like to PM you and pic your brain a bit.

I'm flattered....I really appreciate it....it's not gay either, don't worry about it, everyone has picked up a muscle magazine and said "i want to look like that".....the problem is that most people don't have the dedication and will power to get there.

PM me, I'd be more than happy to help you with your diet and training. The first thing we have to work on is getting you off the treadmill, you don't need 2 hours of cardio to look like me :-)

:king:
 
lefler said:
Ive read all this shit to but despite all the craziness, the most amazing part of this thread is your physique. SICK!! That’s all I can say. K to you.

LOL.....thanks man, that means a lot..... work as hard as you can and you'll be posting your pics before you know it.

:king:
 
KW, like so many others have said, you look fuggin great, and I've only seen the pic that Needsize posted. You truly are an inspiration as I'm the same height, age, and seem to have the same genetics (god skipped me on the big calves and doubled up on the arm portion). I'm not as lean as you are but not too far off, however, I weigh 165 currently, and I don't plan on a cycle for a little while yet ($). I would love to hear more about your diet and how you train and also if you think I could get to 190 without having to baloon up to 210 then cut. I would love to see the pics that everyone else is raving about so hope to see them back up soon. Hope you stick around and continue to offer your advice. K to you
 
Kingwinny said:
LOL


Ok guys, I'm sorry I exploded, especially on you Omega....let's call a truce.

I just didnt want to be confused with a scammer. There are a lot of crazy people out there, and I don't want someone who got burned by Fonz to think it was me.

Here is something to think about.......If I was Fonz, you would have to give me credit for login in every 3 weeks over the past 5 years so my Elite account didnt get frozen until I became platinum. Do you guys remember when Fonz came back as "Q" ? Don't you think he would rather come back with an account from 2000 (such as mine) instead of "Q" from 2004 or 2005? Do you really think he was holding out for 5 years to become a scammer again?

Enough of this stuff.......it's over.......let's move on with this board and start making some good posts and dieting, training, new supplements, gear, etc etc.

Karma to all....you get the first hit Omega. It wont be red, I promise!

:king:
Props to you for being so good natured about it! Keep up the good work, bro!

I would hit you with K but the fucking Karma Bookie forum stole all of my karma... I have an addiction. ;)
 
"you don't need 2 hours of cardio to look like me :-) "
I do in order to get my fat in in shape for state. Trust me, Down over 40lbs so far. Stll holding in low abbs and low back. I post when this fucker from e-bay gets his shit together and mails me my new handycam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
OMEGA said:
Chris, Fonzie roasted many and he raosted me bad....

it is not unfair when myself and many others had a suspicion against KW especially considering the pics

that is the way the cookie crumbles, its not perfect, but something had to be said


we understand bro uve said it a million times....be a man and tell him your bad....its not that serious
 
Borg4902 said:
"you don't need 2 hours of cardio to look like me :-) "
I do in order to get my fat in in shape for state. Trust me, Down over 40lbs so far. Stll holding in low abbs and low back. I post when this fucker from e-bay gets his shit together and mails me my new handycam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To add to this question.... KW did you have to do cardio to get down to that bodyfat? The reason I ask is if someone does do cardio to get down to that bodyfat, will they rebound back up if they stop the cardio?


VW
 
OMEGA said:
Chris, Fonzie roasted many and he raosted me bad....

it is not unfair when myself and many others had a suspicion against KW especially considering the pics

that is the way the cookie crumbles, its not perfect, but something had to be said

Your absolutely right, its not unfair for you to have suspicions about kw considering how he looks and especially to the degree you say you got burned. But it is most definantly unfair for you to ask that he post a picture of his FACE, on a steroid website, after he has admitted to using them. He definantly shows concerns about keeping his face off the net - he has every reason. I was simply pointing out the fact that you could have handled it in a much better way and avoided all this conflict. I still think you should apologize to him - others apparently agree with me. Man up, nigga! (Training Day bitches!)

With all that aside, it's good to see KW will continue posting and contributing and I'm especially surprised he's not left with a bitter taste in his mouth!. No hard feeling OMEGA and I hope you will say the same. I'll give you karma when it tell's me I've spread enough around! To the gym for me!

Chris
 
van_wilder said:
To add to this question.... KW did you have to do cardio to get down to that bodyfat? The reason I ask is if someone does do cardio to get down to that bodyfat, will they rebound back up if they stop the cardio?

My advice is to diet as hard as you can, and then when you reach a plateau, add the cardio. When you get to your goal, slowly cut back on cardio and then just do a maintainance level. If you feel you aren't as lean, up it again.

But rely on your diet moreso than cardio.

:King:
 
on the contrary kingwinny, what is your style/diet routine fir puttin on some muscle? if i diet down any more ill look really fugged up. whats your nutritional aproach to building muscle?
 
hammercurls said:
from stud to a dud in less than a week lol

Don't think I forgot about this....a simply apology is all I ask and then I will gladly help you with any questions you have. You have the audacity to talk down to me and then ask for advice?

Why do you want advice from a dud anyways?

And Omega, if your out there, grow a pair and apologize as well.



:king:
 
Kingwinny said:
Don't think I forgot about this....a simply apology is all I ask and then I will gladly help you with any questions you have. You have the audacity to talk down to me and then ask for advice?

Why do you want advice from a dud anyways?

And Omega, if your out there, grow a pair and apologize as well.



:king:

LOL......KW holding a grudge ;) What happened to back to being kind and caring Kingwinny. :-)

But bump for nutritional question.
 
sorry dude! but my comment was aimed at the masses. elite is quick to torch a bro!! in retrospect my comment was not even closley remote to mocking you or makin fun of you.

fuck the drama im here to learn
 
hammercurls said:
on the contrary kingwinny, what is your style/diet routine fir puttin on some muscle? if i diet down any more ill look really fugged up. whats your nutritional aproach to building muscle?

Oh what the hell, I'm not going to stoop down to your level.....

7 meals a day with 40g of protein and about 135g of fat per day will keep your muscles full even when training hard. Throw in some dextrose in your post workout shake and in 2 months you will be a totally new person.

7 meals 40g protein = 160 calories, 15g fat =135 calories = 1 meal 295 calories, so figure 320 calories per meal (it's hard to be completely carb free, PB and most protein shakes have a litt) * 7 meals = 2240 calories + your post workout shake 40g protein + 25g dextrose = 260cal.

Total= 2500 calories.

Guaranteed to keep the majority of your muscle and lose fat at the same time. Make sure you keep the intensity up at gym.

Most people when cutting, tend to do lighter weight at the gym...this is a BAD IDEA........keep the weights heavy or your body is going to maintain the amount of muscle required to lift the weight. If you use 60lb dumbells for incline press, you body is not maximizing its muscular potential, and you will not have as much muscle as you would if you did 100's or more.

Dieting cuts you up, not necessarily more reps.........if you want more reps, do supersets.

:king:
 
im not looking for cuts right now although id love em, im just to skinnyfat. dieting is only gonna make me look worst i need mor mass before i startt a shredding regimen.
 
OMEGA said:
bro i'm starting to lose some respect for you man. this winny kat has done nothing to you, yet you ride his ass hard for no reason. maybe you are just jealous cause he actually has the physique most of us strive to achieve.

relax, and let it go. fuck fonz
 
LVTitan said:
bro i'm starting to lose some respect for you man. this winny kat has done nothing to you, yet you ride his ass hard for no reason. maybe you are just jealous cause he actually has the physique most of us strive to achieve.

relax, and let it go. fuck fonz

..
 
LVTitan said:
bro i'm starting to lose some respect for you man. this winny kat has done nothing to you, yet you ride his ass hard for no reason. maybe you are just jealous cause he actually has the physique most of us strive to achieve.

relax, and let it go. fuck fonz

.....
 
OMEGA said:

I wasn't expecting much more from you.....Did you get a headache from thinking of something so creative?

All I can say is.....Fake tough.

It's pretty easy to type "shove it" from your computer and not have to deal with the consequences. I doubt you would say that to someone in person.


You could have just as easily typed "My bad" and I would have had much more respect for you and I'm sure the rest of the board would have as well.


You look like a fool not me.....have some class...we are suppose to be here to help each other out, and when we are wrong about something, we can be man enough to admit it.
 
LVTitan said:
bro i'm starting to lose some respect for you man. this winny kat has done nothing to you, yet you ride his ass hard for no reason. maybe you are just jealous cause he actually has the physique most of us strive to achieve.

relax, and let it go. fuck fonz


You are very observant....Karma to you.

Don't even bother with him, it is clear to see that he is very immature. Not to mention he doesn't contribute anything to the board (at least from the posts I have read over his stay here)

I appreciate the compliments to, just remember anyone can achieve what I did if they set their mind to it.

:king:
 
RvN said:
Come on man, show some class and PM him with an apology or something, at least that way you save face.

Agreed.....but I'm over it, I'd rather him apologize to the board for wasting bandwidth.

I want the 10 minutes of my life back that I wasted reading his posts.

:king:
 
RvN said:
Come on man, show some class and PM him with an apology or something, at least that way you save face.
Yeah show some class and give him an apology. Be a man and fess up when you are wrong or are you to good for that?
 
Kingwinny said:
I wasn't expecting much more from you.....Did you get a headache from thinking of something so creative?

All I can say is.....Fake tough.

It's pretty easy to type "shove it" from your computer and not have to deal with the consequences. I doubt you would say that to someone in person.

.


believe me I would just love to meet you in person
 
LVTitan said:
you're a dipshit dude. i'm done with this thread.

well you can have you opinion and I have mine

as far as myself I have been here quite along time, and am not prone to attacking or being caustic to anyone

but this I consider a differing case, I have my reasons.......

sorry if its impalitable
 
for that matter you can all have your opion but don't jump the gun and crucify me
again I have my reasons.....

I plan on doing a nice little expose' on this site concerning another group of people
so I will save my ammo for that one.....
 
OMEGA said:
well you can have you opinion and I have mine

as far as myself I have been here quite along time, and am not prone to attacking or being caustic to anyone

but this I consider a differing case, I have my reasons.......

sorry if its impalitable
Who cares if you have been on here along time. It doesn't matter. You just can't admit when your wrong. Be a man there's nothing wrong with admitting your wrong.
 
OMEGA said:
for that matter you can all have your opion but don't jump the gun and crucify me
again I have my reasons.....

You're one to talk. Everyone sees you're wrong and you know it. You're totally right about you not usually being caustic, but that isn't an excuse for acting like a bitch when people are requesting you apologize, like you should. And thats exactly it, you're acting like a bitch because you don't have the man-balls to admit when you're wrong and take this one down as a loss. My dad was that way. You're just hurting your name and losing respect and if I were you I would be embarrased for letting people think I'm not man enough to apologize. I know I've lost alot of respect for you, but I doubt that will matter to you. I'm sorry to be so caustic, as you so well put it, but I can't seem to find any reason for you acting this way. You're USUALLY a very sensible, upstanding, long-time EF contributor.

If you don't apologize atleast give us an explanation for the bitch-like actions.

Chris
 
khemix said:
You're one to talk. Everyone sees you're wrong and you know it. You're totally right about you not usually being caustic, but that isn't an excuse for acting like a bitch when people are requesting you apologize, like you should. And thats exactly it, you're acting like a bitch because you don't have the man-balls to admit when you're wrong and take this one down as a loss. My dad was that way. You're just hurting your name and losing respect and if I were you I would be embarrased for letting people think I'm not man enough to apologize. I know I've lost alot of respect for you, but I doubt that will matter to you. I'm sorry to be so caustic, as you so well put it, but I can't seem to find any reason for you acting this way. You're USUALLY a very sensible, upstanding, long-time EF contributor.

If you don't apologize atleast give us an explanation for the bitch-like actions.

Chris


I have my reasons.......

as far as your colorfull use of language it really is not needed
non the less I am not offended for I can see your point of view

have a nice weekend
 
OMEGA said:
I have my reasons.......

as far as your colorfull use of language it really is not needed
non the less I am not offended for I can see your point of view

have a nice weekend

Why are you telling him to have a nice weekend? We all know you will be Elitefitness on Saturday night. ;)

You actually have friends? The way you jump to conclusion and then when you are wrong, can not admit your mistake? Who would want a friend like you?


And don't tell me you wish you could meet me in person, you don't know me. Your an internet bad ass. People like you make me not want to post on fitness sites. The only I keep posting is cause most of the bros out there like to give and take advice. We are here to help each other out, not fight amonst us.

:king:
 
Kingwinny you have been a member for 5 years and posted more in this thread than in all of those years and are doing exactly what you say you do not like ''bitching''.

Omega was wrong about you that simple. He has his reasons to hate Fonz as many others do and he had his suspicions. You have proved them to be false end of story now i am sure if you drop it, Omega already has we can all move on and as you say get back to why we are here ''help eachother out''

Just an observation take it for what it is

Wrongun!
 
Wrongun said:
Kingwinny you have been a member for 5 years and posted more in this thread than in all of those years and are doing exactly what you say you do not like ''bitching''.

Omega was wrong about you that simple. He has his reasons to hate Fonz as many others do and he had his suspicions. You have proved them to be false end of story now i am sure if you drop it, Omega already has we can all move on and as you say get back to why we are here ''help eachother out''

Just an observation take it for what it is

Wrongun!

I'm sure kw just wants the respect of an apology. In my opinion he owe's him that at the very least for putting a bad mark on his name.
 
holy shit kw your fucking physique is fucking amazing.. you happen to have aim/aol i'd like to chat with you about diet..
 
and from that pic that needsize posted... its embarassing for someone to say you resemble fonz.. i feel bad that you had to go through that broski.. :) keep up the good work man..
 
Wrongun said:
Kingwinny you have been a member for 5 years and posted more in this thread than in all of those years and are doing exactly what you say you do not like ''bitching''.

Omega was wrong about you that simple. He has his reasons to hate Fonz as many others do and he had his suspicions. You have proved them to be false end of story now i am sure if you drop it, Omega already has we can all move on and as you say get back to why we are here ''help eachother out''

Just an observation take it for what it is

Wrongun!

I don't like people bitching but you are completely missing the point.......being confused with a scammer is a big deal....have you every seen the fitness board Outlawmuscle??? They post peoples pictures and home addresses on the site......I don't want to deal with that, understand?

You live on the other side of the world so it is easy for you to say that I am making it a big deal.......if someone got scammed for a few grand, it may be worthwhile for them to go pay someone a visit.

So I have my reasons for "bitching"

And yes I have posted more in this thread than anyother, wouldnt you if you were confused with one of the biggest scammers in EF history???


Your observation is a bit off in my opinion. If you don't want to read my posts there are plenty of other ones for you to click on.

Not trying to be disrespectful, but don't be judging me when you don't understand the severity of the whole "fonz" issue

:king:
 
Phaded said:
holy shit kw your fucking physique is fucking amazing.. you happen to have aim/aol i'd like to chat with you about diet..


Thanks for the complimets, I appreciate it.....send me a PM i'd be glad to help, I don't have IM at work, thank god, I might not get any work done if I did have it.

shoot me a PM anytime

:king:
 
Kingwinny said:
I don't like people bitching but you are completely missing the point.......being confused with a scammer is a big deal....have you every seen the fitness board Outlawmuscle??? They post peoples pictures and home addresses on the site......I don't want to deal with that, understand?

You live on the other side of the world so it is easy for you to say that I am making it a big deal.......if someone got scammed for a few grand, it may be worthwhile for them to go pay someone a visit.

So I have my reasons for "bitching"

And yes I have posted more in this thread than anyother, wouldnt you if you were confused with one of the biggest scammers in EF history???


Your observation is a bit off in my opinion. If you don't want to read my posts there are plenty of other ones for you to click on.

Not trying to be disrespectful, but don't be judging me when you don't understand the severity of the whole "fonz" issue

:king:

Now you are bitching at me

How do you know i do not understand the who severity of the situation

My opinion is (and i can have one)

You were called the Fonz which you have proved you are not in no uncertain terms. That has been proved end of story so why the fuck are you ripping the arse out of it.

It was stated / proved wrong end of story or do you like the drama?

WTF Outlaw muscle and names and addys have to do with it i do not know. Me being in the Uk has also no relevance does it or are scammers from the Uk nicer than ones in the USA LOL

My point was drop it and move on it has been proven your are not the Fonz end of

If it helps your ego i never though you were the Fonz one person did and they got it wrong end of story why do you persist bringing it back up if you do not like the drama?
Am i missing the pont maybe but it kis a drama point

Wrongun!
 
khemix said:
I'm sure kw just wants the respect of an apology. In my opinion he owe's him that at the very least for putting a bad mark on his name.

But he is not going to get it so time to live with it and drop the drama surely?

He is certainly not the Fonz but the way he keeps going on it is if he loves the drama or an ego monster who needs the we all love you posts which is strange as he has hardly posted for 5 years and now non stop

How can you say we are all here to help in one post and then start bitching in the next?

Very strange but hey what do i know apparentkly as i am from the UK i do not understadn the severity and the need to bit (thank fuck for that LOL)

Wrongun!
 
Kingwinny said:
1)Why are you telling him to have a nice weekend? We all know you will be Elitefitness on Saturday night. ;)


2)You actually have friends? Who would want a friend like you?


3)And don't tell me you wish you could meet me in person, you don't know me.


1) I engage people in a nice manner when they are well "nice" and logical in their statments

2) ok your probably right about that one, I am pretty hard to deal with, but usually right

3) oh but I do, can't blame someone for day dreaming........
 
ps STFU KW

your not going to get shit from me except and close eye on you.........

but if your all good you have nothing to fear right?


see you on the boards, I am done with the thread
again I have my reasons everyone


so please don't be so quick to be angry with me
that being said I will bow out of THIS thread
 
this started off as a good thread now it is ruined i don't know why i keep checking but maybe i'm hoping you guys come to your sences it is over and nothing anybody can do about it now.

ps thx for the suggestions on the calf workout kw
 
trying2grow101 said:
this started off as a good thread now it is ruined i don't know why i keep checking but maybe i'm hoping you guys come to your sences it is over and nothing anybody can do about it now.

Agreed 100%

Wrongun!
 
what I would like to know Kingwinny, is you have been a memeber for 5 years, you are 23 (I think thats right?) Did you love winny when you were 18? Damn you started young?
 
kingwinny would you mind emailing me your other pics i never got to see em
 
kingwinny-

if your company blocked elite site, i know a way around it...

it's called a proxifyer.

i beleive their site is www.proxify.biz or something close. anyway, it's a hosting site where you can access elite. unless the company specifically blocks the proxy site (which i doubt they have) you are good to go g.
 
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