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one of my kids wants a car. He hasn't lived in any one place long enough to make much money working, but he has a little money in an account. What he can afford would be cheap, older, not reliable.

and when it breaks down, I'd have to help. no problem.

but I'm thinking that I might want to just get him a newer, safer, reliable car. Like a honda accord or similar.

Is that a bad idea- to buy a kid a new (I wouldn't buy him a brand new car- probably one that came off lease) car? Or is it better that he have something safe to drive to school and work?
 
stilleto said:
one of my kids wants a car. He hasn't lived in any one place long enough to make much money working, but he has a little money in an account. What he can afford would be cheap, older, not reliable.

and when it breaks down, I'd have to help. no problem.

but I'm thinking that I might want to just get him a newer, safer, reliable car. Like a honda accord or similar.

Is that a bad idea- to buy a kid a new (I wouldn't buy him a brand new car- probably one that came off lease) car? Or is it better that he have something safe to drive to school and work?
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My first car was a 1992 Mazda MX3 V6. Paid about $2600 back then and that thing got beaten like there was no tomorrow. Never had any issues. IMHO, that or a 92-95 Civic would be a very good option.
 
manny78 said:
My first car was a 1992 Mazda MX3 V6. Paid about $2600 back then and that thing got beaten like there was no tomorrow. Never had any issues. IMHO, that or a 92-95 Civic would be a very good option.
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Its 2006 now- a 95 car is already 11 years old...
I'd want to get him something thats around 3 years old so its not in the shop every other day. I had a honda as a kid and it was a great car, but older cars just have problems and i doubt he'll be driving like a little old lady going to church, although he's pretty safe- his dad taught him to drive when he was around 10.
 
stilleto said:
Its 2006 now- a 95 car is already 11 years old...
I'd want to get him something thats around 3 years old so its not in the shop every other day. I had a honda as a kid and it was a great car, but older cars just have problems and i doubt he'll be driving like a little old lady going to church, although he's pretty safe- his dad taught him to drive when he was around 10.
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You'd be surprised at how reliable they are. Only thing that may suck is the timing belt. Otherwise, look at a Toyota Echo 2003-2004. Since the model was discontinued (replaced by the Yaris) the prices went down.
 
It depends on the kid. Really does, IMO. If he has the tendancy to behave like a normal 16 y/o, u might want to make a deal with him about a car. If this is his first car, u might want to see how he will handle it. Have him get a junker at first. Tell him that if he takes good care of it and drives responsibly for a few months(maybe 2 or 3, nothing super long) then u will help him get a better car.
If u have a super-responsible, unlike the usual 16y/o, just help him get a good car and tell him about my plan above. Tell him when u read my plan, u told me to,"GO TO HELL" because u new your kid could handle not trashing his first car. It will make him feel good.
Either way, good luck!
 
holy moly you have kids!

I wanted a car so bad when I was 16.

I had to drive the family van.

when I was 18 i got my first car, a used ford f150 4x4 that costs $3000. I paid 10% of it, my parents took out a small loan for the rest and basiclaly gave it to me. I was very fortunate.
 
Just dont spoil him with a good ride or buy him something with too much power. Preferablly something he can bang up incase he backs up into a wall or something. Just make sure the car isnt too nice or he'll be gone all the time lol...
 
My first car was nice. My Dad got it for me. I biffed it right into the side of a saab going about 90mpH. I had that car for about 2 months before I trashed it and caused my parents' car ins. to sky rocket.
The 2nd car my dad bought me was an old Chevy Citation. That fuggin' sucked! I learned my lesson.
 
my first car was a 1987 Honda Accord, I got in in 1991 and that was the best damn car i ever owned. I only had one repair on it and that was the timing chain. Opt for an older car to begin with IMO. Let him buy what he can afford! Including insurance... repsonability is a key. Do a check on the car and make sure all is ok. Normal wear and tear will happen no doubt.
 
manny78 said:
You'd be surprised at how reliable they are. Only thing that may suck is the timing belt. Otherwise, look at a Toyota Echo 2003-2004. Since the model was discontinued (replaced by the Yaris) the prices went down.
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(money isn't an issue)
my time, driving him to work and school or to a repair shop is.
I am thinking about toyotas though- i want to get something dependable, but not too racey or anything.

myway- he's a good kid, but... still a kid... thanks for the suggestion though. :)
 
Frisky said:
my first car was a 1987 Honda Accord, I got in in 1991 and that was the best damn car i ever owned. I only had one repair on it and that was the timing chain. Opt for an older car to begin with IMO. Let him buy what he can afford! Including insurance... repsonability is a key. Do a check on the car and make sure all is ok. Normal wear and tear will happen no doubt.
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thats what i'm wondering- if thats the best plan. I was thinking maybe i'd match him dollar for dollar to help him get a car that we both agree on, but still teach him responsibility.
 
stilleto said:
thats what i'm wondering- if thats the best plan. I was thinking maybe i'd match him dollar for dollar to help him get a car that we both agree on, but still teach him responsibility.
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not to be nosey but what kind of budget is he working with?

I wouldn't match dollar for dollar... maybe put in a few but let him learn the value of the dollar and earning something. You can get a dependable car for low cost if all he is doing is going to school and work. Get the car checked out first though. I'd honestly go for Honda or Nissan, I've known those to be very dependable.

Check your insurance rates on what ever you decide to get first. ;)
 
Lestat said:
I paid 10% of it, my parents took out a small loan for the rest and basiclaly gave it to me. I was very fortunate.
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Spoiled brat
 
AAP said:
Hondas are excellent. So are Toyotas.
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really I agree.
I think we were meant for eachother!!!! lol
ok ok maybe you were meant for needto because he is a Honda/toyota car lover
 
stilleto said:
thats what i'm wondering- if thats the best plan. I was thinking maybe i'd match him dollar for dollar to help him get a car that we both agree on, but still teach him responsibility.
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This what I would do. Match him dollar for dollar. I know you said money isn't an issue but this is about learning responsibility as well as learning the value of a dollar. I'm sure he's a good kid but he's still 16. I was told when I was 13 that if I wanted a car when I was 16 I had better start saving b/c that was the only way I was getting one. I'm proud to say I worked 3 summers and managed to save about 2,400.00. I paid for my 1st car(78' camaro) all on my own. With that being my investment, I took care of it. I remember this one kid in school that was given a truck which wasn't that great looking and fairly old. He hated it. He constantly tried to tear it up by dogging it out and always bitching about what a piece of shit it was. Nothing wrong w/ helping him, just let him contribute some on the car as well as the insurance IMO.
 
dullboy said:
hey stilleto - you told dullboy that you were 29 years old.

where do you live, in the ozarks?
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i never said no such thing.
I don't know where the ozarks are, but yeah. thats where I live. :)
 
Frisky said:
not to be nosey but what kind of budget is he working with?

I wouldn't match dollar for dollar... maybe put in a few but let him learn the value of the dollar and earning something. You can get a dependable car for low cost if all he is doing is going to school and work. Get the car checked out first though. I'd honestly go for Honda or Nissan, I've known those to be very dependable.

Check your insurance rates on what ever you decide to get first. ;)
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He's got $2000. I'd have to pay for insurance till he got a job. I'd make him pay for it after that- only for the responsibility factor and he knows that and is cool with it.
 
stilleto said:
one of my kids wants a car. He hasn't lived in any one place long enough to make much money working, but he has a little money in an account. What he can afford would be cheap, older, not reliable.

and when it breaks down, I'd have to help. no problem.

but I'm thinking that I might want to just get him a newer, safer, reliable car. Like a honda accord or similar.

Is that a bad idea- to buy a kid a new (I wouldn't buy him a brand new car- probably one that came off lease) car? Or is it better that he have something safe to drive to school and work?
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you have mutiple kids old enough to drive? wtf dude?
 
manny78 said:
You'd be surprised at how reliable they are. Only thing that may suck is the timing belt. Otherwise, look at a Toyota Echo 2003-2004. Since the model was discontinued (replaced by the Yaris) the prices went down.
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I agreed with this choice.

The ECHO may not be much to looks at, but it's VERY reliable and economical. A Toyota with a "J" VIN ... actually assemble in Japan is a rarity these days.
 
stilleto said:
(money isn't an issue)
my time, driving him to work and school or to a repair shop is.
I am thinking about toyotas though- i want to get something dependable, but not too racey or anything.

myway- he's a good kid, but... still a kid... thanks for the suggestion though. :)
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No problem! Sounds like u have it all worked out. :)
 
You are a good person Stilleto
 
stilleto said:
i never said no such thing.
I don't know where the ozarks are, but yeah. thats where I live. :)
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dullboy was just pulling your leg.

believe me, he'd much rather pull something else of yours.
 
My first car was 10 years old when I got it in 1983. It was a 1973 Monte Carlo and it cost $1200. My Dad paid for it and put the title in his name. I had to make payments of $100 per month until I paid him $1400. (he taught me the intrest lesson). I had to pay my own insurance which was a whopping $180 per year.

It took all I had to pay for it but it taught me a good lesson and I appriciated it.

I already have a car for my 13 year old daughter...It is a fixer upper and I plan on having it in perfect shape for her when she is ready for it...
 
Hey sugar momma I want a new car too!
preferably a Honda ridgeline ok I know gas prices....I want a Honda civic hybrid.
 
IMO, he should get a car that reflects his status. A mid '90s Toyota or Honda. Generally reliable, & when they do break down, it'll give him an appreciation of other people's efforts to help, & costs associated with upkeep. I also think he should pay for the car, whether it's in total, or 50% of it, whatever. Just an agreed upon commitment he has to stick to.
 
my kid started on motorcycles at 4 yrs. he went to 3 HP carting classes too...he has crashed every car, truck he's gotten into...just totalled his moms BMW 2 weeks ago practicing his mountain roadcourse driving capabilities....

have fun.
 
PBR said:
my kid started on motorcycles at 4 yrs. he went to 3 HP carting classes too...he has crashed every car, truck he's gotten into...just totalled his moms BMW 2 weeks ago practicing his mountain roadcourse driving capabilities....

have fun.
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yikes. I hope he's ok.
i bet your ex was PISSSSSSSSSED.
 
My insurance cost more than my first car. It was an older Nissan Maxima that some old lady sold me for like $1000. My insurance was $1200.

Not sure where you live, but most dealerships have recent trade-ins parked out back. You can find decent cheap cars there too.
 
gotmilk said:
My insurance cost more than my first car. It was an older Nissan Maxima that some old lady sold me for like $1000. My insurance was $1200.

Not sure where you live, but most dealerships have recent trade-ins parked out back. You can find decent cheap cars there too.
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thats what i'd go for- i'm thinking i'll just match him dollar for dollar, then front him the money for insurance... maybe make him pay half of it. if he has to pay all, its not really worth it for him to work at all and I want him to start working. so does he, and thats an admirable goal.
 
I have a 1996 Accord with 200,000+ on it. I'm the original owner. It's not a beauty (stone chips, nicks, contusions, etc.) but, it's been well cared for and will probably be good for another 200K. Get's great mileage and has a stereo (cd/mp3/wma player, amp and Kicker speakers) that's probably worth more than the car.

Our fleet has recently increased (had to buy a Suburban to transport my ever increasing brood) so the Accord (being the oldest) must go.

PM me. :)
 
digimon7068 said:
I have a 1996 Accord with 200,000+ on it. I'm the original owner. It's not a beauty (stone chips, nicks, contusions, etc.) but, it's been well cared for and will probably be good for another 200K. Get's great mileage and has a stereo (cd/mp3/wma player, amp and Kicker speakers) that's probably worth more than the car.

Our fleet has recently increased (had to buy a Suburban to transport my ever increasing brood) so the Accord (being the oldest) must go.

PM me. :)
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i had a honda accord too- that car was great. tons of miles on it and it always ran-plus it was great in the snow.
I'd be interested if it had less miles... i know they can go forever, but i still want him to start with something with less miles. maybe a 3 to 5 year old car.
thanks though!
 
stilleto said:
i had a honda accord too- that car was great. tons of miles on it and it always ran-plus it was great in the snow.
I'd be interested if it had less miles... i know they can go forever, but i still want him to start with something with less miles. maybe a 3 to 5 year old car.
thanks though!
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Find an Accord, they're just wonderful cars. I know what you mean about the snow. . .we get quite a bit here in NC PA and the damn thing just goes like a snowmobile. . .just point and shoot. . .love it!!
 
I wouldn't get him anything new or even remotely new. I would put him in an older pontiac grand am or grand prix.

1st car was a 1989 Mercury Cougar
2nd car was a 1990 Cadillac Seville
3rd car was a 1994 Cadillac Seville SLS
4th car is a 1996 Cadillac STS
 
stilleto said:
one of my kids wants a car. He hasn't lived in any one place long enough to make much money working, but he has a little money in an account. What he can afford would be cheap, older, not reliable.

and when it breaks down, I'd have to help. no problem.

but I'm thinking that I might want to just get him a newer, safer, reliable car. Like a honda accord or similar.

Is that a bad idea- to buy a kid a new (I wouldn't buy him a brand new car- probably one that came off lease) car? Or is it better that he have something safe to drive to school and work?
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how much does he have? and how much are u willing to spend?

do something like matching what he has if its a significant amount, and then making him pay for gas money so he isnt dumb with it...as a kid with a new car thats the advice id give...
 
stilleto said:
(money isn't an issue)
my time, driving him to work and school or to a repair shop is.
I am thinking about toyotas though- i want to get something dependable, but not too racey or anything.

myway- he's a good kid, but... still a kid... thanks for the suggestion though. :)
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if money isnt an issue get him the new civic...thats what i got, and its fucking awsome! i love it, and because i love it i try and take awsome care of it
 
SublimeZM said:
how much does he have? and how much are u willing to spend?

do something like matching what he has if its a significant amount, and then making him pay for gas money so he isnt dumb with it...as a kid with a new car thats the advice id give...
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thanks sub- good advice.
thats what i'm probably going to do. he has around $2000 (he's got a trust fund with some more, but its for college)- i would match the amount. that should get him something reliable I think, but not let him feel spoiled.
 
id say hold off until he has a surplus unless you plan to help,insurance,repairs and fuel all add up fast and if he isnt ready for it then he will end up having it spend more time in the drive then actually on the road.

if ya do get him one i reccomend a beater,I drove a 92 acclaim for my first ride,I beat up on it so bad as does every kid,but it held up well and wasnt an expensive car,and only had 100hp so i couldnt get overly stupid
 
theoak01 said:
id say hold off until he has a surplus unless you plan to help,insurance,repairs and fuel all add up fast and if he isnt ready for it then he will end up having it spend more time in the drive then actually on the road.

if ya do get him one i reccomend a beater,I drove a 92 acclaim for my first ride,I beat up on it so bad as does every kid,but it held up well and wasnt an expensive car,and only had 100hp so i couldnt get overly stupid
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there is no job within walking distance around here- he can't make money.
He was a child actor/model and made quite a lot of money- but its gone now (not because of him- or me).
 
well dat a shame,but I know that feeling all to well,hence im sitting in fucking newfoundland for work at the moment.

hope it works out for him though darlin
 
stilleto said:
one of my kids wants a car. He hasn't lived in any one place long enough to make much money working, but he has a little money in an account. What he can afford would be cheap, older, not reliable.

and when it breaks down, I'd have to help. no problem.

but I'm thinking that I might want to just get him a newer, safer, reliable car. Like a honda accord or similar.

Is that a bad idea- to buy a kid a new (I wouldn't buy him a brand new car- probably one that came off lease) car? Or is it better that he have something safe to drive to school and work?
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Get him an older, fox body Mustang.

Parts are plentiful and inexpensive. He will love getting under the hood.

Save the leased new car for college.

This is what I did with my son and it worked perectly. Sure, I had to help him, but I had fun. He got three years of lessons out of that car, sold it and then I put him in a new F 150 4 x 4for $250 a month when he started college.
 
Looking back on it having a POS for my first car was good for me. I learned a lot about responsibility and the stories i have to look back on are much more memorable than if i had a /real/ car.
shit my nissan sentra the doors wouldnt even open when it was below freezing the night before. then someone stole it, and i found it walking home the next day, only to have it get stolen again a week later, and i still found it, but it was all busted up inside. made driving a challange.

ahh good times
 
I got my first car when I was able to afford it myself, then went and bought a 1998 Civic (it was new back then). I loved that car, though the engine was a piece of shit with no power, it was 1.6, 4 cyl with what felt like 50hp... surprisingly, because of my work back then, I barely drove it, and sold it, 3 years later with 7500 miles
 
stilleto said:
Its 2006 now- a 95 car is already 11 years old...
I'd want to get him something thats around 3 years old so its not in the shop every other day. I had a honda as a kid and it was a great car, but older cars just have problems and i doubt he'll be driving like a little old lady going to church, although he's pretty safe- his dad taught him to drive when he was around 10.
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Toyota Camary
 
Admittedly my parents bought the first car I was allowed to drive. It was a 1980 (I believe that was the year) Chevy Impala - the same make and model of most NYC taxi cabs. Man that thing was a HYUGE BOAT. I had to sit on a phone book AND sofa cushion just to see over the steering wheel.

I didn't pay for the car, HOWEVER, I did have to pay for insurance AND I had to share it with my older brother who always took it and left the tank on empty for me.... bastard.

The first car I ever bought myself was an old Toyota Tercel with 114K miles on it and the original clutch. I bought it for 500 USD in 1990 from my then soon-to-be sisterinlaw. I drove it for a few years and gave it to my sister who drove it into the ground.

I am nearly 39 and for the first time in my life I am driving a car that I TRULY LOVE - my new Honda Pilot.

I have had a few cars both foreign and domestic and from the limited experience I have had - I am HYUGE fan of foreign - HATE FORD.

My children will have to buy their own cars and have to pay for their own college educations. Even if my financial situation were to change to the point where I COULD pay for all that outright - I still would not.

The kid has to learn responsibility.

I understand the question of YOUR TIME because of his working. So make him a personal loan then. Whatever car he ends up with he will be using it to get to and from work.... right?

LOAN him the money and make sure he pays you back monthly.
 
yo... stilleto.. I want this car that will run me around 40K, would you go on half with me? I will love you for life :heart:
 
stilleto said:
:)
i thought you'd love me for life nomatter what? ;)
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oh ... I will...

but that 20k would make me love you even more. :qt: :verygood: ;) :heart:
 
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