Ketobloat drama...

[RobertoK]

First of all, thank you for reading the following sob stoy. Here it goes, I started a keto diet (almost 0 carbs) 3 weeks ago. The first week I lost weight super fast and got really vascular in a matter of 2 days into the diet. 5 days into it (on the weekend) I broke the diet and binged on chocolate (let's call it a refeed of some sort). Week 2, the bloat caused by the binge disappears by day 3 and on Saturday Im ripped. I look and felt great but following the footsteps of the cat that curiousity killed, I decided to try ALA and "refeed" that night. I had about 8 hours of "refeeding" with chocolate, a personal pizza and chips and fried fish. I popped in about 3 grams of ALA within these 8 hours in the hope of not looking bloated the next day. Well that was a huge mistake! The next day I looked like a blimp. I was incredibly bloated like Id been binging for a week. I was so surprised I posted a thread here and Mr.X calmed me down by pointing out that I may have had an allergic response to so much ALA. I believe Mr.X since the bloat was inconsistant with other after-binge bloats Ive experienced in the past. Well, the next day after the refeed I started the ketodiet again. Now a week has passed since my tragic refeed and Im still holding a bit of bloat. It has gone down a lot but I dont see my weight going down like the previous weeks on the ketodiet. I wonder if the ALA messed something up in me and now I cant lose weight via the keto-way anymore. I mean by day 3 in I have lost noticeable weight and look extra vascular. Right now Im barely vascular and still feel puffy. Any ideas, advice you guys may want to give me will be superappreciated. By the way thanks for reading all this whining

 

[Mr.X]

First of all, thank you for reading the following sob stoy. Here it goes, I started a keto diet (almost 0 carbs) 3 weeks ago. The first week I lost weight super fast and got really vascular in a matter of 2 days into the diet. 5 days into it (on the weekend) I broke the diet and binged on chocolate (let's call it a refeed of some sort). Week 2, the bloat caused by the binge disappears by day 3 and on Saturday Im ripped. I look and felt great but following the footsteps of the cat that curiousity killed, I decided to try ALA and "refeed" that night. I had about 8 hours of "refeeding" with chocolate, a personal pizza and chips and fried fish. I popped in about 3 grams of ALA within these 8 hours in the hope of not looking bloated the next day. Well that was a huge mistake! The next day I looked like a blimp. I was incredibly bloated like Id been binging for a week. I was so surprised I posted a thread here and Mr.X calmed me down by pointing out that I may have had an allergic response to so much ALA. I believe Mr.X since the bloat was inconsistant with other after-binge bloats Ive experienced in the past. Well, the next day after the refeed I started the ketodiet again. Now a week has passed since my tragic refeed and Im still holding a bit of bloat. It has gone down a lot but I dont see my weight going down like the previous weeks on the ketodiet. I wonder if the ALA messed something up in me and now I cant lose weight via the keto-way anymore. I mean by day 3 in I have lost noticeable weight and look extra vascular. Right now Im barely vascular and still feel puffy. Any ideas, advice you guys may want to give me will be superappreciated. By the way thanks for reading all this whining

Well, for one, I'm glad I could be of help to you my friend. Your bloat might still be a result of an underlying problem w/ the allergy. Again, I'll repeat the recommendation of getting checked by a doc, at least if I'm wrong you'll know the problem is Overdosing of ALA.

Your claim is that you are not losing as much weight now as in the first week of Ketosis. That is due to a little thing called Ketosis, IMO your binge is probably still keeping you out of ketosis or you are still holding the water weight. It's not fat, I'm sure of that. The first week of your CKD you usually lose the most weight (not fat, WEIGHT) because of the initial WATER loss due to the diuretic effect of Ketones.

I would recommend waiting until next week and really watching your carb-ups. Control is what makes a man.

Mr.X
www.mesomorph.net

 

[RobertoK]

Mr.X thank you for the prompt response. I agree with your idea that its not fat what Im holding now but water since I feel as if Id taken a loading phase of creatine. I wonder how long will I be bloated for. Do you think the ALA is still in my system? If so, when do you think it will have been "flushed out"? Can I take anything to relieve the bloat? Thank you for your help

 

[Mr.X]

Mr.X thank you for the prompt response. I agree with your idea that its not fat what Im holding now but water since I feel as if Id taken a loading phase of creatine. I wonder how long will I be bloated for. Do you think the ALA is still in my system? If so, when do you think it will have been "flushed out"? Can I take anything to relieve the bloat? Thank you for your help

I do not know when it will be flushed out because it might be allegic feedback. I think just milk diuretic things: Glycerol/Vit C/potassium/black coffee

Mr.X

 

[mojokid]

and keep the fat LOW on refeed days! Fried foods, pizza and ( if it was full fat ) chocolate on a refeed day? ugh .. I stick to 20g's or below of fat during refeed. I thought that was a cardinal rule! Also ALA isn't magic, it's helps with glucose disposal into your muscles, but it doesn't magically create more cell receptors once they've been filled. Muscle Glycogen filled, Liver Glycogen filled, fat begins to fill, and the fat will not help at all!

 

[rez]

you took 8 ala during your 'refeed"...shouldnt you be taking it before your meal anyway?