Just Posting A Thought

[Tom Treutlein]

I was thinking of a type of routine, aimed for someone looking to be more or less well-rounded. It would involve some hypertrophy, some strength, and some endurance. The exercises would be ones of that person's choosing, probably for specific goals (i.e., strength for certain bodyparts, size for others). It's nothing spectacular. Hell, maybe it's even a stupid idea, but it worked out well in theory (a.k.a. in my head) so I figured I'd give it a run at some point.

It would entail basic set or rep schemes (something generic such as 3x8 or 4x6 - maybe higher reps for arms and calves, since those respond better to a higher rep range) and 30 second rest periods. The short breaks wouldn't give more progress (or as much) in way of size and/or strength, but that would cover endurance (muscular). Two/three times a week at the least, cardio would be done. Nothing extreme. Maybe a day of sprints and two days of light cycling or brisk walking, just to keep the heart in shape.

The rep ranges suggested would be optimal for size, and not too high up to allow slow and steady increases for strength gains. Obviously you wouldn't become a bodybuilder, powerlifter, or a marathon runner on something like this, but it would allow you to cover all the bases briefly enough, while giving yourself some rest time (if you want it). I myself would probably be doing something every day of the week, but that's my decision (and possibly loss).

 

[guldukat]

I was thinking of a type of routine, aimed for someone looking to be more or less well-rounded. It would involve some hypertrophy, some strength, and some endurance. The exercises would be ones of that person's choosing, probably for specific goals (i.e., strength for certain bodyparts, size for others). It's nothing spectacular. Hell, maybe it's even a stupid idea, but it worked out well in theory (a.k.a. in my head) so I figured I'd give it a run at some point.

Curious...when I think of Tom T., "stupid ideas" don't come to mind

It would entail basic set or rep schemes (something generic such as 3x8 or 4x6 - maybe higher reps for arms and calves, since those respond better to a higher rep range) and 30 second rest periods. The short breaks wouldn't give more progress (or as much) in way of size and/or strength, but that would cover endurance (muscular). Two/three times a week at the least, cardio would be done. Nothing extreme. Maybe a day of sprints and two days of light cycling or brisk walking, just to keep the heart in shape.

Honestly, that seems like what I call JOTIMON: jack of all trades is master of none.

This is especially important in training, where we must observe the SAID principle. Training a little for size, for strength and endurance simultaneously is a compromise of what's best for each.

I don't have to tell you that compromising sucks.

The rep ranges suggested would be optimal for size, and not too high up to allow slow and steady increases for strength gains. Obviously you wouldn't become a bodybuilder, powerlifter, or a marathon runner on something like this, but it would allow you to cover all the bases briefly enough, while giving yourself some rest time (if you want it). I myself would probably be doing something every day of the week, but that's my decision (and possibly loss).

Seems okay, but I think it'd be better to do a strength routine, perhaps with what some circles call "hypertrophy work" thrown in for good measure. A Bill Starr routine or 5x5 fits the bill there nicely. So would DCing, for that matter.

On top of weights, some HIIT cardio would take care of endurance.

All told, training these things separately would yield better results in each, and it's likely it wouldn't involve that much more time. Since you're willing to do [at least] a little something every day, you could fit it all in comfortably.

 

[Sub-Zero]

i do bodybuilding for my right side and strength/powerlifting for my left, and it seems to be working well.


my goal is to be like those crabs with one huge pincher and one small one, so i can woo the ladies when i flex my right side, but fight off the haters with my left side

 

[Tom Treutlein]

Guldu, any input on how I could fit it all in nicely, like you're suggesting? I'd like to me that JATIMON or whatever you said.

Aww, stupid ideas don't come to mind? Thanks bro, haha.

 

[Tom Treutlein]

Anyone else?

 

[Tom Treutlein]

Criticism? Guldu's response?

 

[b fold the truth]

My Strongman routine has worked pretty well for most people that I train. They gain strength, size, AND are in VERY good conditioning.

B True

 

[Tom Treutlein]

Oh? What exactly would your strongman routine be, B?

 

[majutsu]

i do bodybuilding for my right side and strength/powerlifting for my left, and it seems to be working well.


my goal is to be like those crabs with one huge pincher and one small one, so i can woo the ladies when i flex my right side, but fight off the haters with my left side

This cracks me up! Cool!

 

[du Chaneaux17]

i do bodybuilding for my right side and strength/powerlifting for my left, and it seems to be working well.


my goal is to be like those crabs with one huge pincher and one small one, so i can woo the ladies when i flex my right side, but fight off the haters with my left side

 

[coolcolj]

If you do a type of Pendulum conjugate periodisation you can have all that and eat your cake.

kinda like what I'm doing now
Read those CT Pendulum periodisation articles for the info

 

[b fold the truth]

Oh? What exactly would your strongman routine be, B?

Sunday:
GM or Deadlift Variation
Squat
4-8 Events

Monday:
OHP
Flat Bench
Tricep exercise
Rotator Exercise
Lat exercixe (1 set)
Bicep exercise (1 set)
Abs
Sled walking

Wednesday: DE Lower
Box Squats with bands
Deadlifts
Ham Curl Variation
Pull Throughs
Reverse Hypers
Calves
Abs
Grip

Thursday:
Chins
Rows
Face Pulls
Dbell Curls
Machine Preacher Curls
Cl Grip Bench
Tate Presses
Rotator Cuff exercise
Abs
Treadmill
Bicycle (HIGH intensity)

Hard to go into much detail. After I do my main exercise (Deadlifts, Good mornings, Box Squats, Close Grip bench) everything else is just for weakness training as well as volume work. The ONLY thing that is done with MAXIMUM intensity is my first exercise.

B True

 

[casualbb]

I'd say do a hypertrophy program until you're at your desired size.

Then do WSB with some designated higher-rep, lower rest-period days. It will be more than enough to maintain size, and you can work on both maximal strength and strength-endurance.

 

[Dorian'sDisciple]

I'd say do a hypertrophy program until you're at your desired size.

Then do WSB with some designated higher-rep, lower rest-period days. It will be more than enough to maintain size, and you can work on both maximal strength and strength-endurance.

good advice casual (i always knew you woyld make a good mod)

 

[SFLifter]

i do bodybuilding for my right side and strength/powerlifting for my left, and it seems to be working well.


my goal is to be like those crabs with one huge pincher and one small one, so i can woo the ladies when i flex my right side, but fight off the haters with my left side

HAHA! That's pretty stoney, bro.