Just out of curiosity what are everyones thoughts on God and a higher power here.

[Nelson Montana]

I'll pray for you

No need. Pray for yourself if you like.

P.S. Did they teach facetiousness 101 along with Catachism? lol

 

[madmad_andrew]

You don't have to look too far to find God's glory. Just look at a sunset, look at the sky and the clouds, at crashing waves and the ripples that are created, that in one moment are formed as a work of art and never again will be formed exactly the same again. Better yet, look at our bodies, we cut ourselved and our bodies heal themselves alone, we break down our muscles and they regenerate on their own , our powerful minds, the intellect we are given or are able to gain and attain.

Do you really believe that all of these wonderful things ... Just happened out of nowhere? You are a miracle in itself.

You're cherry picking. What about all the horrible things like cancer and starvation, rape etc?

 

[cipherking]

I have to agree with nelson on this one. I as a lot of you was brought up in a religous family. I could never understand why since my family is 75% african american and 25% native american. Why believe in something the people who in salved and tortured you do?.... anyway, the biggest reason i find it hard to believe is i've seen some horrible things that happens on this planet because of my job. A lot of those people use religon as a crutch to do what they do. not to mention natural disasters and illnesses. You don't need a higher power to make you a nice and peaceful person. Just go about your life loving everyone and smiling at people. A good smile can go along way to someone.

 

[luigimaster24]

You're cherry picking. What about all the horrible things like cancer and starvation, rape etc?

14What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15For he says to Moses,

“I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.
It does not, therefore, depend on man’s desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. For the Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.”
Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.

One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who resists his will?” But who are you, O man, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this? Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for common use?

Romans:9 14-21

In other words, yes, horrible things do happen to good people and innocent kids, but who are we the created to question the Creator and His will? Sometimes bad things happen and we are faced with a choice of giving the circumstance meaning. It's not what happens to us but the meaning we give it that matters. Some people go through horrible things and choose to be depressed and commit suicide, a other person might go through the same or similar experience and choose to be empowered and use that situation to help and comfort other people that might go through it in the future. At that point God would be using something horrible that happened in someones life and using it for the good and for His honor and Glory.

Just respectuflly responding to your reply with my personal belief and opinion. To each their own.

 

[Nelson Montana]

14What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15For he says to Moses,

“I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.
It does not, therefore, depend on man’s desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. For the Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.”
Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.

One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who resists his will?” But who are you, O man, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this? Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for common use?

In other words, yes, horrible things do happen to good people and innocent kids, but who are we the created to question the Creator and His will? Sometimes bad things happen and we are faced with a choice of giving the circumstance meaning. It's not what happens to us but the meaning we give it that matters. Some people go through horrible things and choose to be depressed and commit suicide, a other person might go through the same or similar experience and choose to be empowered and use that situation to help and comfort other people that might go through it in the future. At that point God would be using something horrible that happened in someones life and using it for the good and for His honor and Glory.


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God gave me a MIND and I question it. AGain, I find it offensive when people say that if someone suffers they deserve it because it's what god wants. Yet, he lets people get away with murder because he loves them. THAT shit pisses me off.

When god flooded the earth he killed children because they're parents didn't believe in him. Sounds a bit spiteful, insecure and sociopathic. Not all all worthy of someone to worship. But to each his own.

 

[kfriesen]

I believe in something, some higher power, but not the "god" that is taught in any church or religious commune, or spoke about in any religious text

 

[Big Rick Rock]

The proof that there is a "God" or a sort of "Creator" is evident everywhere we look. God created physics, time, space, the universe, energy, DNA, life, evolution, life cycles and every atom that composes all of it, along with every particle and dimension. He created so much wonder that we are just now beginning to truly understand the very atoms that we have been made out of our whole lives and even alternate dimensions are mathematically possible... It may take us another 300 years and 10 generations to unravel the mathematics that will explain the wonders in our own universe. That is as much as I know about God - I don't subscribe or believe God will be found in any book or story written by men, those stories have only served to explain "existence" to the masses, back when humanity was very young we didn't yet make Particle Accelerators and other cool gadgets that would help us truly discover God in every particle of our being.

That all being said, my faith and part of feeling God in my heart has more to do with the feeling and results I get from helping others. My own religiousness and faith is completely centered around my striving to be a good Brother, one who truly cares about others and tries to create opportunities for all I meet. My Brother's keeper!
It has worked out for me my entire life and continues to open doors every day, not just logical cause-and-effect stuff, but really "Hand of God" type of results where I can see direct results and "rewards" from the good deeds I put out into the world. Foes become vanquished before the first sword is raised, the seas part in front of me and dry land marks my path - even at my worse times of doubt and despair where others may question their faith and feel abandoned, I find I always learn something new from the experience and then again God reaches down and pulls me out of there once my lesson is engraved in me for life. What I thought to have been the worst times of my life, have actually taught me all of the important things I needed to know to make my coming days and years better.

I just feel God in my heart and Thank him every single day for making me who I am. I look, talk and walk just the way God intended me to, and I love being who I am every day and I'm Thnakful to God he built me to be the man who's words carry weight among his peers. My life is just perfect and has always been just right, for a long time I doubted God and didn't quite follow his plan for me, but years heave taught me to just wake up every day ready to work harder for a better tomorrow, and God will just take care of every obstacle and danger along the road, and if despair does cross my way, that I'm being taught a good lesson and being Forged to be stronger like steel needs to be in the high heat to get stronger.

I don't really have a religion and I don't really practice any ritualized communications with God, I don't really follow any of the religious calendars. I do get on my knees and pray when I need to give thanks for my blessings, but I found my best way to praise God is to continue to be my Brother's keeper and continue to be a key person in the lives of all those that know me. In my professional as in my personal life I strive to be the best and uplift others, have respect for others empathy for them and their plights, their well being and their family's. Everything will just work out fine in my life as long and I'm good others and work hard every single day.

Yes there is an afterlife, and we do look back at momentary pain and suffering as a short experience that was just a blink in eternity. For those who think God doesn't exist because some people suffer pain and others die young, you must think of that pain as just a moment in time that becomes irrelevant when compared to eternity. If a person dies a painful death, the pain will not carry on in eternity, it stays here in this world and becomes a tiny memory of a really short part of the life of our Eternal Soul... In the end, judgement day will be ourselves looking back at our lives and having to justify how we lived it and what we did with our time. Will we complain about the chances we didn't have, or will we brag to eternity of the great things we accomplished with a humble start? - Will we look back an hold a grudge against the people who came along and hurt us, or will we shine bright in the memory of all those we went out of our way to help? - The real judgment day starts today, cause you won't get today back and that may be your burden to carry for eternity, wasting this life on indulgence and greed, when you could have spent it in devotion and charity.



-BRR

 

[Nelson Montana]

The proof that there is a "God" or a sort of "Creator" is evident everywhere we look. God created physics, time, space, the universe, energy, DNA, life, evolution, life cycles and every atom that composes all of it, along with every particle and dimension. He created so much wonder that we are just now beginning to truly understand the very atoms that we have been made out of our whole lives and even alternate dimensions are mathematically possible... It may take us another 300 years and 10 generations to unravel the mathematics that will explain the wonders in our own universe. That is as much as I know about God - I don't subscribe or believe God will be found in any book or story written by men, those stories have only served to explain "existence" to the masses, back when humanity was very young we didn't yet make Particle Accelerators and other cool gadgets that would help us truly discover God in every particle of our being.

That all being said, my faith and part of feeling God in my heart has more to do with the feeling and results I get from helping others. My own religiousness and faith is completely centered around my striving to be a good Brother, one who truly cares about others and tries to create opportunities for all I meet. My Brother's keeper!
It has worked out for me my entire life and continues to open doors every day, not just logical cause-and-effect stuff, but really "Hand of God" type of results where I can see direct results and "rewards" from the good deeds I put out into the world. Foes become vanquished before the first sword is raised, the seas part in front of me and dry land marks my path - even at my worse times of doubt and despair where others may question their faith and feel abandoned, I find I always learn something new from the experience and then again God reaches down and pulls me out of there once my lesson is engraved in me for life. What I thought to have been the worst times of my life, have actually taught me all of the important things I needed to know to make my coming days and years better.

I just feel God in my heart and Thank him every single day for making me who I am. I look, talk and walk just the way God intended me to, and I love being who I am every day and I'm Thnakful to God he built me to be the man who's words carry weight among his peers. My life is just perfect and has always been just right, for a long time I doubted God and didn't quite follow his plan for me, but years heave taught me to just wake up every day ready to work harder for a better tomorrow, and God will just take care of every obstacle and danger along the road, and if despair does cross my way, that I'm being taught a good lesson and being Forged to be stronger like steel needs to be in the high heat to get stronger.

I don't really have a religion and I don't really practice any ritualized communications with God, I don't really follow any of the religious calendars. I do get on my knees and pray when I need to give thanks for my blessings, but I found my best way to praise God is to continue to be my Brother's keeper and continue to be a key person in the lives of all those that know me. In my professional as in my personal life I strive to be the best and uplift others, have respect for others empathy for them and their plights, their well being and their family's. Everything will just work out fine in my life as long and I'm good others and work hard every single day.

Yes there is an afterlife, and we do look back at momentary pain and suffering as a short experience that was just a blink in eternity. For those who think God doesn't exist because some people suffer pain and others die young, you must think of that pain as just a moment in time that becomes irrelevant when compared to eternity. If a person dies a painful death, the pain will not carry on in eternity, it stays here in this world and becomes a tiny memory of a really short part of the life of our Eternal Soul... In the end, judgement day will be ourselves looking back at our lives and having to justify how we lived it and what we did with our time. Will we complain about the chances we didn't have, or will we brag to eternity of the great things we accomplished with a humble start? - Will we look back an hold a grudge against the people who came along and hurt us, or will we shine bright in the memory of all those we went out of our way to help? - The real judgment day starts today, cause you won't get today back and that may be your burden to carry for eternity, wasting this life on indulgence and greed, when you could have spent it in devotion and charity.



-BRR

I'm with that.

 

[cindylou]

When god flooded the earth he killed children because they're parents didn't believe in him. Sounds a bit spiteful, insecure and sociopathic.

lol *cringe*

 

[musclei]

Man of Science here.

Grew up Catholic but as a teenager stopped believing in that or any other organized religion. Nowadays I would describe myself as "spiritual" and I try to find a meaning in what I do but definitely do not believe in God as a person.