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c24k

c24k

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I'm 20 y.o. i've been weight lifting my whole life, literally.

Here i am at 18 a few months after i got serious into bodybuilding: http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/PyrrhusofEpirus/n593497223_3741.jpg
I'm 165

Now what i don't have is a pic of when i was 19 Summer of 2008 is when i was at my best before my life crashed from a horrible ex finacee... the only pics of me are on her camera.. anyways My stats then were; Height: 6'0 Weight: 180 lbs Deadlift: 400 lbs Bench Press: 200 lbs Curl (Straight Bar): 165 lbs, 75 lbs single arm i never maxed out on straight bar. Squat: 188 (terrible i know) Clean and Press: 145 lbs

And here i am today at 20 years old i've started bodybuilding again nearly a year later after i quit. http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/PyrrhusofEpirus/meeee.jpg
I only weigh a pathetic 160 lbs. I can't lift as much as i used to, but i'll jump right back to those previous ones in no time.
 
ExtraMile said:
You can curl nearly as much as u squat wtf!!!!!
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yea i kno, i'm how do you say majorly obsessed with my arms lol i HATE squats with a passion most ppl love them and hate deads but my fav exercises are Deadlifts and Curls with Benchpress following and then squats. I get a lot of bad rap for my low squat weight but thats cuz i only started squatting when i was 18 but i had already been lifting for years before hope that explains it lol
 
That was me when I was your age!!! Best weight was 182lbs @ 6' 1". Here is what I learn having the high metabolism, eat all you can and I know you do. The way I finally gained was to eat a fat rice(white) plate with chicken and veggies with 2 large glasses of whole milk right before bed, if you can its not for everyone. I started to gain weight on this program and got to 200lbs in a relativly short time. Just sharing my experience I hope it helps. Good luck bro!!!​
 
Sasqatch said:
That was me when I was your age!!! Best weight was 182lbs @ 6' 1". Here is what I learn having the high metabolism, eat all you can and I know you do. The way I finally gained was to eat a fat rice(white) plate with chicken and veggies with 2 large glasses of whole milk right before bed, if you can its not for everyone. I started to gain weight on this program and got to 200lbs in a relativly short time. Just sharing my experience I hope it helps. Good luck bro!!!​
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hell yea! i should try that, is minute rice ok for that?
 
Sorry bro, what I meant was looks like its time to work on your squat, if you do a routine which involves squats, military, deads, flat bench and rows then your biceps will blow up more so than if you just do curls. If you still have the energy add in a few assistance exercises over the week like romanian deadlift or glute/ham raise, incline dumbell bench, dips, underhand chinups <<< these blow your biceps up like balloons!, wide grip chins or close grip bench but only 1 or two after a workout. Id say keep the squats, deads, bench quite low reps like 5 or 6, then do rows and military a little lighter like 7 or 8 and feel the shoulders or back really moving the weight, dont just throw it up. Then with your assistance do 8-12 reps. Monday could look like this:

Squats 3 sets 5 reps
Flat Bench press 3 sets 5 reps
Barbell Rows 3 sets 6-8 reps
Close Grip Flat Bench 2 sets 8 reps
Underhand Chinups 2 sets 8 reps
 
ExtraMile said:
Sorry bro, what I meant was looks like its time to work on your squat, if you do a routine which involves squats, military, deads, flat bench and rows then your biceps will blow up more so than if you just do curls. If you still have the energy add in a few assistance exercises over the week like romanian deadlift or glute/ham raise, incline dumbell bench, dips, underhand chinups <<< these blow your biceps up like balloons!, wide grip chins or close grip bench but only 1 or two after a workout. Id say keep the squats, deads, bench quite low reps like 5 or 6, then do rows and military a little lighter like 7 or 8 and feel the shoulders or back really moving the weight, dont just throw it up. Then with your assistance do 8-12 reps. Monday could look like this:

Squats 3 sets 5 reps
Flat Bench press 3 sets 5 reps
Barbell Rows 3 sets 6-8 reps
Close Grip Flat Bench 2 sets 8 reps
Underhand Chinups 2 sets 8 reps
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thanks i will def try that ASAP. Its been forever since i've done squats so i'm going to be starting pathetically low
 
Start with what you can and go from there.

You NEED to do squats if you want some serious mass. And it doesn't need to be heavy. I personally feel higher rep squats with medium weight are way better than super heavy low rep squats for building mass. And they are safer. All the best legs I have ever seen were built with high reps.

All the low rep super heavy lifting is for powerlifters. If you are not a powerlifter, I don't advise lifting like one for certain excercises. Squats being one of them. I'd shoot for 15 rep set, + or - a couple reps. And switching it up every 2 months, dropping down to 10 rep range sets. I don't ever see the need of doing 5 rep sets with heavy weights on a squat if what you care about it aesthetics (looking good). If you are intense when doing your sets and pushing it to the max, you are gonna make big gains.


And having a set amount of sets and reps is BS if you ask me. It's good to have a plan and to meter your progress, but placing a set number on it isn't the way to go IMO. Have a rep range, an work within that range, adjusting the weight accordingly. If you feel you can bust out an extra set or two, go for it.

And you want to focus on one muscle group per session, not 3. Chest one day, back another, legs another. Don't combine them in the same day. Throw in arms at the end of your workouts. Tris on chest day, bi's on back day. They are not a priority, especially at 160lbs. They get worked plenty enough doing your compound movements. Throwing them in at the end is all that is necessary.

And I pray you stop caring about how much you can curl.
 
dabuffguy said:
Start with what you can and go from there.

You NEED to do squats if you want some serious mass. And it doesn't need to be heavy. I personally feel higher rep squats with medium weight are way better than super heavy low rep squats for building mass. And they are safer. All the best legs I have ever seen were built with high reps.

All the low rep super heavy lifting is for powerlifters. If you are not a powerlifter, I don't advise lifting like one for certain excercises. Squats being one of them. I'd shoot for 15 rep set, + or - a couple reps. And switching it up every 2 months, dropping down to 10 rep range sets. I don't ever see the need of doing 5 rep sets with heavy weights on a squat if what you care about it aesthetics (looking good). If you are intense when doing your sets and pushing it to the max, you are gonna make big gains.


And having a set amount of sets and reps is BS if you ask me. It's good to have a plan and to meter your progress, but placing a set number on it isn't the way to go IMO. Have a rep range, an work within that range, adjusting the weight accordingly. If you feel you can bust out an extra set or two, go for it.

And you want to focus on one muscle group per session, not 3. Chest one day, back another, legs another. Don't combine them in the same day. Throw in arms at the end of your workouts. Tris on chest day, bi's on back day. They are not a priority, especially at 160lbs. They get worked plenty enough doing your compound movements. Throwing them in at the end is all that is necessary.

And I pray you stop caring about how much you can curl.
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Actually i was a powerlifter LOL i was the 3rd strongest at the tryouts i smoked other powerlifters and football players but my squat killed me. I will set up a mass building routine because i'm going for bulk i want to reach at least 215 by October. Yea i've been really really bad about training multiple muscle groups per session. What you say makes more sense, tho i have heard about putting arms at the end just never incorporated it till now. Oh and about the arm curling thing i was doing that for a powerlifting contest but life problems happened and i never made it to that. Compared to all the people who had won around here in my area i had them all beat on curling by about 20+ pounds. I don't focus on arms as much anymore. Thanks for the advice :biggrin:
 
c24k said:
Actually i was a powerlifter LOL i was the 3rd strongest at the tryouts i smoked other powerlifters and football players but my squat killed me. I will set up a mass building routine because i'm going for bulk i want to reach at least 215 by October. Yea i've been really really bad about training multiple muscle groups per session. What you say makes more sense, tho i have heard about putting arms at the end just never incorporated it till now. Oh and about the arm curling thing i was doing that for a powerlifting contest but life problems happened and i never made it to that. Compared to all the people who had won around here in my area i had them all beat on curling by about 20+ pounds. I don't focus on arms as much anymore. Thanks for the advice :biggrin:
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Well, your first post mentioned bodybuildinga couple times, not PL so I went with that.

If you ARE powerlifting, then yes 5X5 is fantastic for PL specific goals as iggy suggested.
 
dabuffguy said:
Well, your first post mentioned bodybuildinga couple times, not PL so I went with that.

If you ARE powerlifting, then yes 5X5 is fantastic for PL specific goals as iggy suggested.
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Honestly i prefer bodybuilding over powerlifting i want that ripped physique but right now i'm only focusing on bulking up and not how ripped i am so i'll go with that PL 5x5
 
400 deads with straps and a belt?

belt takes a lot of weight off. i can only deadlift 315 without a belt or straps.
got a weak back......
but i can squat much more.
 
c24k said:
Honestly i prefer bodybuilding over powerlifting i want that ripped physique but right now i'm only focusing on bulking up and not how ripped i am so i'll go with that PL 5x5
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If you're bulking up, but are going for the bodybuilder look over time, you can still just do body building workouts. How big you get depends on how much you eat for the most part. And for legs, I still stand by saying higher rep squats are way better for mass (bulk) than 5X5.
 
dabuffguy said:
If you're bulking up, but are going for the bodybuilder look over time, you can still just do body building workouts. How big you get depends on how much you eat for the most part. And for legs, I still stand by saying higher rep squats are way better for mass (bulk) than 5X5.
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Totally agree with the high rep squats, my legs didn't put on hardly any size until I started going in the 15 rep and as high as 30 rep range. Never go over 315 squatting now, and mostly hang round 225lbs. Legs are growing like crazy.
 
iggy said:
400 deads with straps and a belt?

belt takes a lot of weight off. i can only deadlift 315 without a belt or straps.
got a weak back......
but i can squat much more.
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yes 400 with belt the most i ever did without a belt was 375 and that hurt
 
dabuffguy said:
If you're bulking up, but are going for the bodybuilder look over time, you can still just do body building workouts. How big you get depends on how much you eat for the most part. And for legs, I still stand by saying higher rep squats are way better for mass (bulk) than 5X5.
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Ok kool. Would this apply to benchpress and deads as well for high reps or just do the 5x5??
 
c24k said:
Ok kool. Would this apply to benchpress and deads as well for high reps or just do the 5x5??
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I'd stick to 5X5 on deads.

Bench could go either way. I usually do high rep bench, but have also gotten good gains from 5X5. I switch it up every 2 months between high rep/medium weight and low rep/heavy weight on bench.
 
dabuffguy said:
I'd stick to 5X5 on deads.

Bench could go either way. I usually do high rep bench, but have also gotten good gains from 5X5. I switch it up every 2 months between high rep/medium weight and low rep/heavy weight on bench.
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alright thanks yet again:biggrin:
 
for 5x5 i would do cleans, bench, and squats if i were you with deadlifting on wednesday and incline bench and even bb rows also on wed.
post your split so we can check it if you want.
 
ok well this is just a little update. I'm only my third week into a beastdrol 1-T Tren cycle. I'm NOT going for definition just size for now. I started at 155. I'm 170 now. i'm happy. i've come a long ways. I'm still not back to where i used to be which was 180. I just started a challenge with a friend May 1 to August 31, to see who will get the biggest and strongest i hope to finally push pass 200 mark. I'll put more photos up after that is over with.
Before @ 155 its not the greatest pic and its all i have: http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/PyrrhusofEpirus/meeee.jpg

For now as of 4/30/09:
Back. This is only a one side its a pain in the ass trying to take a picture of your back with a cell phone by yourself lol. and my tattoo blocks out some of the muscle in the picture and i'm NOT fully flexed i had to do this with one hand. http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/PyrrhusofEpirus/PIC-0059.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/PyrrhusofEpirus/PIC-0055.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/PyrrhusofEpirus/PIC-0056.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/PyrrhusofEpirus/PIC-0057.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/PyrrhusofEpirus/PIC-0058.jpg


 
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Took some new back pictures and yes again with the phone and by myself but these are better than the first. i really need to use a real camera and get some1 else to take the pictures so i can do a full flex...
EDIT: I came across a before picture of my back OCTOBER 2008:
yep.jpg


AND NOW AS YOU KNOW:
PIC-0060.jpg

PIC-0061.jpg
 
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