Just got T levels back

[DTOX]

Has anyone here used the avena sativa or nettles and had there blood tested to see if this took there free test levels up,and if so by how much?I also heard zinc would increase free test has anyone heard this?

I was on ZMA when I had my first blood test. My Free Test ratio was literally at the maximum.

And as Easy said, I stopped using ZMA and started taking 4mg/day of copper... did a great job of dropping my free test levels for my next blood test.

 

[easy]

My apmnt with the new endo is may 7. Do you think I would have more luck going thru the urologist that did my vasectomy?? Anybody ever got on HRT thru a urologist?

 

[dieman]

Thanks DTOX Ill try the ZMA,thats zinc right?I need to do something to bring my free test up mine is at the low end(12.7).
What brand you use and how much per day?

 

[dieman]

Ive read posts on guys getting HRT from urologist but nobody i know personally.when my doc reffered me to a urologist I mentioned a endo ,he said that was a good idea too,but a uro is used to dealing with just mens problems.Ill find out on May 6 i have appt with uro.

 

[DTOX]

Thanks DTOX Ill try the ZMA,thats zinc right?I need to do something to bring my free test up mine is at the low end(12.7).
What brand you use and how much per day?

When I was using it, I was using TwinLabs. Truth is, I think all ZMA is manufactured by the same company so whatever is the cheapest is the best.

The dose is 30mg/day taken at bedtime on an empty stomach.

(Worked great...which is why I stopped taking it before working on getting HRT.)

You may want to also:

-Make sure your diet is about 30% fat; 10% of that in polyunsaturated/EFAs (and as little saturated fat as possible if only for health reasons).

-Make sure you get 8-9 hours of sleep.

-Change your workout to more of a powerlifter routine with lower reps (5-7 per set) and concentrate on multi-muscle exercises like squat, deadlifts and bench. This will increase your testosterone more than doing higher reps and single-muscle exercises.

 

[easy]

Ive read posts on guys getting HRT from urologist but nobody i know personally.when my doc reffered me to a urologist I mentioned a endo ,he said that was a good idea too,but a uro is used to dealing with just mens problems.Ill find out on May 6 i have appt with uro.

let me know how it goes bro. my next appt is on the 7th so any good info you pic up that I could use would be much appreciated.

 

[dieman]

let me know how it goes bro. my next appt is on the 7th so any good info you pic up that I could use would be much appreciated.

ok bro ill let you know,and if I get any usefull info out of it ill
pass it along

 

[easy]

I'm going in tomorrow morning to the new Endo. I have been taking copper to flush out my zinc and taking green tea to raise my estrogen levels(thx DTOX). I havn't lifted in a week and have been doing alot of cardio to raise my cortizol levels. I work all night tonight so I'll be on the board for the next 16 hrs if anyone has any last minute advice. I figure between all that I've been doing plus my lack of sleep (4 hrs today) and none before the trip I should be rock bottom. I'll probably stop off for a couple of beers on the way to really lower my levels. Seeing as how last trip I was rocking the bottom of the charts with no manipulation, I should be way under tomorrow. Anyway, wish me luck.

 

[dieman]

Good luck easy and let us know how it goes!I dont think you'll have a problem as long as your under norm .
My appt. with the uro didnt go well today.I went in because my reg doc wanted a second opinion for ins. purposes and before he started injects.Well the uro had my previous blood work and since I wasnt below norm,I was at 313 total test before androgel,559after,he said in his opinion I didnt need any hrt .He said he just got back from some godamn conferrence on hrt and he didnt think increasing my levels to high norm would help any.Of course he didnt tell me any of this untill he had a chance to stick his finger up my ass.Thats midwest doc for ya.
He did say he would go along with my doc on the androgel,so my ins. should atleast cover that now.No free injects tho bastards.Guess i'll just have to add on my own

 

[easy]

Sorry it didn't work out for you bro. You could always try to manipulate the levels and try again. I think right now I'd be happy with the gel. anyway, I'll let you know how it goes.