Just got T levels back

[DTOX]

Not to go off on a tangent, but something to keep in mind with HRT:

Slower the release of Testosterone = less side effects.

I would *guess* that as long as you stay at 100mg/wk or less of Test Enth, that you'd have less balding and/or estrogenic effects then you would using 10mg/day of the gell stuff.

I could be dead wrong though if the day after your 100mg Test shot your levels are 2000 when they should be 800!

 

[easy]

Not to go off on a tangent, but something to keep in mind with HRT:

Slower the release of Testosterone = less side effects.

I would *guess* that as long as you stay at 100mg/wk or less of Test Enth, that you'd have less balding and/or estrogenic effects then you would using 10mg/day of the gell stuff.

I could be dead wrong though if the day after your 100mg Test shot your levels are 2000 when they should be 800!

Man I need all the help I can get on HRT info. I'm sure when I get the rest of my blood work back today I'll be off to an endocrinoligist. What is the best and most effective hrt method and dose? I also don't understand how I would cycle on HRT because I would never come off. That can't be healthy can it??

 

[biggerthanu450]

Read as much as you can about HRT to educate yourself. Androgel is a good method, but I found that 100mg of enanthate every 5 days is perfect for me for the following reasons:
1) My lipid profile does not get altered as long as I eat clean and do cardio.
2) I continue to make steady and consistent gains without doing "cycles"
3) My libido and energy remain very high
4) I have no side effects, but I use finasteride and 2.5mg of femara/week (split into 2 doses).
5) This method is cheap as one 10 ml vial of Tornel enanthate costs me only $35, and lasts 20 weeks!!
Hope this helps you!

 

[DTOX]

Man I need all the help I can get on HRT info. I'm sure when I get the rest of my blood work back today I'll be off to an endocrinoligist. What is the best and most effective hrt method and dose? I also don't understand how I would cycle on HRT because I would never come off. That can't be healthy can it??

Which do you think is more healthy:
- HRT under a doctor's supervision
- A lifetime of low testosterone

Regarding the "best" HRT method and dose, it's probably going to be up to you to find out what works best for you; which one makes you feel the best.

From what little I've read on forums like this though, there seems to be a bit of a preference for self-administration (shots) of 100mg/wk of Test. But then you'll have to convice/show the doc you can do the shots yourself, and also that 100mg/wk is better for you than 100mg every 2 weeks.

Wish I could offer more concrete advise, but I'm still in the "blood tests & arguments" stage with my doc.

 

[easy]

Well I got the rest of my blood work back today and everything is normal except my test level. I scheduled my endocrinoligist visit for monday so hopefully it will all be resolved then. Should I ask my doc for 100 mgs of cyp or enan a week or should I go through all the gell business first. Also, for those who get injections, how hard is it to get your doc to let you do it yourself. I have no prob doing it myself but I don't want my doc to hold out b/c he thinks I'm a juicer since I can shoot myself. Just seems weird since I've never met this guy before. Hopefully he will be liberal.

 

[GoinDeep]

I played dumb for the most part and any knowledge I gave I made it sound like recent research if you know what I mean. My doc seems cool. He did talk about all the different methods. So I did have a choice right from the start but the doc seemed to be leaning to the gel. So I said okay and got the 5mg.
When I originally asked the doc for something different, because of the messyness, ineffectiveness, and chance for wife and son's voices to deepen on the gel, we decided on the shots. I lost contact w/him and got his secretary to get my script. I had my wife pickup my script for 200mg T enanthate two days ago (only 5ml blah, cost 30 bucks copay for this and a few needles). I didn't wait for them to setup a time to show me how to administer the shot. I did 200mg (I'd like to do this every week. I feel better than I have since my 1st cycle last year). One of the nurses called yesterday but I wasn't home. She asked about the shot. My wife told her she thinks I already did it and that I was used to giving shots because I used to have to give them to our dog (a little different dog's were just below the skin mine intramuscular but close enough). I have to call the nurse this morning to tell her. If you want I'll do a followup on how it goes. LMK

P.S. When I was given the script for the gel the doc gave me a 3 month script w/3 refills not bad to have for emergencies, lol. You can always opt for the shot like I did afterwards.

 

[easy]

How high dose the gel get your levels up. I really want to hang around the top of the scale for a while to get back some of the muscle I'v lost over the last yr. I think 100mgs of cyp a week would do me nice.

 

[GoinDeep]

5g 50mg testerone you get about ten % absorbtion they say over a 24hr. period. It comes in other sizes also.
PM back @cha too

 

[easy]

Thx bro. I'll let ya know how it goes. My aptmnt is for 9:30 a.m. so hopefully I'll have my first "steriod" shot around 10:30.

 

[DTOX]

Have you guys had problems with your insurance co footing the bill?

I just did some research and found that mine doesn't cover Test Enath or Test Cyp! The only thing they cover is androgel.

I don't suppose there's something my doc could write on the prescription to force the insur co to cover?