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benecios

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of dbol,winny,anavar all at 20 mgs/day and finishing with Clomid.This was my first time taking any kind of steroid.What I would like to know is:was this cycle any good(I feel good now,gained 10-12lbs but from what I read over time it will disappear),how long do I need to leave before starting another cycle,and finally if anyone kind recommend a different cycle.
P.S. Needles are a definate no no.
Thanks in advance of your replies.
 
Your liver and lipids are taking a beating by using 3 orals at a clip, it is a low total dose though. Why no needles, you can get more effective and safer cycles with injectables.
 
needles are a no no?...then forget steriods my friend..i know your liver must be hurting with all those orals...look at it this way...your just going to keep spining your wheels if your not willing to inject.
 
bluehen said:
Your liver and lipids are taking a beating by using 3 orals at a clip, it is a low total dose though. Why no needles, you can get more effective and safer cycles with injectables.
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I just cant see myself injecting.Maybe if someone was doing it for me it would not be so bad.But I usually train on my own.
I will have get some balls and go for it I think.
 
swordfish151 said:
needles are a no no?...then forget steriods my friend..i know your liver must be hurting with all those orals...look at it this way...your just going to keep spining your wheels if your not willing to inject.
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Ditto Swordfish! If you aren't willing to inject stay with cell-tech. lol
 
benecios said:
I just cant see myself injecting.Maybe if someone was doing it for me it would not be so bad.But I usually train on my own.
I will have get some balls and go for it I think.
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Everybody is freaked out by injecting at first. Once you get that first one done though, you will be fine. I have now found that I am way more comfortable injecting myself then having someone else do it. I actually freak out a bit at the doc's office if I have to get a shot. I have actually asked if I can do it myself but they won't let me. Bastards. Get yourself a bottle of B12 and take a practice shot. B12 is completely painless and that way if you still find that you are a pussy, you have only wasted some B12. It really isn't that bad borly. You can do it.
 
Bro, injecting is really not bad at all and you're saving your liver a serious beat down considering the length of injection cycles compared to oral cycles. Just study the injection site pics and go for it. I posted this on here somewhere before but my first injection got aided by a SNEEZE. I was standing there with the pin pressed against my skin too scared to jab it in. I sneezed and looked down and the thing was in. After that it was just like F$ck it.... :rolleyes:
 
Ofcfriendly said:
Bro, injecting is really not bad at all and you're saving your liver a serious beat down considering the length of injection cycles compared to oral cycles. Just study the injection site pics and go for it. I posted this on here somewhere before but my first injection got aided by a SNEEZE. I was standing there with the pin pressed against my skin too scared to jab it in. I sneezed and looked down and the thing was in. After that it was just like F$ck it.... :rolleyes:
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Somewhat similar thing happened to me. I had it against my leg and I was shaking worse than I ever have in my life. I looked down and I had shook it about 1/4in into my leg. I just pushed it the rest of the way and never felt a thing.

Man up and do it, don't be a bitch with a dick. :)
 
Why is this stigma of oral-only cycles being the anti-christ STILL being perpetuated, and by well-informed and intelligent people at that? A straight anavar-only cycle will put lean weight on you, minimal liver impact, low lipid impact, easily keepable gains, not very dangerous AT ALL. The toxicity and dangers of oral steroids are vastly over-stated, even by those of us who use them. If you want another oral-only cycle, I'd suggest Tbol( Oral Turinabol). Better on the lipids and joints than winny, cheaper than var, and no water bloat or estrogen-related sides like dbol. 40-60mg/day of tbol is a nice, simple, oral-only cycle that poses little danger. Just take liver protectants. Of course, injecting is still the better route, I DO indeed suggest that you "man up" and inject.
 
Lupercal CATS said:
Somewhat similar thing happened to me. I had it against my leg and I was shaking worse than I ever have in my life. I looked down and I had shook it about 1/4in into my leg. I just pushed it the rest of the way and never felt a thing.

Man up and do it, don't be a bitch with a dick. :)
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Reminds of the time that I was taking Clen and then tried to do a glute shot.

My hands were shaking so bad, I swear the needle was moving back and forth a few inches. I finally just had to dart it in.
 
benecios said:
I just cant see myself injecting.Maybe if someone was doing it for me it would not be so bad.But I usually train on my own.
I will have get some balls and go for it I think.
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I will be 100% honest with you. Injecting into a quad with a 21guage needle feels like pulling a small hair from the same area. It is NOT bad at all, but I can tell you even with no pain at all, sometimes I need to get myself psyched up for it, even after 20 injections.
 
taste-icles said:
I will be 100% honest with you. Injecting into a quad with a 21guage needle feels like pulling a small hair from the same area. It is NOT bad at all, but I can tell you even with no pain at all, sometimes I need to get myself psyched up for it, even after 20 injections.
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Thanks for all the replies guys,I think I am going to give it a try.
After just finishing that potentially damaging oral stack how long would you wait before starting another cycle.
 
well u gotta wait about at least as long u were on. honestly. i never thought i could inject myself... all i did was have the loaded syringe about an inch from my glute , i said " if i feel pain i will stop" i didn;t feel anything and it went very easy. no need to freak when u dont feel any pain :)
 
even us vets had our day of shaking and getting psyched up for the "Big Stick"!

RADAR
 
RADAR said:
even us vets had our day of shaking and getting psyched up for the "Big Stick"!

RADAR
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i dont beleive that shit,,, your were born with 1 gram of test injecting in ya, lol...... it was pretty damn easy when i did it... i just wish i could get away way with once a week inj with my freakin 25s...... fuck it im ordering 23s right now.
 
ok 50 23's on the way... phewww... ok twice a week is fine now... glute, quad, delt or O-ring, im alll fuckin set
 
download and print instructions from sites about spot injections. there are a few good ones. the directions have diagrams and step by step instructions. the worst part is the very FIRST poke.

i have reached point of fearlessness about glute injects. the other day forgot to have bandaids on hand and walked around house to second bathroom to get some while needle dangled in my glute. didnt think twice about it. :o

after learning how to inject you will never think same of orals. now i look at them as little poison pills,m just waiting to cause liver damage. yes, even precious, overrated VAR!
 
RADAR said:
18's rock! you just need wood filler for the holes.

RADAR
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dont even joke big man! people will try if u say so...

glenns, i jst tape on an alcohol pad of tp on my ass or where ever, its all good... no need for a band aid if u got the Iso and TP lol
 
sweed said:
dont even joke big man! people will try if u say so...

glenns, i jst tape on an alcohol pad of tp on my ass or where ever, its all good... no need for a band aid if u got the Iso and TP lol
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Aint that the truth!


"I Was joking"
RADAR
 
You must have some thick-ass gear like ICN's or something sweed, I have no problems getting my homebrew through a 25g in my glute or delt, or a 29g .5in slin pin for pecs and other site injects. That ICN is thick as hell though, instead of taking 30 seconds for 2.5cc's through a 25g it takes like 2 minutes... it better be worth it! :)
 
sweed said:
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glenns, i jst tape on an alcohol pad of tp on my ass or where ever, its all good... no need for a band aid if u got the Iso and TP lol
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LOL. good thinking sweed!
 
Im just finishing up a similar cycle, just ending my 4th week and Im up 9 pounds, so Im psyched. No real strength gains, but size gains are there.
 
TheChisle said:
Im just finishing up a similar cycle, just ending my 4th week and Im up 9 pounds, so Im psyched. No real strength gains, but size gains are there.
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welcome to EF thechisle! and congrats on your instant popularity.
 
Damn Tux- i don't see how you shoot that with just a 25g..thats almost small as an insulin syringe....When i had Test cyp i used a 3cc syringe with 22g 1.5" needle--in the glute quick & never feel it break the skin. :cool:
 
Lupercal CATS said:
Somewhat similar thing happened to me. I had it against my leg and I was shaking worse than I ever have in my life. I looked down and I had shook it about 1/4in into my leg. I just pushed it the rest of the way and never felt a thing.

Man up and do it, don't be a bitch with a dick. :)
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Some guys are into that. LOL The hardest part was the initial penetration of the skin, then after that it doesn't hurt. I always thought that was cool in a wierd way.
 
sweed said:
i dont beleive that shit,,, your were born with 1 gram of test injecting in ya, lol...... it was pretty damn easy when i did it... i just wish i could get away way with once a week inj with my freakin 25s...... fuck it im ordering 23s right now.
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Some of us are born with silver spoons in our mouths and some of us are born with silver darts in our butts. LOL
 
benecios said:
Thanks for all the replies guys,I think I am going to give it a try.
After just finishing that potentially damaging oral stack how long would you wait before starting another cycle.
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Depends, how long were you on the all oral stack again? I usually go by half. If you are on for two months, take a month off, etc... That is assuming you were not supressing your natural test production too badly.
 
Just do it man. You'll be fine. For reference, I am sticking myself three times every day plus an extra one on Wed and Sun and I have yet to cry like a little girl. Once you run some test you will know why we are all telling you to inject.
 
gab9681 said:
Just Once you run some test you will know why we are all telling you to inject.
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:p and don't forget the tren!

it is true. injecting is a totally different experience than taking orals. a differnet level...a greater high.
 
glennds said:
:p and don't forget the tren!

it is true. injecting is a totally different experience than taking orals. a differnet level...a greater high.
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I dunno about you guys but within a few days of taking some test, I get a little harder in my tissues flexed.
 
taste-icles said:
I dunno about you guys but within a few days of taking some test, I get a little harder in my tissues flexed.
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i don't know about YOU, but i have no idea what you are trying to say. :confused:
 
Tbol is very hard on the kidneys :) make sure you drink loads of water and loads of cranberry juice once it gets so sore you cant move you will remember the wise words for ever !!!
 
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