Just another classic example of how fucked up my ex is...

[w8lifterchick]

You're sorry, but you did it anyway. I would have imagined someone with a 162 IQ could manage somewhat more consistency than you demonstrated in that post.

And since sympathy isn't to be expected on an internet chat board, why bother posting your pointless life story which is completely irrelevant to the discussion?

You assume a great deal in your conclusions without bothering to substantiate the claims. Maybe you need to learn how to stop projecting your personal experiences into the discussion before posting again in the future

I didn't have to assume- werd vollunteered her story to an internet chat board, nor was i looking for the sympathy she was- i was showing her that i'm not without understanding of how messy divorces can be. That doesn't mean I have to agree with her that she did the right thing in giving up her children unless she felt she wasn't the best caregiver- in which case i have an immense amount of respect for her.
I don't have to substantiate my "claims" since i didn't make any, other than my own opinion, which is based on the facts werd wrote and my own life experiences. You mentioned that my experiences were irrelivent to the discussion, but if its an actual "discussion", that involves opposing viewpoints. Based on the facts given to me, i had one.
You obviously feel you know something about her situation that I don't, that justifies what she did. If thats the case and there is more to it, then i'm certainly sorry if i caused her to feel bad when reading my post- but only she knows the truth and she shouldn't worry about what i think, nor should you, correct?
Personal attacks at anyone aren't going to help her, if thats what she needs.
Werd, like i said, goodluck.

 

[Longhorn85]

Longhorne - dont you think a judge would consider WHY the mother yielded custody and her behavior since?

I sure hope so for your sake, but I'm sure his lawyer will try to exploit this. I hope you and your kids are reunited to stay soon.

Maybe your lawyer should use the Solomon reference, it is a good one.

 

[jerseyart]

I didn't have to assume- werd vollunteered her story to an internet chat board, nor was i looking for the sympathy she was- i was showing her that i'm not without understanding of how messy divorces can be. That doesn't mean I have to agree with her that she did the right thing in giving up her children unless she felt she wasn't the best caregiver- in which case i have an immense amount of respect for her.
I don't have to substantiate my "claims" since i didn't make any, other than my own opinion, which is based on the facts werd wrote and my own life experiences. You mentioned that my experiences were irrelivent to the discussion, but if its an actual "discussion", that involves opposing viewpoints. Based on the facts given to me, i had one.
You obviously feel you know something about her situation that I don't, that justifies what she did. If thats the case and there is more to it, then i'm certainly sorry if i caused her to feel bad when reading my post- but only she knows the truth and she shouldn't worry about what i think, nor should you, correct?
Personal attacks at anyone aren't going to help her, if thats what she needs.
Werd, like i said, goodluck.

Sorry sweetie, but I'm having a difficult time keeping up with all the contradictions and deflections in your posts.

Let's start with your claim "I'm sorry if I'm being harsh.." If you were sorry, then why post what you did, since apparently you recognized it communicated something you did not intend to convey?

Or is it simply a matter of "I wish to be a bitch, but I don't want other people to think I am one, so let me cover my ass before submitting this post"?

In fact your post began with "I know the story, but sorry... don't buy it." Followed by a boring recount of your personal life, which I suppose was intended to add some absurd measure of credibility and sympathy to what came after.

Unfortunately what came after was simply a pathetic series of "supposedly'" and "if really." Now you claim that you didn't make any claims, which is techncially true. What you did instead was attempt to minimize her claims by interjecting "skepticism" and "incredulousness" into every statement she made previously. You don't refute her claims, you simply attmept to dismiss them as likely fabricated, and then run off to where you intended all along.

You end this post with a whine about personal attacks. Yet I am at a loss to find anything in your previous posts that can't be summed up with "your a liar, and a lousy mother. I would do so much better than you." Point out where your constructive posts are hidden, perhaps they were lost in all the useless and self serving self masturbation I was unfortunate enough to come across.

Finally, I really doubt she gives a crap what you think. But I get annoyed with people like yourself who take a serious issue, such as this, as an opportunity for personal self aggrandizemant and simply to be a bitch.

Don't get me wrong, I can be a bastard. But I don't try to pretend otherwise while doing so. If you are going to be a little shit, stop hiding behind "traumatic" alleged childhood experiences and protestations that "I'm not really mean, I just come across that way at times."

 

[Longhorn85]

I think w8lifterchick has offered an honest opinion based on personal experience. When we share something as critical and personal as this with others we may not always like the answers we hear.

The fact that Werd willingly gave up custody cannot be ignored or understated to make her feel good, that would not be fair to her. Better believe the judge and opposing lawyer won't ignore it.

 

[gab9681]

Also, "the more I want to slit my ex's entire families throats", you should probably delete this, not very cool to say.

Yeah, but we have all been there man. You have to admit that.

 

[w8lifterchick]

I think w8lifterchick has offered an honest opinion based on personal experience. When we share something as critical and personal as this with others we may not always like the answers we hear.

The fact that Werd willingly gave up custody cannot be ignored or understated to make her feel good, that would not be fair to her. Better believe the judge and opposing lawyer won't ignore it.

exactly.
I'm not going to reply to jerseyarts rediculous post just because it doesn't support his friend's level of parenting skills and i was honest in my thoughts that i do wish her luck and i am sorry she has to not only endure this, but to hear that she will not always be getting the pity she is seeking. I feel bad for anyone going through a custody fight but the answer is not always as clearly defined as we would like and we aren't always going to like what we hear. so to start a battle with anyone not on your side (Werd, i know you didn't- in fact, you were totally mature in your responses), is counterproductive.

 

[jerseyart]

I think w8lifterchick has offered an honest opinion based on personal experience. When we share something as critical and personal as this with others we may not always like the answers we hear.

The fact that Werd willingly gave up custody cannot be ignored or understated to make her feel good, that would not be fair to her. Better believe the judge and opposing lawyer won't ignore it.

Bro, absolutes are a poor foundation. Circumstances often dictate what must be done. The "I would never (insert self serving action)" crowd have in my experience always been the ones most full of crap. It also evidences an incredible lack of self awareness, as well as no appreciation for reality.

Also, since I'm not talking to whomevers female alter is posting today, please tell her that I know she is but what am I

 

[Gambino]

in these situations I always wonder one thing: If one person is so fucked up, so evil and sadistic, then what were you doing with him/her? why would you have children with somebody like this? People don't turn crazy overnight...

 

[w8lifterchick]

Bro, absolutes are a poor foundation. Circumstances often dictate what must be done. The "I would never (insert self serving action)" crowd have in my experience always been the ones most full of crap. It also evidences an incredible lack of self awareness, as well as no appreciation for reality.

Also, since I'm not talking to whomevers female alter is posting today, please tell her that I know she is but what am I

Dude, unless you live with Werd, you or i don't know her reality - only she does. If there is more to the story than what she said, then good, but if she didn't want anyone's opinions on the story she gave, maybe she shouldn't be airing her dirty laundry. Do you just want everyone to pity her and offer support? Cause i did tell her that i feel bad she's going through this and i did wish her luck a number of times, but that still seems to anger you.
And if you're referring to me as an alter- I post my workout here and a few EF members have met me at my last meet- so that statement is a little silly.

 

[jerseyart]

Dude, unless you live with Werd, you or i don't know her reality - only she does. If there is more to the story than what she said, then good, but if she didn't want anyone's opinions on the story she gave, maybe she shouldn't be airing her dirty laundry. Do you just want everyone to pity her and offer support? Cause i did tell her that i feel bad she's going through this and i did wish her luck a number of times, but that still seems to anger you.
And if you're referring to me as an alter- I post my workout here and a few EF members have met me at my last meet- so that statement is a little silly.

I thought you weren't going to respond to me. LOL

And nice choice of words in "dirty laundry." Was that what you were doing with your childhood sob story? Am I now entitled to say whatever self serving thing I wish about your upbringing and make it ok with a "I'm sorry if this sounds a little harsh"?

And I don't "wish" anything from you. Like her, you made public comments, and I am addressing them. Unlike you I don't claim to feel bad, or pretend whatever I said was unintended to be "mean." I know exactly what I have said, and I also know what you have written. I also know that if Werd had anything negative to say about you, she wouldn't couch it in silly little deflections of personal responsibility. But she has the courage of her convictions, something you apparently lack.

She has never in my experiences with her attempted to appear blameless or perfect.

You however strike me as a holier than thou type who feels compelled to point out what faults you perceive in others. What you deem a constructive exchange on your part, I see for the self aggrandizing effort of a woman who feels compelled to point out to another that "nah nah Im better than you." I'm sure I'm not alone in the assessment.