Juice alternatives....exploration....

[wartime100]

Mabey you had some fake sust.

 

[muscleup]

Your body does not know the difference in Synthetic Test or Test made by the Human body....Hence the reason your HPTA shuts down when there to much test floating around in your system...It sounds like the Test you were using may have been fake

 

[nautica]

Re: Not all juice is created equal....

I'm no expert, but as my friend explained it, not all steroids work for all people. Sustonon does not work for everyone. It appeared my body reacted to it in a way where it would not accept it. Don't ask me to explain how that works. All I know is that a week after I stopped using it, I started getting results off the other stuff I was taking.

Do you actually think that when you stop taking sustanon that it is done working. Do you even know the half-life of sustanon. Maybe you sustanon was just kicking in when you started making gains.

Also, you might want to let us know about your good diet and training so that we can better understand you problem.

Nautica

 

[Ferrus]

sust is not a four steroid stack...it is one type of steroid (test), with four different esters...thus the test is released into your bloodstream at different times...I like sust, but I've heard that it doesn't work well for some

try a single ester test such as enth, prop or cyp at 400-600mg/week (vet = cheap)

stack with fina (cheap) or EQ (cheaper than deca)

clomid and nolva on hand (cheap) and/or liquidex

take a few hours and peruse through the archives...there are lots of posts on basic cycles w/test/fina/eq

 

[Code]

I've never heard of anyone not reacting to testosterone.

It makes no sense. If test won't work, then why would anything else?

 

[nautica]

sust is not a four steroid stack...it is one type of steroid (test), with four different esters...thus the test is released into your bloodstream at different times...I like sust, but I've heard that it doesn't work well for some

try a single ester test such as enth, prop or cyp at 400-600mg/week (vet = cheap)

stack with fina (cheap) or EQ (cheaper than deca)

clomid and nolva on hand (cheap) and/or liquidex

take a few hours and peruse through the archives...there are lots of posts on basic cycles w/test/fina/eq

The reason it does not work well for some is that they are uneducated as to the use of sustanon. Pesonally, I do not like sustanon b/c it is too expensive. but if one will inject ed or eod then it should work no differently than any other form of testosterone. With the slight exception of the fact that esters carry weight in the total mg's so whereas in a test like suspension if it says 250 mg then it is 250 mg of test. That is not the case with suspension.


Good luck
nautica

 

[Baby Gorilla]

Diet & routine....

....Also, you might want to let us know about your good diet and training so that we can better understand you problem....

Okay, we'll drop the issue of Sustonon right now. Diet works like this....

TRAINING DAY diet....

• Before/After Workout Meals – 75% Carbs – 25% Protein
• Non-Workout Meals – 60% Carbs – 40% Protein
• Bedtime Meal – 40% Carbs – 60% Protien

Calorie breakdown for 5 meals....

• Pre/Post Workout Meals – 30% of daily calories each
• Non-Workout Meals – 15% of daily calories each
• Bedtime Meal – 10% of daily calories

Last cycle (Dianabol/Deca) I was at 4,500 cal/day. I did go up to 5,000/day but I just started packing on fat. Was at 3,500/day off-cycle, and I've dropped to 3,000/day to get off the fat I just put on.

Hard to say what my diet was back when I used the Sustonon as I changed my diet and routine since then. I did train hard and ate a lot though.

Current routine (used both on and off cycle)....

I use a 5-day program....

Three Routines...

1 -- Flat Bench Press, Incline Press, Shoulder Press, Side Lateral Raises, Ab Crunches
2 -- Lat Pull Downs, Seated Row, Shrugs, Dead Lift, Overhead Tricep Press, Dips
3 -- Squats, Leg Curls, Preacher Curls, Barbell Curls, Forearm work, Calf Raises

These are rotated like this...
1,2,3,1,2 - Week 1
3,1,2,3,1 - Week 2
2,3,1,2,3 - Week 3

Intensity Variation -- My change up factor (all exercises are set with weight that achieves failure between min and max rep)....

Week 1 -- 2 sets (8-11 reps) w/2 min rest period
Weeks 2 & 3 -- 3 sets (4-7) w/90 sec rest
Week 4 -- 4 sets (8-11) w/1 min rest
Weeks 5 & 6 -- 5 sets (4-7) w/1 min rest

I gained 10 lbs in my last 5 week cycle of Deca and Dianabol. How much the end improvement is depends on what I weigh when the fat comes off (get back down to my 33.5" waist).

Basically, I've been on 30mg/day Dianabol and 600mg/week Deca (810/week total). I wonder what options are more effective than these at lower dosages w/o ugly side effects.

Also, I've got fast-twitch muscle, so I get lean and ripped easier than I put on bulk. I want to bulk up a lot faster, but that just might not be possible for me at low levels of AS due to my body type.

You guys are great. Thanks for your help and advice.

 

[sicklydiesel]

i bet your were taking Nile sust..those fuckers suck IMO...take some testex cyp and tell me then your body rejects it.