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Joint problems...caused by gear?

OKIE

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Hey,

I am 25 years old and I have really bad shoulder problems. I had my first surgery when I was 17 because my right arm would dislocate at least once a week. I had a second surgery on my left arm 2 years ago because of the same problem. I never have a problem while I'm lifting, but my right arm just dislocated again last weekend while I was horsing around. I started having problems with both shoulders before I ever used AS. I was curious if you guys think I am putting myself in major jeopardy by continuing to use AS. I have only taken about 5 cycles total in the last 6 years, but I am currently stacking fina and sust. I also credit much of my problems due to the size that I have put on since I was 20, but I wondered how much I may be tearing up my joints by taking AS. I really don't want surgery again. Thanks for the help.
 
i think you are causing much more problems being on as, because you are getting stronger more weight could cause much more injury. If I was in your position and was going to use, dislocating it during lifting is on you, for your joints though, I wouldn't be using fina or sust as I would be using at least deca or anadrol in the cycle, one or the other, not both, in the same cycle. Deca and anadrol lube my joints nicely in a cycle, but as far as dislocating during lifting, of course this will do nothing. Fina isn't good to use with anadrol or deca as both together can cause gyno easily, so something like deca sust and d-bol wouldn't be bad, or anadrol sust is nice also, imop
 
Another important tidbit to remember is that when you are on cycle, simply because you can lift a certain weight doesnt mean you should .

For some, the strength increases on a cycle are what lead to injuries related to joints.
 
a lot of people have this problem...dont up the weight right away when you start to get strong never do that...just keep it at a normal weight...not too heavy..also deca/winny have been shown to help joints..also take some supps too that help the joints take agood amount of them too
 
ultragainz said:
a lot of people have this problem...dont up the weight right away when you start to get strong never do that...just keep it at a normal weight...not too heavy..also deca/winny have been shown to help joints..also take some supps too that help the joints take agood amount of them too

Well, deca helps the joints due to lubrication (an idea that Mustang_18 is all too familiar with :) ) however I think what you meant is that winny can cause joint pain, so taking deca with winny will help.
 
No...Winny has been shown to help so stacking it with deca can be good...there was a study posted by HUCK long ago on this
 
ultragainz said:
No...Winny has been shown to help so stacking it with deca can be good...there was a study posted by HUCK long ago on this

Really? Hmmm, im gonna have to search for that one, sounds interesting.

Whoa, wait a minute, I thought I told you in another post never to disagree with me.:p
 
Thanks for the help guys...Like I said, I never have problems with my joints while lifting...it is always playing sports or something. I understand Deca helps with pain in the joints, but what about afterwards? Once the Deca is out of my system, would I then start to see problems?
 
OKIE

I did 500mg deca/week for 10 weeks and my shoulders felt great for at least 6 months. Then they gradually got worse again. Now 8 months later I'm back on the deca, it truly does do miracles for your joints. I wish I could do it year round, because I probably would.

I've had both shoulders operated on!

You will like it.
 
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