the thing is...he doesnt want to step on stage. I highly doubt he trains like a bodybuilder. He is extremely athletic. I bet he is just hard core genetics with some good steroid cycles. If he changed his training and set goals to be a competitor..i bet he would do alright. A few of you are comparing him to what he would look like next to the pros...shit im just talking about doing a show or two if he set his goals like that. anyways..i wonder the kind of cycles he does? any ideas?