i've always kind of wanted to headbutt somebody

[casualbb]

i keep hoping for a legitimate reason to headbutt someone.

it's kind of extreme so i wouldn't bust it in a casual fight

i'm trying to think of some situation where it would be justified. like maybe if a guy threatened me with a weapon

 

[Judo Tom]

in most self defense situations you should never try to hold back or be merciful.

meaning if you feel its necessary to use force then use your best techniques first regardless. so long as the force you use does not overstep the threat you were faced.

so if a guy pushes you do not shoot him but you can headbutt him or do pretty much any other 'open handed' technique so long as once the threat is removed you stop as well so if you punch him and it doesnt stop him you can headbutt him but if that drops him you can not stomp on him if he is KO'd

i would also think that headbutts are too risky for most skilled fighters to use in a self defense situation and most would be better off using a more 'basic' technique which would have a higher percentage of being effective

 

[casualbb]

well yeah this isn't my plan for efficient self-defense, just a fantasy of sorts.

also i guess that inside i still have these instincts that say "youre not supposed to hurt people"

headbutt is pretty damaging... you can easily break a nose or even shatter an orbital

here's hoping that i never have to. but if I did, and it worked, i wouldn't complain

 

[Judo Tom]

yeah i have some fantasy type self defense moves i would love to pull off.. im a paranoid nut in some ways and i actually have a few re occurring dreams where i get jumped or mugged or carjacked.. so they keep replaying in my mind..

yeah the headbutt when used right will mess someone up..

i have the same type of instinct going on but that is why i really really like chokes because they KO a guy and yet leave no lasting harm in anyway.. perfect for self defense. also very easy to get in the street.

good luck

 

[TMK72688]

The rule of thumb (and legal i think) is you can return the force that was delivered to you..

 

[Judo Tom]

it is the level of threat in most states..

so if i guy swings a bat at you it is an intent to kill so you can attempt to do the same.. regardless if the swing misses or not..

laws vary state by state.. so dont take my word for it.

also in some states ifyou can 'escape' you cant use force until you no longer have that option..

 

[casualbb]

also in some states ifyou can 'escape' you cant use force until you no longer have that option..

i take issue with that. what if I don't feel like running? what if the guy really needs a beatdown?

something sounds wrong with ... "you CANNOT protect yourself, you must run"

 

[Judo Tom]

oh i totally agree and if you go to a trial jury most will agree also but you are always better off knowing the laws..

and as some will say..

better to be judged by 12 then carried by 6

 

[Wazzzzzzzup89]

Who says anything about going to court for it? Fuck the cops and the courts they gotta catch me first. If someone attacks me and I can beat him down im sure as hell not gonna run, thats a last resort.

Headbutting freaking rox when your up close.

 

[casualbb]

amen wazzup

i figure if someone blatantly starts shit with me and i beat them down, i'm emptying their wallet as payment for bothering me.