thank you wombat, I posted here about like 3 or 4 months ago saying how kamali trained with bob chick at the gym, and king K had no arms what so ever and he has a laughable physique and is a lame bber. Now as for flex, I think he looked great for being natural, and chris cormier he looked great I think, and for nassar yeah the synthol in his shoulders totally distracted from his whole physique, it wasnt natural looking with symmetrical lines, he was big as hell but was just not symmetrical and bodybuilderesque like. I love ronnie coleman, but to be honest........well ronnies muscles and muscle bellies are phenomenal, but I thought gunther was going to shock everyone and win, he looked great, but I think all and all when you pose ronnie chris and kevin next to each other the judging was justified, ronnies whole muscles and physique was sick, his back, legs were like phenomenal, and kevin was huge but his back was not all that great, that is his weak point, and chris cormier, well he is one of the greatest but he just cant beat ronnie, just like all the other dudes......ohh yeah I thought triple H was a great announcer/broadcaster, he really knows bodybuilding, him and mike mazz were great together!