Is Winstrol making me heavier??

[Boston Strangler]

My last winny only cycle I started out at 285 and finished at 307, i leaned out but I blew up like a muthaf'er. I know this isn't the most common occurance, but it is possible to blow up on anything if your genetics are built that way.

 

[ryan04]

After a few weeks of winstrol I noticed hair all over my pillow and even more falling out every time I ran my fingers through my hair. Fuck that shit!

 

[Boston Strangler]

After a few weeks of winstrol I noticed hair all over my pillow and even more falling out every time I ran my fingers through my hair. Fuck that shit!

Really?? hmmmmmm

 

[Jenetic]

Jenetic,

My study was an example of what one should post, if you pulled your head out of your ass you could see that. If you go re-read my posts without this egomaniac thing you have going, you would see that I clearly stated that I didn't feel any thermogenic effect from AS because it DOES NOT have any and is not supposed to have any.

Androgens DO NOT have effects on lipolysis, it's not a fact, it's BS you're putting forward without true facts. When you come back with studies on athletes or bodybuilders to back your point we can talk, for now you're wasting my time.

Honestly, I wasn't expecting much more from you then this after you pulled that fiasco on MMSFitness where you tried to blame Spook for calling you FONZ, and you pretended you were in China or some BS like that. Give me a break Jenetic, I've been on these boards for over 6 years, and I've seen "gurus" like you come and go, so in the end of the day everything that I read from you I find just as educating as the crap I used to read on Tredia - where everyone was a guru.

When you stop saying that EVERYTHING is FACT because YOU said so, then we can continue this conversation, for now you're just another "self-made" guru trying to prove his point on the internet instead of trying to educate people as I do.

Mr.X

The facts are on the table now.

Pull my head out of my ass? Please, let's be a bit more civilized with our choice of words. However, there is no need to apologize as I can understand your frustration. It happens to us all.

You of all people should know better than to cry about your personal issues with me on the open forum. It's obvious that Spook and yourself are culturally and intellectually handicapped. The bounty hunter threat was pretty cute as well keyboard cowboy. Check my IP. You will clearly see that I am in an Asian country. I suppose the idea of an American living elsewhere is too worldly for a redneck to comprehend.

The self made guru accusation is a figure of your own dellusional and limited perception. I've always appreciated posts by Huck, Andy, Zyg, Juve, Macro and Ulter. Their knowledge and specialized expertise ranges far beyond my abilities and I am fortunate to have had the opportunity to read and learn from their posts.

If my answers frighten you, you should cease to ask scary questions.

Jenetic

 

[psychedout]

How about I add my two cents.

All things equal, I am always leaner while on then off.

Human experience is what matters most to me.

My guess at why? Well, using AAS = more muscle. More muscle = more calories burned. More calories burned = less fat.

 

[renda]

Body Fat

Alrite Mate My Names Renda Im From London England.your Message Caught My Eye...so Basically Your Saying If I Had Unwanted Body Fat And At The Same Time I Wanted To Bulk Up I Could Do So By Simply Bumpin Up My Testosterone Levels(roids)?? Last 2yrs Ive Gone From A 28waist(69kg) To 36waist(80kg) And Really Wana Be A 28 Again But...can I Make Any Good Use To This Increase In Body Fat Or Do I Av To Slog It Out On A Tredmill(gerball Style) Any Tips Bro???
Renda

 

[Ulter]

I have a hard time with this separation of older men and body builders Mr X. Are you saying that visceral fat in older men is different from the visceral fat in the men on this board? How is it different?

AS can absolutely tip the balance of fat and lean in favor of lean if all else is equal. And in some case when it's not equal. I can raise my caloric intake by 50% and lose weight with AS. In fact I can eat whatever I want and lose weight if I am taking the right AS and enough of it. And I am certainly not alone. If I shoot 100mg/day of tren acetate I can eat anything and still lose fat. Tren is not well understood by the medical community, because it's not for humans, so don't ask for studies. But I will bet there are a thousand posts here by people who say that when they use enough tren they can eat whatever they want, are soaking the sheets at night from night sweating, they can't sleep, and are burning off pre-existing fat like mofo's. No offense to whoever questioned AS taking on the properties of a thermogenic but that sounds a lot like a thermogenic effect to me. Anything that increases my metabolism so that it makes me sweat, not sleep as much, and out strips my ability to replace the calories I burn has to be considered somewhat thermogenic.
Of course you can gain weight on Oxandrolone or winny. But they still burn off fat that you wouldn't burn off without them. Anyone that questions whether or not winny makes you burn off more fat than you would without it should go back a read Fukkenshredded's posts again.

 

[roidpuple]

they would help but diet and cardio are A number 1.... and there are better drugs for losing fat...

 

[Mr.X]

You of all people should know better than to cry about your personal issues with me on the open forum. It's obvious that Spook and yourself are culturally and intellectually handicapped. The bounty hunter threat was pretty cute as well keyboard cowboy. Check my IP. You will clearly see that I am in an Asian country. I suppose the idea of an American living elsewhere is too worldly for a redneck to comprehend.

Jenetic,

We all know where you were, and we all thought you were FONZ, whether you are or not, it doesn't matter to me - you came off very badly making drama out of nothing with the spook issue, coming out calling ppl. idiots. You can treated like you treat others Jenetic.

Jenetic, I live in Mexico now so why is the idea so wild? give me a break, you know that you were just stirring shit with spook.

Mr.X

 

[Mr.X]

I have a hard time with this separation of older men and body builders Mr X. Are you saying that visceral fat in older men is different from the visceral fat in the men on this board? How is it different?

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What I'm saying is that comparing Bodybuilders and Athletes to 80 year old men doesn't make any sense. Their insulin sensitivity is worse off, they have lower test. levels and overall are in a DIFFERENT condition then a bodybuilder. The fat cells might be the same, but the activity levels, insulin responses and other facts alike (metabolic rate included) are completely different.

Mr.X