is there a way to speed up reflexes?

[Kane Fan]

Since you won't tell us that you are a worl champion I think it is safe to say you are not.

Where are you training and with whom? Not answering is not going to help your case.

Sure, post your research data. I can bring a whole load of eastern bloc research to support what I say.

So you discount boxing or the simple fact of reflex speed in the dollar bill--of course that means your idea carries more weight than others.

Support your argument.
As for you personal contention that defense is begtter: Love to hear your record as a professional fighter--since you must be one, right? Vague asnwers aren't going to prove anything.

ON this thread as in athletic training centers for world class and Olympic atheletes (have you gone to one) it seems that you are the only one that thinks that waiting for someone to pull the trigger is better than pulling the trigger (sorry if you think the analogy is not isomorphic).

Dig through the Soviet research to validate in a verifiable non ancedotla manner. Or go talk to any Dutch Kick boxing trainer or the Kronk Gym, etc.

Nice discounting of Rocky Marizzano--avoid it at all costs.

or compare the number of people that win from the bottom of a take down
it has happend but even people that won from the possition would rather have been on top (would rather have been the aggressor)
tho you can gain things from fighting defensivly
especially if you outclass the other guy
if he comes in for a punch and leans you can slip or dodge to the side and come with a straight punch and add your two momentums together for the impact
in general I agree tho it's better to be the aggressor

 

[Kane Fan]

I don't need to prove anything. I do not attend or participate in tournaments and never said I did.

If you read the original post carefully you will see that the question did not relate to tournaments or professional sports but used an example of one martial artist demonstrating his ability to defend against an attack from another person.
My whole point is that I agree with the martial artist. I can and have avoided being hit by an attacker including an attack with a knife and I did this while being on the defensive posture.
I am a martial artist and have trained with the highest ranking Sensi outside of Japan in my art. I have also trained with the Grand Master of that art.
The test for 5th degree Black belt in this art is to avoid a sword strike from behind while kneeling in Seiza and with the attack coming silently at an unknown time from the Grand Master himself.
This requires an accute command of awarness skills and the control of timing. This is the whole key to this type of response. I do not believe in ever attacking another for any reason other than self defense including the attempt to prove my skills in a match or tournament. By the way we also train in dis-arming attackers with firearms. This more that any other tequinique requires control of timing.

dude I know what your saying ha some merit but I have to say you are not trying to counter the points being made you are trying to throw up a smokescreen
when he said he was pretty sure you had never competed with world class talent, you countered with he could not know
however he was right so apparently he could know
see the problem with a martial art compared to a sport is martial arts are generally practiced (and there are exceptions let me put that out there right now) with people who are not actually trying to hurt you
a sport is practiced day in and day out by people who dedicate their lives to that pursuit!
so a sport gets rid of all the stuff that is too complicated to be useful and commits focus to the practical
this is why a kung fu master matched up with a muy thai fighter more often then not winds up laying on the ground holding his leg groaning
it is also why a boxer can more often then not lead a martial artist with a fake punch and catch him when he overdoes the dodge
naturally there are exceptions (Ill say it twice!) but in general those are the outcomes of the matchups

there are advantages to being on the defensive and you should have a strong defence if you are going to compete or opt for something other then running in terror from a fight, but being on the offensive has advantages to andyou fail to see that
or at least you seemed to fail to see that perhaps I missread you if so I am sorry

 

[Kane Fan]

Re: Sport

The first post was talking about sport fighting and athletes in various disciplines of it this is why we all continued in this vein.

It is always easy not to compete--I think reading of Bruce Lee will give adequate comment on that subject.

Best gun disarms and best techniques ever were pioneered by two men in the USA--guess what? They used an empirical method to arrive at the techniques.


Under this reflex talk there has been all of the following:

movement speeed
Choice reactoni,
perception,
visual processing
mental selection
visual tracking
afferent to effernt traiining
hard wiring of the nervous system

all of these are specific and individual points to improve the potential that is in each person with their own genetic envelope.

There are sequential methods to improve all of these parts (that is what the Eastern Bloc Sports Scientists did). Not to believe in this is to have never seen the 50 foot shark.

Empricial methods always beat randomn "felt it in my gut" training.

And before any sort of other comment is made--yes, I do get paid to enhance those learning strategies (i,e, visual processing, tracking, afferent to efferent, hardwiring, etc)

The first question to ask is what am I tryhing to improve and why?

From there a professional can design a protocol.

Hope that makes it clearer this time around for you.

ever do probono work?
I have good handspeed and would like to make it as good as I possibly can

 

[Kane Fan]

Re: The easy way out

Data needs no "Defense" Data is simply available information. I am not trying to "Produce winners". I am as I have stated several times simply making a point for those that are interested on the subject.

You seem to have a need to prove your self to the readers of this forum. You speak of all these "Facts and Data" but you offer no real "Facts and Data".
I suspect that since you charge people money for your services (Which is fine) that your initial reason for coming to this forum is not for edification but to sell your business.

And looking at your posts you are new here, with only a few posts to your credit which only strengthens the theory that you are trying desperately to discredit me in an attempt to gain some sort of validation here.

This is silly since I have no need to sell or prove anything. I simply enjoy sharing my ideas with the regular readers here and in a few other forums on the EliteFitness site.

I hope you are sucessfull in your business and continue to grow and learn about the things you are currently missing in your very narrow view of the world.

martial arts masters from all over the world huh
al these martial arts masters also do not compete right?
so they have never been really tested

 

[Kane Fan]

So Bam, you are saying you have a 5th degree in bujinkan ninjutsu?

So Dr. Masaaki Hatsumi deliverd the blow huh? They use a wooden sword I believe although the first few actually did it with a real sword.

The way you said it's all about awareness skills and timing is incorrect. He will make you do it again if he thinks you're trying to hear it or feel. When you dodge it it is supposed to just happen with no particular effort from yourself. That's why you're supposed to relax and clear your mind when in seiza. At least this is what I have read. The bujin are supposed to protect you if they feel you are worthy.

Who is the top ranked guy outside of Japan nowadays? Is it Bud Malmstrom in ATL, georgia or Doron Navon in Europe?

I've got practically every legitimate book on ninjutsu ever written and I would love to train with a great instructor on the west coast, but have no clue who is around. I would honestly like to make it a permanent part of my life just like lifitng weights is. I've been collecting them since I was 9 years old lol.

How is Dr. MAsaaki doing. He's getting really old now, although I hear he is spiritually as powerful as ever.

well a friend of mine has an uncle, who knows a guy into ninjitsu
however that guy lives in Japan so I don't think that helps you any
can I ask why the interest in Ninjitsu?
I am new to posting here so you might want to pm me inc ase I have trouble finding this thread again

 

[Kane Fan]

strategy and skill will decrease your reaction time as well

when you are very skilled you will recognize what someone will most likely do because you have seen it before and will see it coming..

strategy can allow you to set someone up for something so you know how he will react before he does..

just trying to add something

yes strategy!
that is the problem with a standard martial art
they teach technique, pattern and general concepts
but they rarely ever teach strategy!
that is my favorit way to determine if I think someone is or has potential to be a good fighter, I just talk to them a bit about fighting (sport fighting usually not a street fight) and if they come back with concepts on combinations or a specific move or two I think 'this guy will need work'
if he answers with a STRATEGY like try to be defensive for awhile and see if he attacks in a patern, or try to disrupt him, if he wants standup try to clinch, if he wants clinching get to the ground if he wants the ground game work him from outside etc, then I think this guy may not know a hook from a front kick but with traininghe could be a danger

 

[Judo Tom]

sorry but a lot comments in this thread are incorrect maybe because people were arguing or just trying to prove a point but..

defensive fighter vs offensive fighter
its up to the fighter his skills his training his attitude to determine how HE will be most effective.. its not just a this way is better thing.. that mistake has been made before it is up to the fighter. in every art/style there are people who are more effective at counters/counter punching/ slip jab to takedown.. whatever but you can just say one is better then the other its not maybe for YOU but not for everyone.

top position vs bottom position
ok im nobody special so dont ask.. im not a world champion or anything like that but i do compete a lot. and i do win a lot of fights on the ground. and i win more fights with my back on the mat and my oppononent on top of me. i need to be effective from this position because i am smaller and lighter then most people i fight and wind up on the bottom. the thing is i need to create a situation where being on the bottom is the dominant position. my instructor who won most of his fights on the ground almost always won from a top position because he was super strong and big and was able to get on top.. but he also had to ensure that the top position was the dominant position

IMO you must be very careful when creating rules in fighting. what works for one might never work for another.. generilizations are good but adaptation and specific strategies are what make good fighters great fighters..

also im suprised no one said winny? WTF?

good luck