Is there a successful way to do an androgen free cycle with only GH,insulin,T3?

[kbrkbr]

I have found that insulin does virtually nothing for me unless I'm using it in conjunction with aas.

 

[BBC]

I have found that insulin does virtually nothing for me unless I'm using it in conjunction with aas.

For me, it's quite the opposite. Pumps were insane( bad enough that i had to stop in the middle of my workouts)

Hunger was through the roof, i literally could not get enough food(that's not a good thing, when trying to keep the fat off).

And I put on 15 pounds with little fat gain, and no water retention. Although some poundage could be atributed to glycogen storage(?), but I put on mass, weight, and size.

By the way, I ran 5 weeks of humalog at 10-15iu post work-out, and 5 iu's in the morning.

The way it works for me, insulin on it's own, rivals, if not surpasses AAS in many areas including sides and results.

For me the risk-reward ratio, insulin wins hands down.

 

[Anthony Starks]

I have found that insulin does virtually nothing for me unless I'm using it in conjunction with aas.

For me also, I don't know what the hell BBC is talking about.

 

[cryptkeeper]

im thinkin of runnin something like flexdiesel just posted, but maybe with some long R 3 igf thrown in. i also hear that taking the slin with creatine/carbs n' protein post workout is a good idea. anyone else?

 

[Lowest]

So far, I've seen better results with IGF than GH. Granted, my IGF dosages were higher, and I've not run GH but 2 months so far, but IGF is probably a better bet for you. T3 at 25mcg/day would be the highest I'd go without gear. You could alternate 4 weeks of IGF with 4 weeks of slin while doing the GH throughout. I usually lose fat and gain strength on IGF, gain weight and size on slin. So, going from one to the other keeps you from being on slin constantly and allows you to get rid of any fat you might accumulate while on the slin. But, I like gear myself, so I haven't actually tried what you're thinking, though I have run IGF/T3/clen without gear and had nice results.

 

[BBC]

For me also, I don't know what the hell BBC is talking about.

Everything i posted, I experienced.

Do you think that insulin is useless without AAS? With all those who use it in PCT, without losing anything,and sometimes gaining muscle mass. Oh, don;t forget bridging , I'm sure insulin has never been used for that.

Do you realise, insulin is regarded as the most anabolic hormone produced by the body. But i guess it's useless to you 2 without the addition of AAS, right?

I admit Insulin and AAS are are pretty damn good combination, but slin by itself can never be dissmissed.

Just because something doesn't work for you 2, doesn't mean it can't and won't work for others.

 

[yomama]

im tired of th side effects from AAS, mainly body hair growth, mild hair loss, and the ups and downs with sex drive. i want to feel normal always, SO, my question:

would it be productive to do cycles from now on that only consist of 4IU GH daily, 6 weeks on/off of T3, insulin after workouts, and clenbuterol for 3 weeks here and there? my main goal is to keep all my mass and consistently shed more fat. im worried about losing mass. anyone ever try anything like this with success???

Insulin isnt going to be better than steroids for you, side effect wise.

 

[cryptkeeper]

i'm seriously considering starting the following right after the thanksgiving weekend:

GH 3IU 6x per week
long R 3 IGF-1 ?mcg ?x per week
insulin 5IU post workout only w/creatine
T3 25-50mcg daily

i wanna do this for 3 months
i will gladly post my results midway thru and upon finishing, but first i need you guys to help me with the dosaging and cycle duration. your input is needed. i did a little research on long R 3, but i dont know the typical standard dosage(is it 40mcg daily?) or how long i should cycle it(3 wks on, 3 off?)

 

[yomama]

i'm seriously considering starting the following right after the thanksgiving weekend:

GH 3IU 6x per week
long R 3 IGF-1 ?mcg ?x per week
insulin 5IU post workout only w/creatine
T3 25-50mcg daily

i wanna do this for 3 months
i will gladly post my results midway thru and upon finishing, but first i need you guys to help me with the dosaging and cycle duration. your input is needed. i did a little research on long R 3, but i dont know the typical standard dosage(is it 40mcg daily?) or how long i should cycle it(3 wks on, 3 off?)

where does someone get insulin?

 

[BBC]

Insulin isnt going to be better than steroids for you, side effect wise.

how so?

AAS- Lipid profile(to deternmine the possible risk of coronary disease)
Kidney Value tests
Liver value tests
Prostate level tests
BP level tests
RBC(red blood sell count)
Cholesterol levels
Testosterone levels( could end up low, requiring HRT)
Sodium Levels( AAS users retain more sodium)

ALL OF THESE THINGS CAN CATCH UP TO YOU.

Not to mention: Acne, Hairloss, gyno(especially tren, or nandrolone induced)

Just let me say this. this isn't a public service announcement. I've used AAS, and would probably do again if i didn't have better options available to me