Is **'s gear just shit or what?

[macrophage69alpha]

I like how everyone who bashes someones products always talks about their dirty facilities and substandard ingredients. Have any of you been to these facilities and witnessed any of this garbage you are trying to sell as fact? I did not think so. And I have heard of no infections as of yet from IP prods. And these other infections and abcesses are probably from people that don't bathe properly or clean any of the tools entering their bodies.

I never said that the facilities were dirty.. if you are reffering to me.. what I posted about was the general condition of the asian pharmaceutical market.. especially china and india.. who time and time again have failed to meet USP standards.... though many companies do comply..

the reason for no infections is the EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF BENZYL.. which is unnaceptable for other reasons.. and a heath hazard.. this goes for the ttokkyo products that have had this problem and the Denkall t-400... it is not necessary to have that concentration of steroid at the expense of adding toxic amounts of benzyl.

the tabs, though they seem to vary in quality and potency, are a good deal.. even if, as some have posted, it varies from batch to batch. though for women.. due to potential existence of other analogs.. they are not reccomended. Most people really like them, though lots of posts on the Drol falling short.

with the more expensive drugs, especially Win and OX, probably DROL as well, ** should have them independently HPLC tested.. the cost is minimal.. especially with the quantities of raw material that he is using.

JMHO

 

[macrophage69alpha]

And these other infections and abcesses are probably from people that don't bathe properly or clean any of the tools entering their bodies.

this is just uncalled for..

 

[jboldman]

this is really irritating!

And just what amounts of benzyl alcohol are toxic? Toxic? Using industry standards outlined in the msds for ba, we find that the oral ld50 for rats is LD50 (ORAL RAT) IS 1230 MG/KG, now if extrapolated out to human use(which is the general idea of the ld50) that would mean a dose of 123,000mg's for the average 200kg bodybuilder! Give me a break!

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the reason for no infections is the EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF BENZYL.. which is unnaceptable for other reasons.. and a heath hazard.. this goes for the ttokkyo products that have had this problem and the Denkall t-400... it is not necessary to have that concentration of steroid at the expense of adding toxic amounts of benzyl alcohol.....................................................

JMHO

 

[muscleup]

Every gear has it's bashing day...I've heard peopel say bad shit about Tornel, denkall, brovel, Ttokkyo and **....But then again you've also read where alot of people love and stand by these brands...Results vary greatly for different people and diet is 90%of the equation gear or not....Hey all you newbies that say **'s cyp sucks or this that and the other sucks....Post your real diet and training log and I almost could bet thats the reason for the lack of gains made...

 

[lexus_2001]

hey muscleup, im on his cyp now, a gram a week and i fronloaded. what my schedule like? 2 grams of protien per lb of bw and 2.5 with carbs...my training? 4 times a week with about 11 sets per bodypart, so unless that sounds wrong then **'s cyp SUX!!!!!!!!. His eq aint bad though - lexus

 

[PBS]

Yea thats all i hear is bashing **, i dont have any experience with him so i dont know anything about him.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Re: this is really irritating!

And just what amounts of benzyl alcohol are toxic? Toxic? Using industry standards outlined in the msds for ba, we find that the oral ld50 for rats is LD50 (ORAL RAT) IS 1230 MG/KG, now if extrapolated out to human use(which is the general idea of the ld50) that would mean a dose of 123,000mg's for the average 200kg bodybuilder! Give me a break!

ORAL...

but looking up the ld50 was a good idea.

the issue is tissue... both irritation and damage at the site of INJECTION...