Is r-ALA better than regular ALA?

[SOLID]

haven't tried the ala but the r-ala has made a diference in my physique...I ran out got on this new creatine SWOLE and bloated up like a ballon held alot of water lost the veins I had previously, droped the Swole, got some more r-ala and poof veins and feeling of tightness is coming back. I'm sold...just wish it was cheap

 

[Frackal]

My thoughts:

Firstly, this is not meant to be an asskissing post, but I will say I support Macro, Ulter et al because thusfar they have been pretty fucking honest and fairpriced.

(well ok I swear yohimburn used to be 59.99 not 69.99 for the big one =p )


AF/MP Tech is pretty much the only supp company I dont think is shit anyway, at least they put out hardcore products and dont bullshit. I am very much looking forward to trying yohimburn soon on my face and abs. (will post results)

Now, when it comes to r-ala vs. racemic. I just turned 20, I have tried kilosports, nutriteam, BAC racemic and of course AF r-ala. I feel the nutriteam is the best racemic ALA judging just by the pumps I got from it. From what I've read I feel that if your goal is 100% pure hardcore bulking not concerned about added bodyfat from the increased insulin than perhaps the racemic is a better choice. All other times I would vote for the r-ala. I have been using it for about 5 weeks now I think and I've steadily lost bodyfat whilst preserving muscle coming off my cycle, I am sure I've lost at least a 1% bodyfat in the last week and a half since I changed my food intake and upped my r-ala dosage.

Another thing I noticed about r-ala is that if I take 400mg before my morning meal, (150 grams potato flakes, lowfat cottage cheese, whey) than I go into hypo and get very sleepy and shaky ... this would not happen even at 900mg of nutriteam's.

I cannot comment on the distended gut factor because I was genuinely eating over 7,000 calories a day including a gallon of whole milk which will make your gut puff out to the moon.

The anti-oxidant factor, who knows? But I assume r-ala is better from the studies.

Now even though I am 20 and I am sure I have a good insulin sensitivity to begin with because I'm naturally lean, I have seen a big, worthwhile ($$) difference with both ala's in terms of pumps and muscle hardness.

 

[luto199]

Well i was at the gym today and my deads were up and my back presses jumped a bit. When i was done working out i weighed myself and i was 3 pounds lighter than Monday. I started on the r-ALA last Saturday i belive.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Crap... I should have thought to solicit comparisons from people over 40 ONLY.

at 30+ the responses should be fairly consistently positive with respect to more noticeable insulin sensitization (as this seem from all anecdotal evidence to be a hormonal turning point and an age where insulin sensitivity is at the very least declining among most..)

likely as you move up age categories.. responses will be better and better.

perhaps another poll to see....

obviously there should be an increase in insulin sensitivity among all users but the affects will be more pronounced among certain categories.. with age being one of them..

there are quite a few other categories.. but focused on age as that is more universal a category .. time marches on..

 

[rangerx83]

Hi there,

As most of you guys know I was the first proponent of massive ALA doses for fat loss purposes (do a search). Before that most people (well, maybe except for Fonz) were talking about taking the usual 300-400mg ALA for liver protection.

I have been incredibly surprised by r-ALA. I'm 41 and at first I thought it wasn't working, since I was using the bad effects of racemic ala to gage the efficacy of r-ALA. I used to take 5000-6000mg racemic ALA per day, and while it did work, I had to deal with those unpleasant side effects, such as heartburn and intense sleepiness.

With r-ALA I get the same vascular, and fat reducing effects as plain racemic ALA for less than a third the amount. Plus I don't get sleepy or experience heartburn. As a matter of fact, with r-ALA I am more alert than usual after I eat.
Usually when I eat a carb laden meal (even without taking any ALA) I do get a little tired and sleepy, due to the insulin spike's effects. ALA reduces that tremendously, and seems to give me a very, very even energy level.

I have been combining r-ALA with CoQ10 and Acetyl-L-Carnitine and I feel great!

And as I said before I'm 41.

regards,

Rangerx83

 

[SofaGeorge]

And as I said before I'm 41.

regards,

Rangerx83

Ranger, can you post your dose pattern for r-ALA?

 

[rangerx83]

RangerX, can you post your dose pattern for r-ALA?

Certainly.
Morning upon awaking: 200mg r-ALA + 500mg A-L-C + 200mg CoQ10 On empty stomach.

I wait an hour before I eat breakfast.

Morning with breakfast: 200mg r-ALA

Noon: 300mg r-ALA

Preworkout carb drink (220g carbs) 600mg r-ALA

Postworkout meal 300mg r-ala

evening snack: 200mg r-ala

Total 1800mg r-ALA per day which is slightly less than a third of my original ALA dosage per day, namely 6000mg.

You can skip the first part with the ALC, since I'm doing that for anti-aging purposes...

I'm also doing 50mg T. Prop + 80mg Tren EOD. Saturday is my last injection.

BTW, I would estimate that you need just under 3mg r-ALA per carb gram...

(That's right, I eat 600g carbs per day roughly, that's almost 1.5 lbs, and still vascular at 3.2%bf! )


Regards,

--RangerX83

 

[macrophage69alpha]

ALC is a good addition.. there may be some synergy.. at least from a performance aspect..

btw- ALC tends to make other supps look cheap.. ... very cheap..

 

[rluto]

THIS is luto199 on my cousins computer
Thats crazy Macro!!! One week for one bottle? I bet ulter loves you j/k
BTW ulter wouldnt it be sweet if you could get us good fellas here at elite a sweet deal for buying a few bottles

Usually when I eat a carb laden meal (even without taking any ALA) I do get a little tired and sleepy, due to the insulin spike's effects. ALA reduces that tremendously, and seems to give me a very, very even energy level.

I can vouch for this!

 

[macrophage69alpha]

ranger,

have you tried lower doses? to see if you can get the same or similar effect?