Is r-ALA better than regular ALA?

[Fonz]

Hbone I agree with luto if you are going to spend the money on the r-ALA don't pollute it with the racemic. Once you get the body that you want maybe rotate them EOD.

OK. Got the R-ala and normal ALA.

Plus, I have a glucometer. The one with the Softclix system.

What I'm going to do is measure the impact of
both r-ala and r+s/ala on my blood glucose levels.

If r-ala lowers BG MORE than normal ala mg per mg, THEN
it can be said its BEST for bodybuilding purposes.

Fonz

 

[SofaGeorge]

OK. Got the R-ala and normal ALA.

Plus, I have a glucometer. The one with the Softclix system.

What I'm going to do is measure the impact of
both r-ala and r+s/ala on my blood glucose levels.

If r-ala lowers BG MORE than normal ala mg per mg, THEN
it can be said its BEST for bodybuilding purposes.

Fonz

Fonz, it ws just suggested to me:

"Ask him to consider first thing in the morning testing (empty stomach) followed by identical meals for three days... one to establish base... on ALA... one r-ALA... then testing BG over the next 2-3 hour period."

 

[Fonz]

Fonz, it ws just suggested to me:

"Ask him to consider first thing in the morning testing (empty stomach) followed by identical meals for three days... one to establish base... on ALA... one r-ALA... then testing BG over the next 2-3 hour period."

You read my mind........LOL

I'm going to be doing 5 measurements/day.
In the AM(before eating), and then before and after meals .

This is how its going to work:

Wake up(5AM): Measure BG. T=0

Eat Meal 1. 8AM (T+3)

Measure BG 2 hours after. (T+5)

Eat meal 2. 1 PM (T+8)

Measure BG 2 hours after(T+10).

Eat meal 3. 6 PM(T+13)

Measure BG 2 hours after(T+15)

END.

Meals are exactly 5 hours apart and are the SAME.

(This is REALLY going to REALLY SUCK palate wise.)

Its going to be bars/protein powders.......

We shall see.....

I shall make a new post for this.

Fonz

 

[macrophage69alpha]

fonz,

would avoid bars.. as glycerol potentially may have an impact on both blood sugar and test.. if not using bars with glycerol.. disregard..

 

[SofaGeorge]

You read my mind........LOL

I'm going to be doing 5 measurements/day.
In the AM(before eating), and then before and after meals .

This is how its going to work:

Wake up(5AM): Measure BG. T=0

Eat Meal 1. 8AM (T+3)

Measure BG 2 hours after. (T+5)

Eat meal 2. 1 PM (T+8)

Measure BG 2 hours after(T+10).

Eat meal 3. 6 PM(T+13)

Measure BG 2 hours after(T+15)

END.

Meals are exactly 5 hours apart and are the SAME.

(This is REALLY going to REALLY SUCK palate wise.)

Its going to be bars/protein powders.......

We shall see.....

I shall make a new post for this.

Fonz

Fonz, I know this is pie in the sky to suggest to you - but if you have access to a Gluco-Watch that would be the best option. It will give you 4-5 automated tests per hour (non invasive.)

If you don't have ready access to a GW I will be running your same experiment soon wearing one.

I know it is a pain in the ass... but you may want to do more BG tests following at least one meal... like every 10-20 min. If your monitor is invasive this will be a pain in the ass (more like in the finger) but it will show how fast up/down r-ALA/ALA might bell curve on effectiveness.

 

[SofaGeorge]

fonz,

would avoid bars.. as glycerol potentially may have an impact on both blood sugar and test.. if not using bars with glycerol.. disregard..

Instead of bars I would try measured meals with an estimated GI/carb impact.

Even an Egg McMuffin has a pretty established base GI/carb impact... and it is a measured meal.

Australia now requires GI listing on grocery items, and many diabetic packaged meals already include it. It isn't to hard to get a GI estimate for many of the top frozen dinner lines that are sold internationally.

 

[Fonz]

Instead of bars I would try measured meals with an estimated GI/carb impact.

Even an Egg McMuffin has a pretty established base GI/carb impact... and it is a measured meal.

Australia now requires GI listing on grocery items, and many diabetic packaged meals already include it. It isn't to hard to get a GI estimate for many of the top frozen dinner lines that are sold internationally.

One big problem.

ALL meals HAVE to be the same for my test to be objective.

I think I'll buy some pre-mixed 50/50 Pro/carb drink
and use that only.

I'll probably be dreaming of meat by day 3....LOL

Oh, and btw I have the Gluco-Trend BG monitor. Got it
in the UK. Took me a while to figure out where to buy
the right testing strips.

Fonz

 

[Fonz]

fonz,

would avoid bars.. as glycerol potentially may have an impact on both blood sugar and test.. if not using bars with glycerol.. disregard..

Noted.

Scratch Protein bars then as mine is LOADED with glycerol.

The other ALA I'll be using btw is Kilosport. This should
prove interesting in any case as I don't believe
anybody has ever measured ACTUAL BG fluctuations
in a PERSON with any kind of ALA

I can't believe I never thought of this sooner.......

Fonz

 

[caiza]

fonz where do you buy your ala from mate?

 

[Hugh Gellatts]

"I've been getting pretty experimental with high carb meals. One night I put away 5 Thai dishes then two triple scoop Sundays at Baskin Robbin (covered in chocolate sauce of course). This was following eating high carb meals each of the previous days. I took a ton of r-ALA prior to the Thai dishes and the triple scoops. No change on my waistline, caliper measurements, or LBS on the scale... and I normally cannot get away with high carbs at all.

I followed this up a couple nights ago by quaffing a pint of Ben and Jerry's Carmle Fudge... with another high carb meal prior to that. Still no change on the waist line, calipers, or scale.

If I low dose r-ALA I see definite change in b/f. Higher dosing I am not.

The jury is going to be out on r-ALA for a long time, but for now it gets more and more interesting as the real world lab rats experiment with it."




(in sappy Tom Cruise Jerry Mcguire voice):

sofageorge....you had me at 'triple scoop.'