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Is it ok to smoke Gonja while juicing???

jackhammer said:
its a must. I do everyday.
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as do i


Helps me eat AND sleep.
 
I do not see any problem with it. It is a lot better then drinking alcohol while jucing.

Moderation is key. Being stoned every waking moment is a waste of life IMO.

Also, if you have access to a vaporizor use it so you save your lungs a little.
 
doublebicep said:
I do not see any problem with it. It is a lot better then drinking alcohol while jucing.

Moderation is key. Being stoned every waking moment is a waste of life IMO.

Also, if you have access to a vaporizor use it so you save your lungs a little.
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agreed
 
I agree with quad but I do it very little because rec drugs effect me very much, I dont have a high tolerance so I just stay away.

E
 
Quadsweep said:
I do at night to help me sleep and chill out..great for sex too!;) It can raise estrogen but I think it is very slight in amount.

Quad
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I don't get high but when I went to see a surgeon about my gyno, he never asked me if I juice, but kept asking me if I smoke weed. He said that can cause it.
 
that whole "weed causes gyno" myth is just that...
a myth.

It came about from a very very flawed studies in the 50 or 60's. The study was not controlled at all.

imho..weed and bodybuilding go together, just dont get high before you train.
 
I smoke before the gym because I find it gives me way increased focus. I smoke after to help the pain out from the incredible pumps. Especially late cycle Dbol pumps. It may not be good for you lungs, but it's great for recovery.
 
i sometimes smoke a bowl of dro before i do arms it helps me concentrate on hitting them with all i got, as far as weed causes gyno my dad has mild gyno and he says its from 30yrs of smoking pot...to each their own
 
i have not blazed in 6 weeks............. and its KILLING ME.. but gotta et a diff job withn the next two weeks so i had to let my body clean out
 
I smoke in moderation, and using a bong or vaporizer saves your lungs some damage. It definitely helps me get my calories up and relieve stress. Sometimes I will prepare some form of high protein meal before I smoke.

I only smoke 3 times a week MAX. Even if I wasn't too busy to do it more often, I still can't justify spending all that money.
 
cheap vaporizors will ruin good weed. go ahead and splurge, itll last you a long ass time.
 
Damn there are alot of potheads on this board. i smoke only on the weekends...i can't smoke and train though, you guys are fuckin crazy that do :o
 
I can't smoke and train. I'm burnt after 30-35 minutes and want to go eat and or relax. Afterwards is a good bonus. I used to smoke 4-5 times a day now only 1 or 2 times per week...if that. Doesn't hurt your training as long as you get your workout done before smoking.
 
I enjoy taking a big rip in the parking lot before walking into the gym. By the time I'm ready to pump, I can concentrate so much better and work out so much harder than sober. Just keep a gallow of water handy cause the cotten-mouth sucks.

Didn't arnold smoke after big workouts to "relax the muscles" ... Clinton would be proud ...

ARNOLD FOR PRES IN 2008!
 
yeah seriously..how the fuck do you guys train and smoke? The only thing that gets a workout when i smoke is my forearms from lifting blunts and my thumbs from playing video games
 
You guys are smoking some weak shit if you train right after smoking.

Not a big fan myself, maybe 2-3 times a month if that. I usually drink (4-5 drinks) once or twice a month and drop E every 3-4 months on special occassions. That's about it for me.
 
I smoke before I lift, but not b4 boxing. And trust me it aint weak. I was wondering where you guys find these "vaporizers"??? Also, there is some studies that show that mild marijuana smoking is actually a bronchodilator.
 
KOArtist said:
I smoke before I lift, but not b4 boxing. And trust me it aint weak. I was wondering where you guys find these "vaporizers"??? Also, there is some studies that show that mild marijuana smoking is actually a bronchodilator.
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your local headshop or search around online...
 
AWESOME THREAD!! I actually wanted to start one like this, but I wasn't sure about the rules. I smoke 3-4 times a week.....especially after a workout (and subsequent shower) it feel GREAT. You really feel the pump in all your muscles you worked that day, and you feel ripped. I love it. I did hear, however, about the whole estrogen thing. Does anyone have any articles or anything that addresses this? I used to burn down like 2x a day, but my tolerance got way too high and it cost way too much, so I stopped doing that.

I have also smoked b4 lifting, and I do notice I move slower, and more chilled out in the gym, but when good music hits, I REALLY get into it, and I can throw up some massive sets. Karma for the threadstarter!

-rvd_brock
 
smoking weed was the downfall of my lifting about 1.5 years ago. Dont get me wrong it isnt the weeds fault i love weed, its my fault for not going thorugh with it and doing lifting first. I would blaze at 11 in the morning and i would be burnt and not wanna lift. Then the night time blaze also. Its all good. i havent blazed in 6 weeks and dont plan on it till my cycle is over. i start in 1 week.. so i wontbe blazing for another 12 weeks lol.
 
You can still train if you smoke strong shit, just not for very long. This is why I only smoke after workouts now.
 
daily with the chronic! I love the weed, every night. Bump for God's greatest herb -- the ganj!
 
I went from blazing 4+ times a day to not at all...been over 7 weeks. New job, random drug tests for the first year, fucking sucks. I was hoping to be a little smarter without the herb but I haven't noticed much of a difference. Lots of extra money, though. Looking forward to getting high in about 50 weeks.
 
I could never smoke before a workout ... unless it was home, I just hate being in big public places when I am baked. Also for me ... my workouts take lots of mental focus ... I think that the weed would distract me.

After workouts though ... there is nothing better. I like to smoke when I am going to relax and veg .. ei watching a movie or something .... its great for fucking too. Only about 3 or 4 times a month now for me ... its more of a treat that way.

Mavy
 
DAMN!

I actually expected on a forum like this, that if a q about weed came up you all would say: NO!, BAAD FOR YOUR HEALTH!, And all the classic "be healthy" lines...

I`m shocked!

By the way, I`ve tried weed 2 times... Agreed: Better than a gallon of whisky!

(the day afterward..)
 
Fuck, I feel like a leper now! Am I the only one who doesn't do any of that? I have never tried E & haven't smoked weed in over 10yrs. I occasionaly drink when I'm not on while watching the game on TV or something. It would be my luck, I'd smoke one for the first time in a long time then have an accident at work & lose my job! I definately don't think I could train while stoned, it used to make me lazy as hell when I did smoke. I'm a much bigger fan of weed than I am of alcohol though, alcohol causes waaaay more problems to yourself, family & even people you don't know in the case of drinking & driving.
 
Wow.....Before I opened this thread i was thinking about all the damn flames this guy was going to get. Some of these responses really surprised me. I just transferred colleges and have yet to find a stoner friend, let alone someone that lifts weights. Kind of a "nerdy" school I guess.
Anyway, I like to burn one right after I get out of the gym. I get horrible munchies. Luckily Mc Donalds has those $1 chicken sandwiches. I used to be on the wake and bake program, but i don't do shit once I get stoned. I don't really put a limit on it. If I have everything taken care of like homework, etc... I'll just have a day were I bake out and play XBox. Unfortunatly I don't have many of those days. Great Thread.
 
supertech69 said:
Fuck, I feel like a leper now! Am I the only one who doesn't do any of that? I have never tried E & haven't smoked weed in over 10yrs. I occasionaly drink when I'm not on while watching the game on TV or something. It would be my luck, I'd smoke one for the first time in a long time then have an accident at work & lose my job! I definately don't think I could train while stoned, it used to make me lazy as hell when I did smoke. I'm a much bigger fan of weed than I am of alcohol though, alcohol causes waaaay more problems to yourself, family & even people you don't know in the case of drinking & driving.
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ahh dont feel like that bro, im with ya

i think weed is cool here and there, but never on a regular basis.

weed makes me lazy as fuck and dumb as hell

like i said here and there is cool
 
supertech69 said:
Fuck, I feel like a leper now! Am I the only one who doesn't do any of that? I have never tried E & haven't smoked weed in over 10yrs. I occasionaly drink when I'm not on while watching the game on TV or something. It would be my luck, I'd smoke one for the first time in a long time then have an accident at work & lose my job! I definately don't think I could train while stoned, it used to make me lazy as hell when I did smoke. I'm a much bigger fan of weed than I am of alcohol though, alcohol causes waaaay more problems to yourself, family & even people you don't know in the case of drinking & driving.
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I recently tried E for the first time this year, so you are not exactly weird. I think weed sucks but mainly because it affects my throat. I only do it when evrybody else is doing it. Plus I'm the best roller in the group, Nathan can't roll for his life :)

We went to this woman's house looking to score some ass, she introduced us to 2 women, but it turns out they are hardcore lesbians and lovers. So we want to leave, but the woman won't shut up (she's drunk) and she wants to roll a joint.

Nathan says he'll roll. He rolls the sorriest ass looking joint I've ever seen. The woman grabs it, and she starts bitching and laughing her ass off. She even calls her lesbian friends to come and see. So Nate is embarassed, he says Andy is the best roller, let him roll. She looks at me and says "why didn't you say anything! "I say well I'm Humble (yeah right lol) well then roll us a joint, I joke around saying I don't work for free.

She calls the 2 lesbians to come and give us blowjobs. We're both disgusted and yell out at the same time, No, no, no, it's alright..Nathan stares at me and says; Roll man, just roll.

I roll a sick joint and we get the fuck out.
 
Weed is a bodybuilder's friend. It improves relaxation, increases appetite, doesn't cause dehydration or a hangover and doesn't affect the liver.
 
damn alot of pot heads here lol........u guys ever think it fucks with your training? if it is your cup of tea go for it, just not my thing i guess...
if you want to get fucked up, why not angel dust or something strong?
i guess it is your own choice, i just figured it has to be counter preductive.....
 
I proposed a WEED / TRIBEX / M stack at Tmag

I got some good responses at T-mag with that subject. Weed lowers T by 73.8ng/dl not much.

The thread morphed into an discussion about low t levels.. R.S. Rising wrote an insightful response..

Ok, let me be more specific on how you can tell- you have to gauge certain reactions to foods, training, sex drive, attitude, over a period of time. You can't just say I'm full of T after a workout or after sex, as you are right. But, if for a whole week you are breaking out with zits on your shoulders, your skin is oily as hell, you eat until there is no tommorrow and don't crap any of it out, you find yourself lowering your standards of women you'll have sex with, you smell sex, (and a really huge one here-) women smell way more T on you, these are some signs. This is also relative as you pointed out, these signs may mean you might have higher than your normal t-levels but not nessasarily high levels. Recovery rate and strength increases over time is another sign of raising t-levels. These signs are even easier to recognize in women though
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BigAndy69 said:


I recently tried E for the first time this year, so you are not exactly weird. I think weed sucks but mainly because it affects my throat. I only do it when evrybody else is doing it. Plus I'm the best roller in the group, Nathan can't roll for his life :)

We went to this woman's house looking to score some ass, she introduced us to 2 women, but it turns out they are hardcore lesbians and lovers. So we want to leave, but the woman won't shut up (she's drunk) and she wants to roll a joint.

Nathan says he'll roll. He rolls the sorriest ass looking joint I've ever seen. The woman grabs it, and she starts bitching and laughing her ass off. She even calls her lesbian friends to come and see. So Nate is embarassed, he says Andy is the best roller, let him roll. She looks at me and says "why didn't you say anything! "I say well I'm Humble (yeah right lol) well then roll us a joint, I joke around saying I don't work for free.

She calls the 2 lesbians to come and give us blowjobs. We're both disgusted and yell out at the same time, No, no, no, it's alright..Nathan stares at me and says; Roll man, just roll.

I roll a sick joint and we get the fuck out.
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LMAO.....I take it they weren't the kind of lesbians every man dreams of ;)
 
Riight, this was a bit surprising, but in a nice way :)

So, talking about rolling good spliff's, how about this one:
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My girlfriend made that one, gotta love her :-)

//SlimSwede in the promised land of coffeeshops and windmills
 
ANyone smoke at night and then feast before bed? What do u eat? I
m always nervous I'll go to town on some bad food......popcorn always sounds awesome, but I usually satisfy my fix with the peanuts, veggies and ff dip.....suggestions?
 
I don't think the drug policy in the US works that well, what a bunch of junkies! LOL

This is the method for saving your lungs and avoid the smell:

blend your cannabis into a powder (food processor)
put it in a jar with acetone, and close it.
let it soak for a few days, shake once in a while
filter out the powder and throw it away
evaporate the acetone in a ventilated place at room temp.
add some ml of alcohol, shake well
put the alcohol with cannabinol in an eye dropper
place a few drops on alu foil, evaporate
put a lighter some inches below the foil and suck vapors through a straw or piece of pen
 
supertech69 said:
stoned, it used to make me lazy as hell when I did smoke. I'm a much bigger fan of weed than I am of alcohol though, alcohol causes waaaay more problems to yourself, family & even people you don't know in the case of drinking & driving.
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Drink & driving; smoke and flying ...
 
Sigmund Roid said:
I don't think the drug policy in the US works that well, what a bunch of junkies! LOL

This is the method for saving your lungs and avoid the smell:

blend your cannabis into a powder (food processor)
put it in a jar with acetone, and close it.
let it soak for a few days, shake once in a while
filter out the powder and throw it away
evaporate the acetone in a ventilated place at room temp.
add some ml of alcohol, shake well
put the alcohol with cannabinol in an eye dropper
place a few drops on alu foil, evaporate
put a lighter some inches below the foil and suck vapors through a straw or piece of pen
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What is the consistency of the cannabinol after evaporating the acetone? Any chance of just using that without putting it in alcohol?

Personally, I keep a bullet of hash on the shelf next to my PC. I have a small airtight pipe that doesn't release any smell. I take one or sometimes two hits, exhale the smoke (out the window if I am indoors), and that's enough for me. The pipe closes and seals the smell of the hash inside. It's very convenient. I only smoke about once per week on average, so I don't worry too much about my lungs.
 
plornive said:
What is the consistency of the cannabinol after evaporating the acetone? Any chance of just using that without putting it in alcohol?
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real sticky gummy oily consistancy. basically its soft hash... you can scrape it up but its REAL messy. just easier to mix it in alchol and then dropper it out. the first bit of heat from the lighter will evaporate any alcohol and you'll be left with basically what you are looking for.
 
shape said:
62 replies on smoking pot-MODS thisis pretty pathetic
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Here we have it folks, Ashcroft's mini-me!

:rolleyes:

(I won't even get into how benign mj is compared to tobacco and alcohol.)
 
You can also soak it in alcohol , like vodka or gin. Soak like a quarter for like 4 days in a pint of whatever you want. Strain it - your good to go. Used to do this before college football games.
 
doublebicep said:


Here we have it folks, Ashcroft's mini-me!

:rolleyes:

(I won't even get into how benign mj is compared to tobacco and alcohol.)
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Exactly. Good to see some of you bro's are informed. Unlike Shape, etc. Tobacco and alcohol are absolute poison compared to THC. Word Life.
 
Good thread, been watching it for a few days. here is the problem i see with MJ in the US today. It being illegal is starving bro's from good products. You can't just walk in and get a specific type, strain, mix of weed in the local store, so you have to buy from the streed. To 90% of smokers weed is weed. The weed is either Ok, mid or great (KB).

But to me weed is not just weed. I like to play with the different strains and their mixes like sativa and Indica. For training i would go with a predominantly Sativa based strain, as those are energazing and offer a distinctive "UP" type of high that makes you want to do stuff.

IMO my favorite BY FAR for all occasions is a AAA+ quality WHITE WIDOW. This stuff is by far the BEST i have ever tried. I talking religious experience on 3 hits.

try it if you can so lucky as to find some in the USA. Viva holland.
 
gwl9dta4 said:
Good thread, been watching it for a few days. here is the problem i see with MJ in the US today. It being illegal is starving bro's from good products. You can't just walk in and get a specific type, strain, mix of weed in the local store, so you have to buy from the streed. To 90% of smokers weed is weed. The weed is either Ok, mid or great (KB).

But to me weed is not just weed. I like to play with the different strains and their mixes like sativa and Indica. For training i would go with a predominantly Sativa based strain, as those are energazing and offer a distinctive "UP" type of high that makes you want to do stuff.

IMO my favorite BY FAR for all occasions is a AAA+ quality WHITE WIDOW. This stuff is by far the BEST i have ever tried. I talking religious experience on 3 hits.

try it if you can so lucky as to find some in the USA. Viva holland.
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In that case check out www.overgrow.com
 
gwl9dta4 said:
Good thread, been watching it for a few days. here is the problem i see with MJ in the US today. It being illegal is starving bro's from good products. You can't just walk in and get a specific type, strain, mix of weed in the local store, so you have to buy from the streed. To 90% of smokers weed is weed. The weed is either Ok, mid or great (KB).

But to me weed is not just weed. I like to play with the different strains and their mixes like sativa and Indica. For training i would go with a predominantly Sativa based strain, as those are energazing and offer a distinctive "UP" type of high that makes you want to do stuff.

IMO my favorite BY FAR for all occasions is a AAA+ quality WHITE WIDOW. This stuff is by far the BEST i have ever tried. I talking religious experience on 3 hits.

try it if you can so lucky as to find some in the USA. Viva holland.
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ahhhaa! i know what you're talking about bro! i got a BADASS hookup and i smoke only the FINEST of the fine. just recently got some 1 hit wonder... haven't topped out on it yet. the more you smoke the higher you go. its fantastic.

this past summer i had a bud take a trip to amsterdam... he said that of all the stuff he tried over there it wasnt' any better than what we usually get back here :p

i've had a guy call me a "weedsnob" before b/c i didnt' want to smoke some brown shwag with him... i just can't smoke crap weed after experiencing it the way God intended it to be :fro:
 
doublebicep said:
I smoke 2 joints in the morning.

I smoke 2 joints at night.

I smoke 2 joints before playing video game and then every ten thousand points....I smoke 2 joints.

:rasta:
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Sublime:fro:
 
Re: I proposed a WEED / TRIBEX / M stack at Tmag

twistedneck said:
I got some good responses at T-mag with that subject. Weed lowers T by 73.8ng/dl not much.
Post references please.

Most recent studies have reported no decrease in T.
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gwl9dta4 said:


But to me weed is not just weed. I like to play with the different strains and their mixes like sativa and Indica. For training i would go with a predominantly Sativa based strain, as those are energazing and offer a distinctive "UP" type of high that makes you want to do stuff.
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Nice post, gw. Though I pretty much take what I get (ranging from fair to fastastic), I've noticed huge differences in terms of what different stuff does for you when you work out high... Some grass is really energizing and focusing, some types just make me too sluggish to train productively.
 
ANyone smoke a little spliffy to relax at night after a hard training session, pass out for a little, then wake up a pound a nice frosty protein shake and peanuts?????????????? Think this is a bad idea, eating so close to bed?? (or even in bed....LOL)
 
I am amazed at this thread, how can i put this... smoking pot is bad for you!! Even without tobacco u are getting a ton of tar )weed has more tar than tobacco) , caricogens etc. Yes of course it can help to cause cancer you are inhaling smoke for gods sake. Its ruining your cardiovascular health which is so important to being able to withstand a hard workout.

BTW its nothing to do with it being ilegal nothing at all.
 
I can't smoke before I lift. I hate being in public like that when Im high. Plus I can't workout worth a shit, but I do smoke some of the best. I want to stop, I would find myself with alot more money at the end of the month is I did.
 
Krazykat said:
I am amazed at this thread, how can i put this... smoking pot is bad for you!! Even without tobacco u are getting a ton of tar )weed has more tar than tobacco) , caricogens etc. Yes of course it can help to cause cancer you are inhaling smoke for gods sake. Its ruining your cardiovascular health which is so important to being able to withstand a hard workout.

BTW its nothing to do with it being ilegal nothing at all.
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Weed has more tar than tobacco ? Did you get that off a government commercial or government study ? I actually have no clue but I am curious. Is there any proof of this ?
 
BIGNUTT said:
I can't smoke before I lift. I hate being in public like that when Im high. Plus I can't workout worth a shit, but I do smoke some of the best. I want to stop, I would find myself with alot more money at the end of the month is I did.
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I got stoned for the first time the other day before my workout. It was one of the best workouts I've had in a while. I was so focused. I don't think I will workout again unless i'm stoned.
 
Krazykat said:
I am amazed at this thread, how can i put this... smoking pot is bad for you!! Even without tobacco u are getting a ton of tar )weed has more tar than tobacco) , caricogens etc. Yes of course it can help to cause cancer you are inhaling smoke for gods sake. Its ruining your cardiovascular health which is so important to being able to withstand a hard workout.

BTW its nothing to do with it being ilegal nothing at all.
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That is complete bullshit. Tobacco has far more carcinogens than the cannabinus plant. It may affect cardio, but not nearly as much as tobacco. I don't know anyone who smokes 10-11 joints a day, as most cigarette smokers do. Check out ripper2's link. The ONLY negative about weed is the loss of motivation. The reason behind it's illegality is PURELY political (hemp oil is cheaper and about as efficient than crude oil, yet another reason for it to be illegal). I also have never ever heard of a documented case of lung cancer linked to marijuana (those who have it that smoke weed also have been chainsmokers for years).
 
magnesium is good for insomnia

I only smoke skunk cannabis

You should be careful that u don't become too reliant on cannabis.. I have smoked skunk everyday for 5 years... I am down to just 1/16 per week, but it's still a habit/addiction...
 
When did I ever say it was worse than tobacco or had more caricogens. Thats right I didn`t, but any smoke is carcicogenic and put simply bad for you! Its ilegality is basically political, it has a long interesting history which I can`t go into here. But thats besides the point, as I said its ilegality is of no significance. Sure weed tokers smoke less than cigarettes, but its still not good.

Tar etc, check out this study

Marijuana smoking and head and neck cancer.
Hashibe M, Ford DE, Zhang ZF.
Department of Epidemiology, UCLA School of Public Health, Jonsson Comprehensive Cancer Center, 90095-1772, USA.
A recent epidemiological study showed that marijuana smoking was associated with an increased risk of head and neck cancer. Among high school students and young adults, the prevalence of marijuana use was on the rise in the 1990s, with a simultaneous decline in the perception that marijuana use is harmful. It will be a major public health challenge to make people aware of the harmful effects of marijuana smoking, when some people view it as the illicit drug with the least risk. The carcinogenicity of delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) is not clear, but according to laboratory studies, it appears to have antitumor properties such as apoptosis as well as tumor-promoting properties such as limiting immune function and increasing reactive oxygen species. Marijuana tar contains similar carcinogens to tar from tobacco cigarettes, but each marijuana cigarette maybe more harmful than a tobacco cigarette since more tar is inhaled and retained when smoking marijuana. More molecular alterations have been observed in bronchial mucosa specimens of marijuana smokers compared to nonsmokers. Field cancerization may be occurring on the bronchial epithelium due to marijuana smoking exposure. Several case studies were suggestive of an association of marijuana smoking with head and neck cancers and oral lesions. However, in a cohort study with 8 years of follow-up, marijuana use was not associated with increased risks of all cancers or smoking-related cancers. Further epidemiological studies are necessary to confirm the association of marijuana smoking with head and neck cancers and to examine marijuana smoking as a risk factor for lung cancer. It will also be of interest to examine potential field cancerization of the upper aerodigestive tract by marijuana and to explore marijuana as a risk factor for oral premalignant lesions.
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Dont kid yourself into thinking weed is harmless. It aint.
 
Krazykat said:
When did I ever say it was worse than tobacco or had more caricogens. Thats right I didn`t, but any smoke is carcicogenic and put simply bad for you! Its ilegality is basically political, it has a long interesting history which I can`t go into here. But thats besides the point, as I said its ilegality is of no significance. Sure weed tokers smoke less than cigarettes, but its still not good.

Tar etc, check out this study

Marijuana smoking and head and neck cancer.
Hashibe M, Ford DE, Zhang ZF.
Department of Epidemiology, UCLA School of Public Health, Jonsson Comprehensive Cancer Center, 90095-1772, USA.
A recent epidemiological study showed that marijuana smoking was associated with an increased risk of head and neck cancer. Among high school students and young adults, the prevalence of marijuana use was on the rise in the 1990s, with a simultaneous decline in the perception that marijuana use is harmful. It will be a major public health challenge to make people aware of the harmful effects of marijuana smoking, when some people view it as the illicit drug with the least risk. The carcinogenicity of delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) is not clear, but according to laboratory studies, it appears to have antitumor properties such as apoptosis as well as tumor-promoting properties such as limiting immune function and increasing reactive oxygen species. Marijuana tar contains similar carcinogens to tar from tobacco cigarettes, but each marijuana cigarette maybe more harmful than a tobacco cigarette since more tar is inhaled and retained when smoking marijuana. More molecular alterations have been observed in bronchial mucosa specimens of marijuana smokers compared to nonsmokers. Field cancerization may be occurring on the bronchial epithelium due to marijuana smoking exposure. Several case studies were suggestive of an association of marijuana smoking with head and neck cancers and oral lesions. However, in a cohort study with 8 years of follow-up, marijuana use was not associated with increased risks of all cancers or smoking-related cancers. Further epidemiological studies are necessary to confirm the association of marijuana smoking with head and neck cancers and to examine marijuana smoking as a risk factor for lung cancer. It will also be of interest to examine potential field cancerization of the upper aerodigestive tract by marijuana and to explore marijuana as a risk factor for oral premalignant lesions.
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Review, Tutorial

Dont kid yourself into thinking weed is harmless. It aint.
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uhh... did you even read the entire study you posted? they compared MJ smokers to non-smokers and the results they obtained weren't even conclusive. They draw a conclusion that none of the "supporting" information backs up.
 
er did u read it!

Marijuana tar contains similar carcinogens to tar from tobacco cigarettes, but each marijuana cigarette maybe more harmful than a tobacco cigarette since more tar is inhaled and retained when smoking marijuana.

More molecular alterations have been observed in bronchial mucosa specimens of marijuana smokers compared to nonsmokers. Field cancerization may be occurring on the bronchial epithelium due to marijuana smoking exposure. Several case studies were suggestive of an association of marijuana smoking with head and neck cancers and oral lesions.

Yes not all conclusive, but do you really need a study to tell you that breathing smoke is bad for you? Let alone what the chemcials in the reefer itself does.
 
i will say that smoking ANYTHING is not good for you...

but from you study it starts off stating that:
marijuana smoking was associated with an increased risk of head and neck cancer

yet provides no details from the study. how do we know that the study was done in a way that made the only variable between the test group and the control group the MJ smoking? i'm sure the control group was comprised of nonsmokers, but i wouldn't be surprised if the "control" group also smoked cigarettes.


anyways it follows with:
in a cohort study with 8 years of follow-up, marijuana use was not associated with increased risks of all cancers or smoking-related cancers. Further epidemiological studies are necessary to confirm the association of marijuana smoking with head and neck cancers and to examine marijuana smoking as a risk factor for lung cancer.


its like you cut and pasted pieces of a study together. there is no real "substance" to this study and IMO doesn't add much if anything to the collective sum of knowledge on the topic
 
This has to be one of the lamest threads I have seen in a while. A bunch of bros on an anabolic steroid board saying that weed is bad for you, ROFL!!
 
not really kronk the first 4 pages are pro-ganj! Only on page 5 did ashcroft's jerk-offs show up . . . The stoned folk got there early i guess . . . :D
 
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