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Is it just me or are newcomers being ingnored?

250 mg every 5 days.
start clomid 2 weeks after last shot

Clomid as per Huck's post a LONG time ago is below.

I don't know if this is what you were talking about....but anyway this was originally posted by HUCK.

Testosterone production begins at the hypothalamus,which scans blood levels of estrogens,androgens and other pertinent hormones.In a presence of low androgens and estrogens the hypothalamus will produce leutenizing-hormone-releasing-hormone(LHRH)which in turn stimulates the pituitary to produce leutenizing hormone(LH).LH then signals the leydig cells in the testicles to begin producing testosterone.Hence the Hypothalamic Pituitary Testicular Axis(more commonly referred to as H-P-T-A),as production is ran in that particular order.Now on to the clomid...

Clomid is a selective estrogen receptor modulator(much like nolvadex,only their binding capacities are more aggressive in seperate areas).Clomid stimulates L-H-R-H/LH production by binding to ESTROGEN receptors on the hypothalamus and pituitary,thus giving the illusion of a low presence of circulating estrogen.Note the key word here-ESTROGEN.CLOMID DOES NOT BIND ANDROGEN.Therefore,on a cycle of moderate to high amounts of ANDROGENS,clomid will have no effect whatsoever on endogenous testosterone production,as we are in a state of ANDROGENIC inhibition.It's post cycle,when blood levels of androgens begin to normalize and the typical estrogenic rebound/lag occurs,that clomid is able to re-initialize this process of testosterone production.Hope this clears up how clomid works and why to save it for post cycle,unless you're using it as an anti-estrogen...

How do we know when to administer clomid therapy,and how much should we use to get the desired effects?First you have to figure out the activity life/clearance time of your particular ester.They don't have to be completely cleared from your system,just enough that androgen levels are within normal to high normal ranges.For instance sust's longest acting and most potent ester,the undecanoate ester clears your system in roughly 3-4 weeks.So beginning clomid therapy 3 weeks after your last injection would be ideal.This is the pattern I would run my clomid in...

Day 1)300mgs...2 tabs every 4 hours or so.This will drive up blood levels of the drug for an immediate "therapeutic" response(one that would normally take many consecutive days of usage to be reached)and get the drug working aggressively towards re-initializing endogenous hormonal production.

Days 2-11)100mgs/day(bothtabs can be taken together now,as it's half life is so long it will make no difference...

Days 12-21)50mgs/day...

Day 22)DONE!
 
I agree, for a minimal cycle testoviron on it's own at least every 5 days. If you added deca it would be OK every 7. Clomid 2 weeks after your last shot and nolvadex at 10-20mg each day.
 
Zyglamail said:
califlower_ear, I would like to add some additional comments to your post, more specifically regarding your questions. They are simply too vague. First off no one will be able to tell you how much you will gain. There are way to many variables, some are known(but you didnt pass on, such as age, how long you have been training, how you train, how you eat etc etc) and some are unknown, such as gentics etc etc.

Also, such questions as:


And


lead us all to believe you have not done your homework. I have found that the this board is a great place and people here love to help, but the people who get the most help are those that have allready helped themselves.

Once again, if your post is worded in a way that shows people here you have some idea of what your doing your more likely to get help. When people come across as having no knowledge at all, answering questions becomes much more than simple answers and it turn into a lecture on AAS use etc since often times the asnwers contain more info that does not mean anything to potential new AAS users and therefor just requires more educating on the part of the people trying to help.

I'm glad you typed that all :)

Alot of vets get tired of answering questions that are very basic. Vague questions like "how much will I gain" are similar to asking what day/year you're going to die. No one knows for sure...
 
GaryWary what year am I going to die?

:FRlol: :FRlol:

Here is the simple formula GaryWary. First of all you have to figure out the half-life of GaryWary. Take that number and multiply it by 2. Works everytime.
 
Enigmaxxx7 said:


:FRlol: :FRlol:

Here is the simple formula GaryWary. First of all you have to figure out the half-life of GaryWary. Take that number and multiply it by 2. Works everytime.


Thanks for my morning LOL - ever considered a career as a stand up comic? :D
 
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