Is HCG crucial

[mr.enthate]

Is HCG a must have if your using hcgenerate during cycle I have everything on hand it'll be my first time using hcgenerate ad not HCG I wanna know if I must have it for my next cycle. 22 years old 240 17% body fat 5 years lifting on cycle ad post cycle meds are ; hcgenerate liquid stane clomid forma post cycle / unleaded bridge and other goodies

 

[oxymoron]

i've pulled off two pct's pretty successfully using hcgenerate. no issues whatsoever.

 

[joeblow12345]

You can use hcgenerate in place of hcg. As long as you have one of the two your good. Your nuts will be happy.

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[mr.enthate]

Ok thanks guys I just want to make sure everything goes as smooth as possible don't wanna make any mistakes used hcg last time worked wonders but have heard alot of good bout hcgenerate and if I can use almost all things natural that would be a plus

 

[JThomsen]

You can use hcgenerate in place of hcg. As long as you have one of the two your good. Your nuts will be happy.

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You can not replace with HCG with hcgenerate even though the name would suggest so. It simply doesn't do the same thing. You can get an entirely different effect using hcgenerate but HCG on cycle is the way to go. You can use hcgenerate as part of your PCT though.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I think HCG is overrated. In you use HCGen on cycle, don;t go crazy with the dosages , don;t stay on too long and start PCT right away, you won;t even need it. And most people use WAY, WAY, WAY too much. A single shot a week after your last shot to plump up the baslls is all you need. HCG doesn't "cure" anything -- it just gives a little jump start to recovery. Using more does not make you recover more.

 

[stevesmi]

You can not replace with HCG with hcgenerate even though the name would suggest so. It simply doesn't do the same thing. You can get an entirely different effect using hcgenerate but HCG on cycle is the way to go. You can use hcgenerate as part of your PCT though.

you have it reversed.

hcgenerate during cycle, and hcg as a kickstart to pct. neither need to be used in PCT.

the point is to go into pct without raisin nuts.. if you do that recovery will be faster

 

[joeblow12345]

You can not replace with HCG with hcgenerate even though the name would suggest so. It simply doesn't do the same thing. You can get an entirely different effect using hcgenerate but HCG on cycle is the way to go. You can use hcgenerate as part of your PCT though.

Its better to have both and use hcgen on cycle and hcg right before pct. But if you dont have hcg then the hcgen will still give you a nice boost before pct. I have done this myself to test out hcgenerates effectiveness, and it works. I would not reccomend something that I wouldnt do myself.

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[Wrongun]

HCG works and i always use on cycles these days

Wrongun!

 

[mr.enthate]

Thanks guys. Ya I want to just use hcgenerate to see its real effectiveness but don't want to hurt my recovery as its very important me

 

[JThomsen]

you have it reversed.

hcgenerate during cycle, and hcg as a kickstart to pct. neither need to be used in PCT.

the point is to go into pct without raisin nuts.. if you do that recovery will be faster

Well you are right about not going into PCT with raisin nuts and for this we use HCG. HCG is to be used on cycle to keep your testes producing testosterone and to preserve testicular sensitivity. There is actually a pretty good article about it on this site here. I would also recommend reading Dr. Swale’s input on HCG for AAS users here.

I see that you a have link to the manufactor of HCGen in your signature so I understand why you advocate HCGen over HCG but for the people reading this do yourself a favor and research it.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ if you re-read what i said I said to run hcg as a KICKSTART to pct. not during pct. I don't need to read your article to know what I'm doing. thanks though.

hcgenerate during cycle keeps your nuts plump, then hcg before PCT starts stimulating LH. what exactly are you disagreeing with?

 

[JThomsen]

I'm disagreeing with running a natty test booster (HCGen) instead of HCG during cycle. You don't want your nuts to shrink at all so it seems silly to wait untill the end of your your cycle to start running HCG. HCGen can not do what HCG can.

 

[badboybounce]

Hcg eventually will desensatize ur balls to it so wat steve is saying is reduce hcg usage not stop an use hcg at crucial point of cycle an hcgen is safer natural natty booster to use through cycle,no1 says hcgen is better than hcg but over usage of hcg will desensatize ur nuts so use spartingly an correctly to prevent this

 

[joeblow12345]

Hcg eventually will desensatize ur balls to it so wat steve is saying is reduce hcg usage not stop an use hcg at crucial point of cycle an hcgen is safer natural natty booster to use through cycle,no1 says hcgen is better than hcg but over usage of hcg will desensatize ur nuts so use spartingly an correctly to prevent this

This^^^^. Over stimulation of the hpta will cause it to shutdown. This is why using too much for too long will cause more harm, and why its a good choice to use hcgenerate on cycle.

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[stevesmi]

I'm disagreeing with running a natty test booster (HCGen) instead of HCG during cycle. You don't want your nuts to shrink at all so it seems silly to wait untill the end of your your cycle to start running HCG. HCGen can not do what HCG can.

hcgenerate is a natural way to help stimulate your nuts and it works, its the best supplement out there hands down. it also aids with cholesterol issues hence another good reason to run it during cycle

also HMG blows away hcg, however hcg is cheaper. I like to use hcgenerate during cycle once the balls start to shrink, hcg with some HMG as a kickstart to pct.

hcgenerate is much more convienient to use during cycle.. hcg will go bad after 30-45 days and if you don't refridgerate it which lots of guys will forget to do after using then you are fucked. hcgenerate won't go bad. plus if you travel or want things to stay on the down low popping some hcgenerate looks much better than injecting yourself with some clear stuff.

you should try new things, the problem these days with the old timers is they are stuck in 1975 and are unwilling to get with the modern times.. thats the same reason you see guys recommend nolva/clomid PCT.

 

[badboybounce]

Hahaha nolva a wouldnt giv ma donkey nolva an a fukin hate ma donkey

 

[Nighthawkk]

HCG has been proven by medical research and endocrinologists across the globe that in the treatment of moderate to severe hypogonadism over an extended period of time, and it can most certainly reverse the effects of reduced HPTA function in combination with SERM treatments. Case in point, this is an example of one of many public medical journal abstracts that you can find that will say the same:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2360778/pdf/postmedj00085-0047.pdf
http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/61/4/746.abstract

No oral herb has yet to be scientifically proven to reverse the effects of testicular atrophy and HPTA shutdown, although I believe the ingredients in something like an HCGenerate or similar can have invaluable benefits during PCT treatment due to it's ability to restore natural test production. I've had great success combining HCG with nolv or clomid, then stacking it with products containing bulgarian tribulus, fadogia, avena sativa, maca, muira puama, resveratrol, etc.

But will one herbal pill alone allow you to completely recover full from a heavy cycle? Absolutely not. That's like say a box of clomid will get you back to normal in 4 weeks...it's just not going to happen, unless you're either 17 years old or your cycle was 4 or 5 weeks. Recovery takes TIME (the most important and overlooked factor), and a very smart PCT protocol. Don't let anyone tell you any different.

 

[madbro]

^^^ if you re-read what i said I said to run hcg as a KICKSTART to pct. not during pct. I don't need to read your article to know what I'm doing. thanks though.

hcgenerate during cycle keeps your nuts plump, then hcg before PCT starts stimulating LH. what exactly are you disagreeing with?

Since when HCG stimulates LH??
HCG does completely the opposite it stimulates the leyding cells in the testicles and suppresses natural LH production..

It simulates LH.. def not stimulates...

 

[nickb86]

ok so for a 500mg 12 week test cycle, providing i ran the HCgenerate and forma stanzol during cycle would i need HCG to kick start the pct afterwards ?
Also how long would one wait after last pin or before pct started to use the HCG ?
thanks...

 

[joeblow12345]

ok so for a 500mg 12 week test cycle, providing i ran the HCgenerate and forma stanzol during cycle would i need HCG to kick start the pct afterwards ?
Also how long would one wait after last pin or before pct started to use the HCG ?
thanks...

Run the hcgen during cycle and the last week of the cycle start the hcg and run it through the first week of pct then stop.

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[nickb86]

ok nice one mate cheers 4 the help

so i would run hcgenerate from week 4 or 5 through to week 12,

then start the hcg week 12 and run that into week 15 (e.g start the pct meds 2 weeks after last sust pin)

does that sound ok seems like quite alot of hcg ?

I may have misread the above post as no punctuation, in that you either reccomened hcgenerate during cycle or during and including last week of cycle ? (not trying to be difficult) and agin is the hcg run just 4 the 1st week of pct or from the last week of cycle into pct (3 weeks)
thanks again bud just hard to decipher....

 

[Nelson Montana]

ok nice one mate cheers 4 the help

so i would run hcgenerate from week 4 or 5 through to week 12,

then start the hcg week 12 and run that into week 15 (e.g start the pct meds 2 weeks after last sust pin)

does that sound ok seems like quite alot of hcg ?

I may have misread the above post as no punctuation, in that you either reccomened hcgenerate during cycle or during and including last week of cycle ? (not trying to be difficult) and agin is the hcg run just 4 the 1st week of pct or from the last week of cycle into pct (3 weeks)
thanks again bud just hard to decipher....

That is correct. And start the UNLEASHED and POCT-CYCLE one week after the last pin and continue for 2 months for full recovery. USe BRIDGE after that to maintain gains. and maximize progress while off.