Is anyone actually faithful anymore?

[jenscats5]

I agree, but from my experience and especially from what I've seen with my friends and other people is that women stop all that when they get married.

But the man is still expected to be this "perfect" clone combination of every romantic comedy the woman has ever seen since she was a little girl.

And take a look at what a "romantic comedy" teaches a woman.

Basicly the man jumps through 7000 hoops, hes romantic, loving giving etc,etc. and all the woman does is sit back and receive all this from him.

you never see the opposite where the woman does all of this for the man.

Just because your friends told you XYZ about their relationships doesn't make it the 100% absolute......there are 3 sides to every story - his, hers & the truth.....

Perception is alot.....

 

[heatherrae]

No, I didn't cheat on my ex, but he did on me. Some people are just jerks.

 

[jenscats5]

yep.

key word being "ENTITLED"

nobody is "entitled" to anything.

That's the major flaw in american women, they truly think the world revolves around them and that men should jump through hoops and do everything for them that they desire and MAYBE....they will occasionally throw them a bone(sex) as a reward.

Fuck that shit, that's called

"QUID PRO QUO - Lat. 'what for what' or 'something for something.' The concept of getting something of value in return for giving something of value. For a contract to be binding, it usually must involve the exchange of something of value."

Sounds like a hooker to me.

Uhhhhhhhh, I find the MAJORITY of people in GENERAL act this way - they are in their own little world which revolves around them.....

They do stuff with no regards to others & how it effects others......it's pretty much America in general these days......

I don't know ANY women who behave this way.....maybe I'm too old (I'm 37) to see it....

 

[HiDnGoD]

man, I think if sex wasnt such a control issue and power issue for guys this wouldnt be such a hot button subject.

For me, sex has always been an extension of an already established firm emotional connection. It only adds a new dynamic aspect to the relationship. I like what Bikinimom posts about her husband doign for her. I enjoy serving others like that. I'd rather have a girl I'm totally in love with be puddy in my hands because I mind fuck her all day long with everything nice I do for her to make her feel that connection than to just concentrate on how many times I can ram her fuck hole.

OK, what about the guy who does all that & she still doesn't want to have sex with him. It's not about "ramming the fuckhole", it's about the whole "making love" experience. All 3 minutes of it.

In reality, everyone is selfish, to an extent. Very few people do things for completely altruistic reasons. For instance, my wife. I do many things for her. I love her dearly & I love for her to be happy & comfortable. But I do these things as much for myself, as for her. The way she makes me feel, they way I feel when I do things for her, & the way I would feel if I lost her.

 

[seaking420]

So no one here on ef cheats it seems like....................yeah right. IF 48% of marriages ends in divorse, most of these divorses are because of affairs. And thats that its people that are married. What I mean by this is that if your married, it makes it more difficult to cheat because of the consequences. If you get divorsed you usually get screwed out of alot of money(mostly men) so it makes cheating more complex. As opose to if your dating someone and cheat then you just break up and no big deal.
I find it hard to believe no one on here has cheated. People are scared to admit it so they dont get scrutinized, or your SO knows your on this forum and reads your posts so you dont want them to know.
I'm not saying everyone cheats, but alot do. If you look at the 48% divorse rate, these are people that got caught, now add up the people who have cheated and not been caught, or have been caught and are still married.

He makes love to me all day long.... not in the bedroom but from the moment he wakes and makes me my coffee and breakfast before he leaves for the office leaving me sleep till I want to wake, every time he opens the door for me (I havent opened a door since I met him), and every time he tells me how beautiful I am even though we can both see as clear as day that that is hardly the case.

Not for nothing but you just gave an ex of how the man does something for you. Why is he making you coffee and breakfast every day and then goes to work while your still in bed sleeping. Shouldnt you be doing that for him since he's going out to work and your staying home. Sounds like its one sided to me.

 

[alien amp pharm]

It's called selfishness and lack of morals.

Men either cheat because it's somehow cool to bang random chicks, or the wife is being a bitch &/or withholding sex. (Seen it many times personally)

Women cheat because they love the attention and the excitement of it.

I have no respect for anyone who cheats.

 

[cindylou]

people who dont love eachother are getting married.

Thats why the divorce rate is so high.

When you love someone you care more about them than yourself. Who cares what they do to you? If you always look at what you can get out of a relationship then you will always be dissapointed.

If you give all the love you have to your SO and expect nothing in return ; that is love.

By the way women are not the only ones who withhold sex.

There are tons of women out there in sexless marriages and they are not the ones withholding...........

okay my .02!

 

[alien amp pharm]

When you love someone you care more about them than yourself. Who cares what they do to you? If you always look at what you can get out of a relationship then you will always be dissapointed.

Nah, love fades over time.

The grass is greener on the other side is what happens then. People want to experience new and different 'pastures'. That is the peoblem.

There are tons of women out there in sexless marriages and they are not the ones withholding...........

That is misleading. "Tons" could be several women, or 1 of Smurfy.

 

[HiDnGoD]

Nah, love fades over time.

The grass is greener on the other side is what happens then. People want to experience new and different 'pastures'. That is the peoblem.

That is misleading. "Tons" could be several women, or 1 of Smurfy.

If people only new. Marriage is work. It sometimes hurts, & it sometimes sucks. But if you work at it, it can be batter than you ever imagined.
Love. A very misunderstood word. When I got married, my love was almost unconditional. My love now is almost unconditional (if you say your love is unconditional, you're only fooling yourself). The love I felt when I got married is different than the love I feel now. If someone had been able to explain this "now" love to me, back then, I wouldn't have been able to comprehend.

 

[digimon7068]

Nah, love fades over time.

The grass is greener on the other side is what happens then. People want to experience new and different 'pastures'. That is the peoblem.

been faithful for 17+ years. . .best ones of my life. . .something truly satisfying about commitment (at least for me). . .also, we still get bizzy 3 to 5 times per week