iPhones in Canada

[billfred]

Is this really the first chance for Canadians to have iPhones and all their services or are they already penetrating the market with the unlocked phones eh??

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080429/to235.html?.v=67

 

[billfred]

Come on canuks - give us some scoop. I own AAPL shares and would appreciate some insight.

Thanks in advance!!

 

[wootoom]

Rogers sucks though

 

[Razorguns]

IPhone is really hurting down here. It was trumped to be a new revolution - but honestly, it's flopped. Apple is even lowering itself to fudge sales numbers in press releases.

Sky high phone bills didn't help.

r

 

[billfred]

IPhone is really hurting down here. It was trumped to be a new revolution - but honestly, it's flopped. Apple is even lowering itself to fudge sales numbers in press releases.

Sky high phone bills didn't help.

r

Hurting who and where?? Things are everywhere and capturing most of the smartphone market growth.

AT&T has a $25 dollar unlimited data so I can't really see how sky high phone bills are too much of an issue.

 

[billfred]

Rogers sucks though

That is too bad - who is the best provider?

 

[Razorguns]

Hurting who and where?? Things are everywhere and capturing most of the smartphone market growth.

AT&T has a $25 dollar unlimited data so I can't really see how sky high phone bills are too much of an issue.

here you go sir:

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080123-the-truth-about-the-iphones-sales-numbers.html

r

 

[billfred]

here you go sir:

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080123-the-truth-about-the-iphones-sales-numbers.html

r

There have been lots of reports like that especially coming from the analyst from Bernstein who has had a sale on AAPL for about 6 months. Problem is actual earning numbers keep proving the projections wrong.

Europe sales are slowing because they are waiting for 3G. 3rd world sales of unlocked phones are screwing up the numbers as well. Every taxi driver and stripper in from Africa to Asia is dying to get their hands on an iPhone.

 

[rjl296]

they have unlocked phones, but i rarely see one up here
i think this will help take off, id have gotten one b4 now , but im too lazy to unlock them

 

[the_alcatraz]

Rogers just got a contract I believe to get iphones to Canada.

 

[Razorguns]

There have been lots of reports like that especially coming from the analyst from Bernstein who has had a sale on AAPL for about 6 months. Problem is actual earning numbers keep proving the projections wrong.

Europe sales are slowing because they are waiting for 3G. 3rd world sales of unlocked phones are screwing up the numbers as well. Every taxi driver and stripper in from Africa to Asia is dying to get their hands on an iPhone.

I could post up more articles, but the end question always comes down to:

Market Penetration.

This is easy to calculate. Do it on your own. I can easily count all those who have ipods around me. I know maybe 1 iphone owner for like every 50 cell phone owners around me. I'm sure it's similar around you too (Unless you live in sunnyvale, ca).

Plus Iphone is a loss for Apple btw. The real revenue is in the high cell phone prices. So if people want those high bills - hey, go ahead.

r

 

[manny78]

Who gives a fuck about the iPhone ? Rogers sucks balls big time and their phones are locked anyway. iPhone = MySpace kids.

 

[billfred]

I could post up more articles, but the end question always comes down to:

Market Penetration.

This is easy to calculate. Do it on your own. I can easily count all those who have ipods around me. I know maybe 1 iphone owner for like every 50 cell phone owners around me. I'm sure it's similar around you too (Unless you live in sunnyvale, ca).

Plus Iphone is a loss for Apple btw. The real revenue is in the high cell phone prices. So if people want those high bills - hey, go ahead.

r

YEah - they have captured 20% of the smartphone market in less than 1 yrs time. That is the only penetration number you will need.

 

[manny78]

Seriously I wish I was 18yr old again so I could understand all this hype srurrounding the iPhone....

 

[billfred]

Seriously I wish I was 18yr old again so I could understand all this hype srurrounding the iPhone....

Have you used one? They are pretty cool. iTouch as well.

 

[manny78]

Have you used one? They are pretty cool. iTouch as well.

Yes and seriously I didnt do shit to me. My Blackberry 8830 does everything it does and more (exchange server, works on CDMA and GSM networks) ...... and costed 1/3. Again, I could see the "cool factor" for kids in need for approval from peers but that aint my case lol

 

[GUARDIAN]

i have only seen one around these parts. it is a neat concept and all but many people already flocked to get video ipods b4 the iphone. it would be a waste for me.

 

[velvett]

I love my iphone and when I added it to my current ATT service it was an additional $20 a month which is actually A LOT less then it would have been to switch to a Blackberry (which was the same $$ as the iphone).

 

[billfred]

Yes and seriously I didnt do shit to me. My Blackberry 8830 does everything it does and more (exchange server, works on CDMA and GSM networks) ...... and costed 1/3. Again, I could see the "cool factor" for kids in need for approval from peers but that aint my case lol

I have used blackberry for about 4 yrs now. Got my wife the iPhone and am always playing on it when home. Can't wait for the 3g and exchange - I will be migrating that direction.

 

[manny78]

I love my iphone and when I added it to my current ATT service it was an additional $20 a month which is actually A LOT less then it would have been to switch to a Blackberry (which was the same $$ as the iphone).

Really ? The iPhone is like $400 for the 8GB version through ATT I believe. You can get a Blackberry (Pearl, Curve, 8830) for under $150. Must be cause ATT is trying to push their iPhone sales big time...

 

[velvett]

Really ? The iPhone is like $400 for the 8GB version through ATT I believe. You can get a Blackberry (Pearl, Curve, 8830) for under $150. Must be cause ATT is trying to push their iPhone sales big time...

No push from ATT at all when I got my phone (last november), I don't even remember seeing it on their website as phones to purchase at that time.

$399 for a Curve
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phones/pda-phones-smartphones.jsp

 

[the_alcatraz]

Yes and seriously I didnt do shit to me. My Blackberry 8830 does everything it does and more (exchange server, works on CDMA and GSM networks) ...... and costed 1/3. Again, I could see the "cool factor" for kids in need for approval from peers but that aint my case lol

your blackberry does not have WiFi and you can only use the internet if you have a data plan, meaning extra money. The iPhone has WiFi and you can connect to the internet with no extra charge if you have WiFi access.

It has cool camera options. Very user friendly. Huge screen; ideal for watching movies and viewing pictures. Very sleek looking. Low price, relatively to its options.

What's not to like?

 

[manny78]

your blackberry does not have WiFi and you can only use the internet if you have a data plan, meaning extra money. The iPhone has WiFi and you can connect to the internet with no extra charge if you have WiFi access.

It has cool camera options. Very user friendly. Huge screen; ideal for watching movies and viewing pictures. Very sleek looking. Low price, relatively to its options.

What's not to like?

I have unlimited net for my Blackberry so I can actually use it anywhere and not only through a free wi-Fi zone. No need for a camera (other Blackberrys have that gadget). My screen is big enough for what I do and with the removable micro-SD (rather than fixed memory) I can stock pics and vids just like an iPhone. Anything bigger I just use my laptop

As I said before, I dont buy a phone for its cool factor. I needed something that could work on any network and came unlocked from the factory with exchange server capabilities none of these being offered by the iPhone. Got all that for almost $250 including the SD card.

 

[manny78]

Btw knowing how Rogers do business, the iPhone will most likely cost around $400 with a 3 years contract and the SIM card locked (as with any of their cellphone)...