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Ipamorelin / modGRF

Pollo919

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Hi everyone

I´m thinking about this cycle with Ipamorelin / modGRF

Day 1-3: 50/50mcg pre-bed.
Day 4-6: 50/50mcg morning and pre-bed.
Day 7-9: 50/50mcg morning, PWO og pre-bed.
Day 10-12: 75/75mcg morning, PWO and pre-bed.
Day 13->: 100/100mcg morning, PWO and pre-bed.

Anyone with experience with this or any guidelines?
 
Hi everyone

I´m thinking about this cycle with Ipamorelin / modGRF

Day 1-3: 50/50mcg pre-bed.
Day 4-6: 50/50mcg morning and pre-bed.
Day 7-9: 50/50mcg morning, PWO og pre-bed.
Day 10-12: 75/75mcg morning, PWO and pre-bed.
Day 13->: 100/100mcg morning, PWO and pre-bed.

Anyone with experience with this or any guidelines?
not sure its necessary to ramp the dose...someone with more experience with peptides will chime in
 
Do at least a 100mcgs of each. U can up the ipa if u want, but I would leave the grf at 100. I'm not sure would see any results from doses that low of ipamorelin. It's the least effective of giving a gh pulse. But it can be more effective the more u use. I've been using the ipa/ grf for around a month. It's ok. Knees are feeling better. Have other health issues too, I always felt bad. Now I feel good again.
 
How do you guys ensure you have quality products on hand?

Roids is pretty easy to know the HG brand but peptides is another issue.

I live in Europe.
 
Sometimes from the Mod grf I get a little flushed. Slight increase in heart rate. May be a little sweat. You will feel nothing from the Ipamorelin. If you ordered from a sponsor on this board, it is legit.
 
Hi everyone

I´m thinking about this cycle with Ipamorelin / modGRF

Day 1-3: 50/50mcg pre-bed.
Day 4-6: 50/50mcg morning and pre-bed.
Day 7-9: 50/50mcg morning, PWO og pre-bed.
Day 10-12: 75/75mcg morning, PWO and pre-bed.
Day 13->: 100/100mcg morning, PWO and pre-bed.

Anyone with experience with this or any guidelines?

Use 100mcg of each...2-3x per day.
 
100mcg of each three times per day. You should dose 30-60 minutes on both sides of a meal. Dose first thing in the am, pwo, then again before bed.

I can only speak for the peps from our sponsors and they are legit.
 
<a href="http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/ipamorelin" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.elitefitness.com/b2/peptides/ipamorelin.jpg" alt="Ipamorelin" width="133" height="240" hspace="10" align="right" /><strong>Ipamorelin</strong></a> is a fascinating new muscle building discovery that is getting a lot of attention in the bodybuilding world. Like the <a href="http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/hgh-ghrh-ghrp" target="_blank"><strong>GHRP-6</strong></a> peptide (growth hormone releasing hexapeptide), it is a synthetic peptide that has powerful Growth Hormone releasing properties. And these GH releasing properties are what is of interest to athletes and bodybuilders since they can make a tremendous difference in the amount of muscle you can grow and how quickly you burn fat. Read all about <a href="http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/ipamorelin" target="_blank"><strong>Ipamorelin</strong></a>.
 
I told yall a long time ago that this would be taking off,and that it was the wave of the future!
 
Re: Ipamorelin / modGRF + Thymosin Beta 4 (TB-500)

I´m thinking about this cycle with Ipamorelin / modGRF

Anyone with experience with this or any guidelines?

Dosing Ipamorelin higher along with occasional TB4 injections has helped my strategy greatly in 2012
 
its not a bad idea to ramp up the dose to see how you respond. Im not talking over weeks though. Just do 50/50 day 1, 75/75 day 2, 100/100 day 3. I hit myself with 100/100 day one of GHRP-2 and CJC 1295 and apparently I am super sensitive cause it was a bad idea. palpitations(not just for a minute or two), head pressure that took 3 days to go away.
I personally cant mix GHRP and cjc but I can take both seperatley.
if you are 200lb + I wouldnt hesitate to go 150mcg maybe 200mcg 2xed.
150mcg 2x ed is not a waste. I noticed a big difference personally.
The only reason I stopped recently is that it started messing with my blood sugar at various times during the day.
Dont be irresponsible.....get yourself a glucose tester and keep an eye on your blood sugar.
 
burnthiscorpse, I have been researching Ipamorelin + Mod grf(1-29). I'm trying to find out more info on how this effects blood sugar. some people say GHRP2/6 makes them hypo,but apparently it is just a feeling of being hypo,& not actually a hypo state. I'm trying to find out as much as I can on this,but it seems to be a bit of a grey area.

how did the ipam/mod grf make you feel? I assume as you stopped using them it wasn't a good reaction you had from the peps.

thanks in advance for any reply'
Jac.
 
burnthiscorpse, I have been researching Ipamorelin + Mod grf(1-29). I'm trying to find out more info on how this effects blood sugar. some people say GHRP2/6 makes them hypo,but apparently it is just a feeling of being hypo,& not actually a hypo state. I'm trying to find out as much as I can on this,but it seems to be a bit of a grey area.

how did the ipam/mod grf make you feel? I assume as you stopped using them it wasn't a good reaction you had from the peps.

thanks in advance for any reply'
Jac.

I used GHRP-2 and CJC 1295 no dac (or mod grf). I cannot use them together gives me unpleasant head pressure. This is a side effect not all people get.

Ghrp-2 worked as insulin does in the first few days of using it. I monitored my blood sugar at 5 minute intervale starting 20 minutes post injection to find when exactly the GH spike occours. 35 minutes was it for me. My blood sugar would go from a normal 85-90 and start dropping. Sometimes i felt the beginnings of hypo sometimes I didnt. But my blood sugar would drop down into the 70's and I would eat simple carbs and some complex too.
This was only in the beginning. You need a glucose monitor. IMHO it would be irresponsible not to have one while using peptides.
 
I used GHRP-2 and CJC 1295 no dac (or mod grf). I cannot use them together gives me unpleasant head pressure. This is a side effect not all people get.

Ghrp-2 worked as insulin does in the first few days of using it. I monitored my blood sugar at 5 minute intervale starting 20 minutes post injection to find when exactly the GH spike occours. 35 minutes was it for me. My blood sugar would go from a normal 85-90 and start dropping. Sometimes i felt the beginnings of hypo sometimes I didnt. But my blood sugar would drop down into the 70's and I would eat simple carbs and some complex too.
This was only in the beginning. You need a glucose monitor. IMHO it would be irresponsible not to have one while using peptides.

Thanks,some good info there,I will definitely use a glucose monitor along with any peps.
So did you carry on using the peptides?
I know that natural GH spikes occur when BG is low but I would like to have more of an understanding on why/how the peptides & GHRH cause the low blood sugar.
Jac.
 
hello,
can I use only ipamorelin without mod grf? can I have benefits only from ipamorelin? I'm a female and I would like to take it 3x 100mcg
 
Here is a short article I wrote on Ipamorelin...

Ipamorelin

Ipamorelin is a growth hormone releasing peptide. It stimulates the body to release more human growth hormone and igf-1. Increases in gh and igf-1 can result in many benefits including:

- Builds Lean Tissue
- Lowers Body Fat
- Improved Recovery from training
- anti aging
- Improves Mood and Sleep Patterns

Ipamorelin is similar to other GHRP's such as GHRP-2 and GHRP-6. However Ipamorelin does not cause sudden spikes in prolactin or cortisol like GHRP-2 and GHRP-6 can do. Both of those hormones when elevated can cause negative side effects. Cortisol is a steroid hormone that is released when stressed and can be very catabolic. Prolactin counteracts the effect of dopamine, which is responsible for sexual arousal. Elevated prolactin can cause a variety of unwanted physical and psychological effects.

Raun K et al. (1998) highlighted ipamorelin's beneficial effects over the other ghrp's. In pentobarbital anaesthetised rats, ipamorelin released GH with a potency and efficacy comparable to GHRP-6. In conscious swine, gh release after ipamorelin injection was high and again vey similar to GHRP6. In the same study GHRP-2 displayed higher potency but lower efficacy. The specificity for GH release was studied in swine. They found none of the GH secretagogues tested affected FSH, LH, PRL or TSH plasma levels. Administration of both GHRP-6 and GHRP-2 resulted in increased plasma levels of ACTH and cortisol. Very surprisingly, ipamorelin did not release ACTH or cortisol in levels significantly different from those observed following GHRH stimulation. This lack of effect on ACTH and cortisol plasma levels was evident even when extremely high doses of were used. Ipamorelin was the first GHRP-receptor agonist with a selectivity for GH release similar to that displayed by GHRH.

A pharmacological profiling using GHRP and growth hormone-releasing hormone (GHRH) antagonists clearly demonstrated that ipamorelin, like GHRP-6, stimulates GH release via a GHRP-like receptor. However ipameolin is slow in its delivery unlike GHRP’s which spike GH levels at a faster rate. This another notable difference when researching ghrp's. Moreover it has been shown that Ipamorelin is able to exert a dynamic control effect on the somatotroph population and on GH hormone content (Jim&amp;eacute;nez-Reina L et al. 2002).

A variety of promising effects have been displayed when ipamorelin has been studied. Adeghate E et al. (2004) examined the effect ipamorelin had on insulin secretion from pancreatic tissue fragments of normal and diabetic rats. Ipamorelin evoked significant (p<0.04) increases in insulin secretion from the pancreas of normal and diabetic rats. It was shown that ipamorelin stimulates insulin release through the calcium channel and the adrenergic receptor pathways.

Nitrogen balance is very important in humans. A positive value is often found during periods of growth, tissue repair or pregnancy. This means that the intake of nitrogen into the body is greater than the loss of nitrogen from the body, so there is an increase in the total body pool of protein. A negative value can be associated with burns, fevers, wasting diseases and other serious injuries and during periods of fasting. This means that the amount of nitrogen excreted from the body is greater than the amount of nitrogen ingested. Aagaard NK et al. (2009) studied the metabolic effects of Ipamorelin on selected hepatic measures of alpha-amino-nitrogen conversion during steroid-induced catabolism. Prednisolone was the steroid used to induce this catabolism. In prednisolone treated rats ipamorelin reduced CUNS by 20% (p<0.05), decreased the expression of urea cycle enzymes, neutralised N-balance, and normalized or improved organ N-contents. Therefore accelerated nitrogen wasting in the liver and other organs caused by prednisolone treatment was counteracted by treatment with Ipamorelin.

Ipamorelin is ideal for pre bed dosing due to it's long active life and minimal effect on hunger levels. When other GHRP's are used such as GHRP 2/6 they can cause a sudden increase in appetite which can be awkward pre bed. Doses as little as 200mcg are highly effective but I feel Ipamorelin truly shines when you boom dose it. I have gone up to as much as 1mg pre bed and that was incredible. Although for most a dose of 500mcg would be more than enough when combined with a GHRH. My favourite peptide cycle to date has been CJC-1295 DAC with GHRP-2 through the day. Then a high dose of Ipam used pre bed.

Finally just want to list what I feel is a key advantage ipamorelin has over GH injections in a research environment. Unlike GH injections it does not shut down the body’s natural production of this hormone, it just enhances it. In the long run this is a huge factor and I feel future studies will highlight the importance of this in relation to health.

References

1. Aagaard NK, Gr&amp;oslash;fte T, Greisen J, Malml&amp;ouml;f K, Johansen PB, Gr&amp;oslash;nbaek H, &amp;Oslash;rskov H, Tygstrup N, Vilstrup H (2009) Growth hormone and growth hormone secretagogue effects on nitrogen balance and urea synthesis in steroid treated rats. PMID: 19231263 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
2. Adeghate E, Ponery AS (2004) Mechanism of ipamorelin-evoked insulin release from the pancreas of normal and diabetic rats. PMID: 15665799 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
3. Raun K, Hansen BS, Johansen NL, Th&amp;oslash;gersen H, Madsen K, Ankersen M, Andersen PH (1998) Ipamorelin, the first selective growth hormone secretagogue. PMID: 9849822 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
4. Jim&amp;eacute;nez-Reina L, Ca&amp;ntilde;ete R, de la Torre MJ, Bernal G (2002) Influence of chronic treatment with the growth hormone secretagogue Ipamorelin, in young female rats: somatotroph response in vitro. PMID: 12168778 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
 
As I mentioned in the article Ipamorelin truly shines in higher doses. It is not very cost effective like the other GHRP's so that's why I usually recommend using a short acting ghrp (such as ghrp2 or hexarelin) through the day then Ipam in one large dose pre bed. It has a long active life so if you just want to stick with the Ipam (and cjc) you could do 3 injs per day. But personally I think it is easier doing 2 injs (am and pm). I would rather dose it higher twice then lower 3 times too.

Anywhere from 200mcg and above will be highly effective. 100mcg cjc no dac will be more than enough. You could do 333mcg per inj so 1 vial would last 3 days if dosing 2 times. You could do that by simply adding 0.6ml bac water and inj 0.1ml each time (if you have 2mg ipam vial of course).

If guys just use it pre bed then 500mcg is incredible and I fully recommend it for a high and long lasting gh release.
 
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