Intro and first cycle

[RussianBro]

how high is your bf%? for that much of gear depends on your bf as well (and that much dbol with that gear)...

 

[Nelson Montana]

I think you've been reading these boards for too long.

If you're a first timer in his 20's and can't grow on 25mgs of D-bol a day, YOU SUCK AS A BODYBUILDER.

Plain and simple.

 

[rstitan53]

way tooo much test and d bol dude...


at the most i would say 30mg of dbol ifnot 25 a day... and also u only need 500mg of test a week and could get away with 400mg for a 1st cycle... u odnt need to go over board

 

[Texas Ranger]

I have to agree with, Nelson and the rest of the guys. Way TOO high, bro! Drop the EQ because it's not needed. Just do Test@400-500mgs for 8-10 weeks and Dbol@25mgs a day for the first 5 weeks. Run Arimidex/Liquidex at .5mgs EOD throughout and post cycle. Nice and simple.

 

[gilly6993]

All chime in and also say to much to fast but it sounds like you're sticking to these dosages...IMO you're headed for trouble in the future in regards to what you'll need to take to grow....keep your first cycle simple....2 drugs and low to moderate dosages....what's the rush?

 

[General Maximus]

If you are going to wait two weeks more, do more research before you decide on how much. If you take too much, you could be just wasting your money. Start a little slower. My first cycle consisted of 2, 25 mg pills of Reforvit DBol per day for eight weeks. Nothing else. My gains were incredible when eating 5000 cal's a day with 500-600 grams of protein. I was actually pretty lucky, I held onto most of my gains. If you decide to do what you posted and add Fina into the mix, you might do some serious damage to your liver. Think ALA and Milk Thistle.

 

[Big Jax]

Thanks for all the replies.

gilly- my whole thing is, I am not really planning on doing multiple cycles. I intend to do this one bulking cycle and then one cycle in spring to cut down. As this first cycle will be my only one, I don't want to start at a lower dosage with the intent of simply doing more next time.

All - everyone is saying that the dosages are too high...what are the negatives that you would predict from the amounts i suggest?

Nelson - what?

 

[RussianBro]

I am not really planning on doing multiple cycles. I intend to do this one bulking cycle and then one cycle in spring to cut down.

that's what I was saying a LONG time ago... just one cycle... sure... I even remember saying - just to reach my goal and I'm done. well, my goal was already extended numerous times
good luck to you...

 

[bmit]

Well don't know what else to say as i agree with EVERYONE else. You probably should listen and do EQ @400 and Test @ 500, dbol with this is unneccessary for a first cycle. By the way I said I would only do one cyc too and I'm already planning my fourth.

 

[Nelson Montana]

When I said 25ms of D-bol , I meant ONLY 25 mgs of D-bol.

I know that's hard for you (and many others) to comprehend, but the dosages people are recommending are higher than what guys like Arnold and Sergio took in their heydey. And you ain't Arnold Or Sergio.

A real bodybuilder learns how to fight for every ounce of muscle he can get. After you reach your genetic max, then a lttle juice can get you over the hump. If you knew what you were doing, you could put on 5 solid pounds from 200mgs a week for four weeks of Primo and nothing else. Do you know how long it would take to put on 5 pounds naturally?
But hey, what do I know? Everybody wants to be big NOW, even if it means being a formless blob. Big. BiG. BIG!!! You sound like you have a lot to learn. But I'm sure your mind is made up and you're going to do whatever you want anyway.